FoP is RvR imunity now?

Septina

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Resting in the middle of decayed lands might be a tad stupid indeed BUT, a group seeing another group 'roaming' will instantly take this group as ready to fight when that group might just have stuck up to head to the 'safespot' and will get engaged on low power and such.

However stupid it is its the safest way to rest asap after a fight and most groups do respect any group resting in a fop wherever it is.

Jumping a resting group just means you're after easy rps and cba with fair fights. :p
 

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Reckon you got mezzed because of the reputation GA have, can't say 100% as i didn't do it but if someone said for eg NFD behind, i doubt anyone would have been as twitchy.

TT have been mezzed getting too close to fights (usually on that damned crossing :p) but that doesn't mean engage. Seen plenty of twitchy CCers unsure of whether a group is coming in to add or not and its a personal call whether to CC or not should that group actually be adding (because doing nothing means you get rolled anyway). If you just demezzed and moved away then there is no add, you get 1min free mez immunity and theres no reinforcement of adding.

I agree with Septina, sometimes stupid is safer. But if you see a group doing that i'd probably want to steer well clear so if they should decide to suddenly move off and try to win the CC you have time to react. (there's been whine regarding people supposedly resting in the centre and mezzing groups who run past thinking they wouldn't be engaged by a resting grop).
 

mazdaline

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when we in same channel we were having fun and joking around and tought u were to tbh and we diddnt kil u there

and yes so we can promise never to add on 8 vs 8 bare in mind that an accidental mezz can happen but we always move off when we se elater they in fight

and then can u promise that NONE of the hibs add on us anymore? can u promise that? dont think so because there always pricks around who wil always add and blame us

and yes im very pissed on that person swearing in vent yesterday towards me i dunno who he was

and i diddnt add to rr 11 i added in the start when i started in rvr 1 year ago i was new and diddnt knew the rules towards rvr i used to be in a guild when i rvr who went out with 2 fg but then moved to my own guild and started there to learn

like shike says and claimes we suck etc i dont know who he is tbh i dont even know him and tbh the way he behaves its even better i dont know him

and yes i rather have fair 8 vs 8 fights but we NEVER get them u have any idea how frustrating it is for us? the idea noone gives ga a chance

and like other ppl said we a guild with more then 8 ppl and some run in pug groups we cant stand in for what they do

if we run GG we always start with we do not add or gank soloers unles they engage us and wanna fight us wich often happens with sorceres mezzing us and trying to kil us 1 by 1

if we see a group fighting and i talk about a 8 vs 8 and not a zerg we leave the group fighting it out and dont add from time to time we even watch the fight to see how they do but usually we move on to find something else

but tbh i have less fait in ppl giving us respect just look at ppl like shike 1 minded and there more around of those and 1 hib told me actually the reason farils groups gank me when i solo/duo is because he knows its me and they like to gank me can u explain to me whats so fair about that? gank me just because im a girl? do you think thats respectfull? oh its shivae gank her its fun and trust me this is what someone said in ventrillo when i was duo with a guildy and asked someone why they ganked us and this is what i got for answer and yes that were ppl from farils group
 

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Ilovetonuke said:
No you should work on that then as your grp messed us when we run past you
the sorc or other toon that messed us should have asked in your vent to engage or not.
try not to run so close then, problem solved. And as seryth said, i dont really feel safe when GA runs by, because earlier you always added, and still do sometimes calling it "mistakes". I can understand that albgroup very well who mezzed you at inc, cause i'm quite sure you would have engaged them even though resting/whatever. The problem is you do difference things every single night, some nights you add and zerg alot, other nights you don't, makes it really hard to work out what to do with the group(to expect engage while resting, fighting allready, blabla). And do you really think its ok to engage when someone have just stucked up? I won't add on you and our grp, unless you have done the same to us earlier, to prove a point.
 

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Well shivae when uve came with zerg from brynja 500 times, slammed and had all the randoms come down nuke you, it gets kinda boring..

Then suddenly u dont like it anymore when its done to you, and want people to stop it cause they wont give you a chance, i wonder why.
 

