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Originally posted by granny
What about those of us who've leveled up BG alts since /level but without using /level? (Wanted to auto-train stealth)
your just silly?
your just silly?
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etaew
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come caledonia.. no zerging here.. the ratio at the moment is albs 50% hibs 50% mids 0% tis good
tis good
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/flex
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granny
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Originally posted by ormorof
your just silly?
I've got a necro to PL them up. Doesn't take long
(ps. it's you're )
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stafford
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Re: Re: Friging boring frigging albs
sod the nap we need 300ml of ribena stat !
sod the nap we need 300ml of ribena stat !
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omg you're that Troll that is always with that dwarf running back and forth in front of apk .. I love you guys (you pwned Ssurs and Laraia ... my current thid chars several times)
Oh and you for president for the rest of that post
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granny
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If you are who I think you are you've been TRIO'ing not duo'ing, you carelessly ommited to mention you usually have a BD with you too
Rest of your post was ok though, well done
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DISCLAIMER: MY EXTENSIVE USE OF PUNCTUATION MAY CAUSE YOU TO BURST OLLOL!
I dunno, I'm seriously beginning to think that Mids enjoy sitting there and being farmed. They seem to know exactly what the problem is - that they are outnumbered - but at that point in their thought-processes all rational brain-activity seems to stop.
I join the CG and, admist the cries of "res plz" from the various, blue-con shadowblades, there is a lot of "talk" (and by "talk" I mean "moaning" and "swearing") about how many Albs there are. Now, to be fair, there was a boat-load of Albs. At one point I'm pretty sure I got killed by FOUR FULL GROUPS OF ALBS, but I digress.
So anyway I'm in the CG whilst everybody is moaning and feeling all-together very annoyed. I mentioned once, briefly, that maybe the Mids should ignore the Albs - but, ironically, it was me that was ignored! Haha! How about THAT for a big, table-turning "fuck you", Renormalization? HOW ABOUT THAT?
Well, you see, the Mids had a better way of dealing with the Alb zerg. Were they going to go around them and flank them from the sides? Nope! Maybe.. Maybe they were going to go completely around them? Some guys attack them from behind whilst the Mids still at MPK charge them from the front? Haha, no, don't be silly. Hey - maybe they were going to leave MPK and simply head off to unexplored territory; for example, the fabled "HPK"? No. No, you see, the Mids had a much better, totally-foolproof plan to throw into action. It was brilliant. The Mids were going to walk straight in to the albs.. ONE OR TWO AT A TIME!
I dunno, I just.. I don't like people very much, sometimes.
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Mad props, yo, to granny and Shanaia, who seem to know who I am! Give me a hug, sometime, and we can dance if you're brave enough to destealth! Which you aren't, you cowardly, cowardly stealther you, haha! (I kid, I kid).
I dunno, I'm seriously beginning to think that Mids enjoy sitting there and being farmed. They seem to know exactly what the problem is - that they are outnumbered - but at that point in their thought-processes all rational brain-activity seems to stop.
I join the CG and, admist the cries of "res plz" from the various, blue-con shadowblades, there is a lot of "talk" (and by "talk" I mean "moaning" and "swearing") about how many Albs there are. Now, to be fair, there was a boat-load of Albs. At one point I'm pretty sure I got killed by FOUR FULL GROUPS OF ALBS, but I digress.
So anyway I'm in the CG whilst everybody is moaning and feeling all-together very annoyed. I mentioned once, briefly, that maybe the Mids should ignore the Albs - but, ironically, it was me that was ignored! Haha! How about THAT for a big, table-turning "fuck you", Renormalization? HOW ABOUT THAT?