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auroria said:
I won't add on you and our grp, unless you have done the same to us earlier, to prove a point.


hmm i dont remember us adding on you and yesterday you did on us hmm what point did you prove yesterday then ?
 

mazdaline

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hmm when do you see me zerging? i mean i respecced to slam since not so long ago i dont play during the day exept some pve and when i do its usually in duo or on a alt in duo i never am on brynja unles hibs are camping and bugabusing in tower and the group tries to clear it adn i never lead groups i havent been in random groups for like 2 months/3 months maybe now? i usually only run GG or gg with 2 randoms in it and when we run gg we are eighter sieging in agramon or just roaming around and clear out frontier?

i dont get the point that u think i zerg you cal it a zerg if 20 soloers on brynja decided to charge the bugabusing hibs? and then u think its me leading the zerg when i never ever leaded a group before? strange
 

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o srry i remember you thought that we added on a alb and mid fight as we did not do. so you guys thought it would be better to kill the mids and steal the points from the albs with im very sure they would have gotten as they where winning
 

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Hmm, haven't actually said kudos to GA for actually running in Agramon lately, seems alot of the Hib groups who used to run Agramon prefer to farm in HW with iRvR there at the moment.
 

Ilovetonuke

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I thing agramon is the best place for fg vs fg and yesterday i saw alb grps running and they played very very good

dont wanna bre greedy but i want to see more alb grps running there as i know you have the amount of ppl to make some fg's and run agramon.
 

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mazdaline said:
when we in same channel we were having fun and joking around and tought u were to tbh and we diddnt kil u there
Yes you did, you charged after me 5k units with your trio and fg "soloers" following the duo we had?

mazdaline said:
and yes so we can promise never to add on 8 vs 8 bare in mind that an accidental mezz can happen but we always move off when we se elater they in fight
Fight is probally allready ruined then?

mazdaline said:
and then can u promise that NONE of the hibs add on us anymore? can u promise that? dont think so because there always pricks around who wil always add and blame us
I can promise that we wont add, can't speak for rest of the hibs

mazdaline said:
and yes i rather have fair 8 vs 8 fights but we NEVER get them u have any idea how frustrating it is for us? the idea noone gives ga a chance
We have given you plenty of chances, and for some reason we keep giving you them

mazdaline said:
if we run GG we always start with we do not add or gank soloers unles they engage us and wanna fight us wich often happens with sorceres mezzing us and trying to kil us 1 by 1
Yeh right

mazdaline said:
if we see a group fighting and i talk about a 8 vs 8 and not a zerg we leave the group fighting it out and dont add from time to time we even watch the fight to see how they do but usually we move on to find something else
Seen loads of examples when you don't
mazdaline said:
but tbh i have less fait in ppl giving us respect just look at ppl like shike 1 minded and there more around of those and 1 hib told me actually the reason farils groups gank me when i solo/duo is because he knows its me and they like to gank me can u explain to me whats so fair about that? gank me just because im a girl? do you think thats respectfull? oh its shivae gank her its fun and trust me this is what someone said in ventrillo when i was duo with a guildy and asked someone why they ganked us and this is what i got for answer and yes that were ppl from farils group

Of course im gonne gank you, you always do, even though im solo, duo whatever, and no, why would I gank you just because your a girl? It's more cause you always gank me, add when im playing other chars, and tbh, I know most of your characters, its not really hard to know cause its always something called shivhae(like) mazdaline(like) etc, and theyre always norses with loads of flashy stuff on which no others in this game would even consider using, considering how much you have been adding/zerging previously its not really weird that a grp wants to chainkill you. I find it funny you whine so much at me though, when I'm like one of the few enemies who actually try to respect your fights when you run fg :touch:
 

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Septina said:
Resting in the middle of decayed lands might be a tad stupid indeed BUT, a group seeing another group 'roaming' will instantly take this group as ready to fight when that group might just have stuck up to head to the 'safespot' and will get engaged on low power and such.

However stupid it is its the safest way to rest asap after a fight and most groups do respect any group resting in a fop wherever it is.

Jumping a resting group just means you're after easy rps and cba with fair fights. :p

Yes lets all stickup a fop in the middle of agramon when we need a rebuff/rest! Seriously when did this became common rule? Resting is fine if you want to use it as an excuse for loosing Septina :p, but stop making an complete arse of yourself by resting in the middle of agramon. Look m8's we're resting you cant attack us. The moment the other group turns, you engage, or even if you would w8 a couple seconds, the moment of surprise (getting the jump or whatever) is completly gone. "Most" groups in agramon have seen the killspam or the fight and will respec that, when you're just done fighting, however this doesnt mean you got a free ticket for the next jump whenever you feel like it.
Ie. go and find a better spot to rest then in the middle of agramon, only seen it be done by teh aka - 9 rr11's, Maelstrom, we're always a pug d00m m8's with atleast 2bd's to generate some freeking FH/Irc whine.
It's sooo bloody cocky to rest in the middle of agramon it gets on my tits :(
 

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Tuths Tits...get on em' while the're semi-fresh!
 