Well, you see, the Mids had a better way of dealing with the Alb zerg. Were they going to go around them and flank them from the sides? Nope! Maybe.. Maybe they were going to go completely around them? Some guys attack them from behind whilst the Mids still at MPK charge them from the front? Haha, no, don't be silly. Hey - maybe they were going to leave MPK and simply head off to unexplored territory; for example, the fabled "HPK"? No. No, you see, the Mids had a much better, totally-foolproof plan to throw into action. It was brilliant. The Mids were going to walk straight in to the albs.. ONE OR TWO AT A TIME!
I dunno, I just.. I don't like people very much, sometimes.
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Mad props, yo, to granny and Shanaia, who seem to know who I am! Give me a hug, sometime, and we can dance if you're brave enough to destealth! Which you aren't, you cowardly, cowardly stealther you, haha! (I kid, I kid).
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kragh
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Had some good fights tonight.. especially with Whirly and that inconnu sorc(who´s name I cannot seem to remember). Man I hate that aoe mezz, and damn you kickass ;-D hope to meet such worthy oponents soon again.
I don´t know if it was because mb was overflooded by albs alot, but we seemed to run into the zerg on many "irregular" places.. is it just me or have the zerglings finally discovered the domains beyond the rivers at mb?
Seriously though, when I find 4fg albs at mb I just can´t help to wonder.. I mean there´s so much more fun in roaming with your own group than just sticking with the mindless zerg which responds only to what people in the cg yells.
Will try to bring a complete and balanced setup of Thidranki Blitz to the field in a not too distant future..
See ya out there
I don´t know if it was because mb was overflooded by albs alot, but we seemed to run into the zerg on many "irregular" places.. is it just me or have the zerglings finally discovered the domains beyond the rivers at mb?
Seriously though, when I find 4fg albs at mb I just can´t help to wonder.. I mean there´s so much more fun in roaming with your own group than just sticking with the mindless zerg which responds only to what people in the cg yells.
Will try to bring a complete and balanced setup of Thidranki Blitz to the field in a not too distant future..
See ya out there
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old.Mu.
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The sorc was Ewulman.
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kragh
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Ewul indeed
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oldtimer
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>and most tanks can take down infils in bg too
Even a correctly specced hunter can do that if the infi is stupid enough to try and fight instead of running away.
Even a correctly specced hunter can do that if the infi is stupid enough to try and fight instead of running away.
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granny
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Re: DISCLAIMER: MY EXTENSIVE USE OF PUNCTUATION MAY CAUSE YOU TO BURST OLLOL!
Heheh Of course I'll unstealth... perf artery tends to make me do that
I'm gonna hang about the ruins next couple of days, away from the zerg... come join me Not tonight though (tuesday), got guild rvr, but wednesday defo
Heheh
Of course I'll unstealth... perf artery tends to make me do that I'm gonna hang about the ruins next couple of days, away from the zerg... come join me
Not tonight though (tuesday), got guild rvr, but wednesday defo
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Hya, Ewulman here thanks for the fun fights, never around MB as there is no fun to be had in a zerg, unfortunately i capped last night but i'll be back \o/ AEMEZZ in bgs is well overpowered tbh, but hey we were mostly duoing and cpl times taken on fgs. However bit more awkward versus you guys, instas really messes me up, and so many instas in a grp of 3 
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Anyways, sorry to hear you were geting steam rolled by the albs, wondered how we werent meeting each time i ported back <died so often it was embarrising>, and for all you guys who will now pipe up with "u were zerging zerger etc.." at the end yes i was got to 410rps.