mazdaline

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quote: Of course im gonne gank you, you always do, even though im solo, duo whatever, and no, why would I gank you just because your a girl? It's more cause you always gank me, add when im playing other chars, and tbh, I know most of your characters, its not really hard to know cause its always something called shivhae(like) mazdaline(like) etc, and theyre always norses with loads of flashy stuff on which no others in this game would even consider using, considering how much you have been adding/zerging previously its not really weird that a grp wants to chainkill you. I find it funny you whine so much at me though, when I'm like one of the few enemies who actually try to respect your fights when you run fg
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wel NOT al mazda toons are mine fyi i only got 2 and they are non active doubt u ever see my warrior and my thane in rvr as they first on the delete list if i need slot

and flashing yeh because i want my toons to look good for my eyes thats 1 thing i like about this thing glowy flashing stuff and ponies is something wrong with that? i mean evryone can build a template and dont mean its a gimp template i get things for looks and stats because i always forget to use my arties uses pots charges etc anyway coz i cba to type the use for it

and dont whine about u and i dont know if it was you who said that faril i heard this of 1 of your realm mates that it was been said in your group and if it was you or another groupie of yours i have no idea i only know that it was a big reason to gank me and someone said it in your vent in your group and i diddnt got a name of the person who said that

and chasing you yes coz its anoying if we have a fight with u and u always run off with that melody song u play after your group died die with your group next time than we wont have to chase
 

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keep it up

Just go on killing a nice game with ur onesided rules and agreements.

Feel free to ruin the game for 7 people roaming everyday, this for 1 person who is in our group and happened to have been adding alot maybe zerging.

Thx in advance.
 

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Tuthmes said:
Yes lets all stickup a fop in the middle of agramon when we need a rebuff/rest! Seriously when did this became common rule? Resting is fine if you want to use it as an excuse for loosing Septina :p, but stop making an complete arse of yourself by resting in the middle of agramon. Look m8's we're resting you cant attack us. The moment the other group turns, you engage, or even if you would w8 a couple seconds, the moment of surprise (getting the jump or whatever) is completly gone. "Most" groups in agramon have seen the killspam or the fight and will respec that, when you're just done fighting, however this doesnt mean you got a free ticket for the next jump whenever you feel like it.
Ie. go and find a better spot to rest then in the middle of agramon, only seen it be done by teh aka - 9 rr11's, Maelstrom, we're always a pug d00m m8's with atleast 2bd's to generate some freeking FH/Irc whine.
It's sooo bloody cocky to rest in the middle of agramon it gets on my tits :(

Say what you want, wont change shit now will it. :p
Most people in a fop, wherever it is wont get jumped by other groups because most groups are after GOOD fg vs fg fights, they're not there to 'gomg farm rps and obey the golden rule if its red its dead'.
Fact remains, sticking up and leaving for a safe spot to rest can be interpreted as a roaming group to other groups and that means its a bigger risk that you get attacked, tossing up a fop wherever when you're done fighting means you dont need to stick up and 'roam' and as mentioned before, MOST groups dont attack resting groups wherever they are resting. :) Period!
 

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mazdaline said:
and yes so we can promise never to add on 8 vs 8 bare in mind that an accidental mezz can happen but we always move off when we se elater they in fight

iirc whitelock said something similar in an older thread, a month ago or so, and after that you guys have added us down countless times. Its kindof hard to actually trust what any of u say but sure, time will tell if you actually can hold what you say.

mazdaline said:
and then can u promise that NONE of the hibs add on us anymore? can u promise that? dont think so because there always pricks around who wil always add and blame us

we normally dont add on you, since we respect the group you are engaged with already. Think we added you guys down once when you were fighting hibs though because you had added on us 3 times in a row that evening already, and once when you were engaged with an albzerg, that time we killed the lot of you. Hibs in general, who can answer for a pug for example? Just dont mix up GG's with proper pugs and it should be fine I guess.

mazdaline said:
like shike says and claimes we suck etc i dont know who he is tbh i dont even know him and tbh the way he behaves its even better i dont know him

I never said you suck, I just find it quite funny that Ive seen you add on our group a ton of times and here you lot sit and just blatantly deny it all. That if anything is just bs. Btw, im the firbBM in the brown hibgrp with red cloaks that chainfarmed you lot last friday, perhaps rings a bell then? I just think that if you add and behave... "bad".. ok, just dont frigging lie about it, it does nothing but undermine your credibility totally.

mazdaline said:
and yes i rather have fair 8 vs 8 fights but we NEVER get them u have any idea how frustrating it is for us? the idea noone gives ga a chance

well, if you use the brain alil here and think of a reason, could it be so that you have an awful reputation for adding like there is no tomorrow? :/ Or is that just total fiction with zero ground at all? Maybe people just imagine it all and think you guys are those purple hairy men running around adding on everything.