Respect to Aquatic and the 2handed thane<im doing that mid excal shortly>, and so sorry to that bonedancer, poor lil fella got killed every meeting
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Aquatic you might remember me and twhirly, we were infs in bgs a long time ago u still had same name, think twhirly was called Norsemunx or something, and you seemed to have the better of us then too
thanks for the fun fights, never around MB as there is no fun to be had in a zerg, unfortunately i capped last night but i'll be back \o/ AEMEZZ in bgs is well overpowered tbh, but hey we were mostly duoing and cpl times taken on fgs. However bit more awkward versus you guys, instas really messes me up, and so many instas in a grp of 3 .Anyways, sorry to hear you were geting steam rolled by the albs, wondered how we werent meeting each time i ported back <died so often it was embarrising>, and for all you guys who will now pipe up with "u were zerging zerger etc.." at the end yes i was got to 410rps
. Respect to Aquatic and the 2handed thane<im doing that mid excal shortly>, and so sorry to that bonedancer, poor lil fella got killed every meeting
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Aquatic you might remember me and twhirly, we were infs in bgs a long time ago u still had same name, think twhirly was called Norsemunx or something, and you seemed to have the better of us then too
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kragh
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Oh yeah I remember them. Best infils I´ve met in the BGs so far. Made me and Wound cautious everytime we passed ab ;-P
..Now get your arse into lvling up another toon. Aerial is almost ready for it ;-)
..Now get your arse into lvling up another toon. Aerial is almost ready for it ;-)
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<cough>
Instant cast AOE stunn
<cough>
Bone dancers instant cast life tap - 4 sec repeatable
Bone dancers pet army
Bone dancers health regen buff
Bone dancers instant cast debuffs
<cough>
Granted healers dont have instant stun in the BG, but aslong as BD's remain un-nerfed you get no sympathy at all, Mid have THE best 2 characters in the whole game for RvR. So cry on another forum
I hate the zerg too - which is why i never follow it and generaly go my own way to find some 1-1 or 1-2 battles.
Instant cast AOE stunn
<cough>
Bone dancers instant cast life tap - 4 sec repeatable
Bone dancers pet army
Bone dancers health regen buff
Bone dancers instant cast debuffs
<cough>
Granted healers dont have instant stun in the BG, but aslong as BD's remain un-nerfed you get no sympathy at all, Mid have THE best 2 characters in the whole game for RvR. So cry on another forum
I hate the zerg too - which is why i never follow it and generaly go my own way to find some 1-1 or 1-2 battles.
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what are the 2 best characters in the game?
BD's? they can be taken down with simple tactics just like anything else
me and 2 other hunters just defended abermenai from an alb force of about 10-12 albs..... that was because of TACTICS (and some stupidity, albs put a ram near water at the ck ).
whats the other best class? healers?
BD's? they can be taken down with simple tactics just like anything else
me and 2 other hunters just defended abermenai from an alb force of about 10-12 albs..... that was because of TACTICS (and some stupidity, albs put a ram near water at the ck
).whats the other best class? healers?
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Jessy
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Originally posted by ormorof
BD's? they can be taken down with simple tactics just like anything else
Bull... try living on the other side of the fence and use a "simple" tactic on them. The only class ive played that can beat them is a wind theurg, the life tap will trash a mins or sorc. but the theurg pets seam to work, any class without mezz just fails even faster.
They are way overdue for a nerf, you really must admit that one class has never dominated the game as much before.
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all you need is fast weapons and abit of damage, my savage duelled one and almost won (he was a crafty little bugger and managed to root me)
so i can accept that BD's are powerful.. but they can be beaten just need an infil and a scout
so i can accept that BD's are powerful.. but they can be beaten just need an infil and a scout
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BD:s r overpowered 1vs1 or so
There is no class in the game that has ANY chance at ALL against a BD 1vs1 in BG0-1.
I have BG0 BD Testosterona and BG1 BD Tappa.
both fully SC and buffed ofcourse.
Testosterona is so overpowered I rarely play her anymore.
Beat 5+2(the 2 showing up when I killed the last of the 5) albs alone. It was a VERY close fight ofcourse and probably none of the albs had any real RvsR experience....but still....I mean it was no uberness from my part. BD r rather simple to play.
In BG1 the uberness becomes less obvious. Havent taken on that many things alone there but I do remember 3 Luris(1NS+2 rangers) attacking simultaneously. They didnt have a frigging chance.
Not trying to brag here. I mean how hard can it be fully SC+buffed+BD+some RvsR experience. My point being BD are very powerful 1vs1-3(if enemys lack mezz).
I actually don't think they need nerfing though. Some class obviously has to be best in 1vs1. Why not BD. Other reason is that they arent VERY good in bigger fights. Range aint that far and the pets usually end up messed meaning youre "just" (almost) another caster. 2 hardhitting tanks have more dmg output than u can heal.
Ps. Forgot to prove my point in the subject but I just can't remember all the times I killed solos with no effort at all.
If u feel u can do it I'd be happy to arrange a duel(If u plan to use the lagtrick...don't bother...I recognize it and will flame u for it). IRC as Lage/Laga
There is no class in the game that has ANY chance at ALL against a BD 1vs1 in BG0-1.
I have BG0 BD Testosterona and BG1 BD Tappa.
both fully SC and buffed ofcourse.
Testosterona is so overpowered I rarely play her anymore.
Beat 5+2(the 2 showing up when I killed the last of the 5) albs alone. It was a VERY close fight ofcourse and probably none of the albs had any real RvsR experience....but still....I mean it was no uberness from my part. BD r rather simple to play.
In BG1 the uberness becomes less obvious. Havent taken on that many things alone there but I do remember 3 Luris(1NS+2 rangers) attacking simultaneously. They didnt have a frigging chance.
Not trying to brag here. I mean how hard can it be fully SC+buffed+BD+some RvsR experience. My point being BD are very powerful 1vs1-3(if enemys lack mezz).
I actually don't think they need nerfing though. Some class obviously has to be best in 1vs1. Why not BD. Other reason is that they arent VERY good in bigger fights. Range aint that far and the pets usually end up messed meaning youre "just" (almost) another caster. 2 hardhitting tanks have more dmg output than u can heal.
Ps. Forgot to prove my point in the subject but I just can't remember all the times I killed solos with no effort at all.
If u feel u can do it I'd be happy to arrange a duel(If u plan to use the lagtrick...don't bother...I recognize it and will flame u for it
). IRC as Lage/Laga
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laga is spot on imo, Bonedancers are overpowered soloers, but against a semi decent grp they are nothing to brag about, apart from maybe the ultimate interupting machine <which is damn useful>
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So the definition is that its ok for ONE mid class to take on a semi decent group. mmmm think Mythic need to strongly look at the class if this is the case.
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staffzor
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Acctualy i meant that if you were to go grp v grp one having a bonedancer in, and the other not then that bonedancer grp would not beat the other grp even tho a bd can solo half a grp, that half a grp the bonedancer however did solo, must have been really crap.
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i have only ever seen a BD take out a semi decent grp that consisted entirely of green cons (in aber )
other than that 3 people can easily take it down (from my personal experience)
)other than that 3 people can easily take it down (from my personal experience)
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Re: BD:s r overpowered 1vs1 or so
OMFG why the hell do you need mega over powerd class+buffs+SC i mean holy shit talk about over kill, im not surprised u killed 7 peps at one time.
A 5 year old can play a BD, but i think a dog could play it when bb+SC in thid!
Originally posted by laga
There is no class in the game that has ANY chance at ALL against a BD 1vs1 in BG0-1.
I have BG0 BD Testosterona and BG1 BD Tappa.
both fully SC and buffed ofcourse.
Testosterona is so overpowered I rarely play her anymore.
Beat 5+2(the 2 showing up when I killed the last of the 5) albs alone. It was a VERY close fight ofcourse and probably none of the albs had any real RvsR experience....but still....I mean it was no uberness from my part. BD r rather simple to play.
In BG1 the uberness becomes less obvious. Havent taken on that many things alone there but I do remember 3 Luris(1NS+2 rangers) attacking simultaneously. They didnt have a frigging chance.
Not trying to brag here. I mean how hard can it be fully SC+buffed+BD+some RvsR experience. My point being BD are very powerful 1vs1-3(if enemys lack mezz).
I actually don't think they need nerfing though. Some class obviously has to be best in 1vs1. Why not BD. Other reason is that they arent VERY good in bigger fights. Range aint that far and the pets usually end up messed meaning youre "just" (almost) another caster. 2 hardhitting tanks have more dmg output than u can heal.
Ps. Forgot to prove my point in the subject but I just can't remember all the times I killed solos with no effort at all.
If u feel u can do it I'd be happy to arrange a duel(If u plan to use the lagtrick...don't bother...I recognize it and will flame u for it
OMFG why the hell do you need mega over powerd class+buffs+SC i mean holy shit talk about over kill, im not surprised u killed 7 peps at one time.
A 5 year old can play a BD, but i think a dog could play it when bb+SC in thid!
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Re: Re: BD:s r overpowered 1vs1 or so
too true
delete your bonedancers! huzzah!
too true
delete your bonedancers! huzzah!
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:O ... try playing one every sees u as a target... everyone goes for u.. cloth armor does take damage easily u know.. and that 4 sec recast time can be a bugger.. as well as being stunned.. plus try mezzing the healing pets etc.. tis not as easy as u make out
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>Mid have THE best 2 characters in the whole game for RvR
For your info, RvR isnt 1 vs 1 fights, never was, never will be, those instances are rare. Mythic designed Doac as a group/realm vs group/realm game, not for soloplay.
So the "powerful" BD become quite timid when you approach it with proper tactics, but then "a balance group" > all classes in unbalanced groups. Finding the right tactic requires brains of course, and if you try once, die, release and go somewhere else the chances are small that you learnt form the encounter and are doomed to redo the mistakes from the first encounter.
And the pac healer's strenghts for cc has been very diluted with all those "counter cc" RAs other realms have. The instas isnt available in thidranki so you basically have 3 realms castable mezz. None have and advantage here.
For your info, RvR isnt 1 vs 1 fights, never was, never will be, those instances are rare. Mythic designed Doac as a group/realm vs group/realm game, not for soloplay.
So the "powerful" BD become quite timid when you approach it with proper tactics, but then "a balance group" > all classes in unbalanced groups. Finding the right tactic requires brains of course, and if you try once, die, release and go somewhere else the chances are small that you learnt form the encounter and are doomed to redo the mistakes from the first encounter.
And the pac healer's strenghts for cc has been very diluted with all those "counter cc" RAs other realms have. The instas isnt available in thidranki so you basically have 3 realms castable mezz. None have and advantage here.
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Guess i'll just hand out the cheese then.
Here you go guys
Here you go guys
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Re: Re: BD:s r overpowered 1vs1 or so
1. Havent played DaoC for ~6 months
2. When starting over I wanted to try BD
3. Ofcourse I make the best BD possible if I have easy access to SC etc. Who wouldn't?
4. I wasn't aware they were this powerful, but I still wouldn't refrain from SC etc since most fights arent 1vs1ish.
Honestly, If u had access to BD+SC+buffbot would u make your BD as low powered as u could to make it more "fair"?
Maybe if you r some roleplaying type but I wan't to have fun. Beating 5+2 alone IS fun. Beating someone 1vs1 very easily is not but with the current albzerg the latter is never the case anyway.
1. Havent played DaoC for ~6 months
2. When starting over I wanted to try BD
3. Ofcourse I make the best BD possible if I have easy access to SC etc. Who wouldn't?
4. I wasn't aware they were this powerful, but I still wouldn't refrain from SC etc since most fights arent 1vs1ish.
Honestly, If u had access to BD+SC+buffbot would u make your BD as low powered as u could to make it more "fair"?
Maybe if you r some roleplaying type but I wan't to have fun. Beating 5+2 alone IS fun. Beating someone 1vs1 very easily is not but with the current albzerg the latter is never the case anyway.