mazdaline said:
if we run GG we always start with we do not add or gank soloers unles they engage us and wanna fight us wich often happens with sorceres mezzing us and trying to kil us 1 by 1

if we see a group fighting and i talk about a 8 vs 8 and not a zerg we leave the group fighting it out and dont add from time to time we even watch the fight to see how they do but usually we move on to find something else

but tbh i have less fait in ppl giving us respect just look at ppl like shike 1 minded and there more around of those and 1 hib told me actually the reason farils groups gank me when i solo/duo is because he knows its me and they like to gank me can u explain to me whats so fair about that? gank me just because im a girl? do you think thats respectfull? oh its shivae gank her its fun and trust me this is what someone said in ventrillo when i was duo with a guildy and asked someone why they ganked us and this is what i got for answer and yes that were ppl from farils group

Im not so 1minded actually, im one of the quicker to forgive and forget, show some decency and fight fairly and dont add and my mind will actually change quickly and most likely I will also be there to say it in the open. I dont hold grudges for long :) (your reasoning about you beeing a girl is ridicilous btw, just drop it)
 

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Tuthmes said:
Yes lets all stickup a fop in the middle of agramon when we need a rebuff/rest! Seriously when did this became common rule? Resting is fine if you want to use it as an excuse for loosing Septina :p, but stop making an complete arse of yourself by resting in the middle of agramon. Look m8's we're resting you cant attack us. The moment the other group turns, you engage, or even if you would w8 a couple seconds, the moment of surprise (getting the jump or whatever) is completly gone. "Most" groups in agramon have seen the killspam or the fight and will respec that, when you're just done fighting, however this doesnt mean you got a free ticket for the next jump whenever you feel like it.
Ie. go and find a better spot to rest then in the middle of agramon, only seen it be done by teh aka - 9 rr11's, Maelstrom, we're always a pug d00m m8's with atleast 2bd's to generate some freeking FH/Irc whine.
It's sooo bloody cocky to rest in the middle of agramon it gets on my tits :(
yeah i agree. Arrogant to think that you can just rest wherever. dont rest in places you know grps pass (sides of hills etc) - go to a place you wouldn't run with your own grp to be safe, or take the chance and maybe have a grp attack you. i dont mind fighting grps if we're resting, as long as they didnt go through the milegate and searched the zonewall for us :p
A presured situation is quite fun
 

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Septina said:
Say what you want, wont change shit now will it. :p
Most people in a fop, wherever it is wont get jumped by other groups because most groups are after GOOD fg vs fg fights, they're not there to 'gomg farm rps and obey the golden rule if its red its dead'.
Fact remains, sticking up and leaving for a safe spot to rest can be interpreted as a roaming group to other groups and that means its a bigger risk that you get attacked, tossing up a fop wherever when you're done fighting means you dont need to stick up and 'roam' and as mentioned before, MOST groups dont attack resting groups wherever they are resting. :) Period!

Isnt hard to look at the killspam really and the savespots arent really that far from the middle of agramon anyway. Fact remains that resting in the middle is just showing yourself without beeing able to get jumped, but with the advantage of knowing who is there and where they are/went too. Never hade anyone resting in the middle of agramon tbh, just something your group bin doin l8tly. Never hade any problems with good and fair fights before that in agramon also. Resting in the middle of agramon is no excuse for having good fights. Gomg? farm rps and the golden rule if its red its dead has never bin much of a problem in agramon, besides when Mid/GA whas there :p.
 

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Ilovetonuke said:
No you should work on that then as your grp messed us when we run past you
the sorc or other toon that messed us should have asked in your vent to engage or not.

can't say i agree. what do you do when you see possible attackers incoming? i would think you try to CC and control them before they have a chance to engage you. wouldn't you say that's a common action to take?

now giving your reputation (which you can't dispute, you are known for adding (i don't judge if it's fairly or unfairly, it's just the way it is)) don't you think it's what they did? they saw possible attackers and decided to handle them before they could do any damage. even if you had no plans to add the other group can't now this. they can only go on past experiences and good will and the result became pretty obvious.

although i don't know exactly what happened. maybe you where clearly running by and they where being assholes taking advantage of that and killing you off ''for free''. happened to me a few times. but there is a solution to the problem: don't run close to fights. curiosity killed the cat, or in this case the full group.

it's quite hard to determine ''blame'' in situations like this so why even bother? ppl perception on things (generaly) onsided at best. a few weeks back i was running shaman in a PuG-grp. after attacking a grp and eventually killing them the following lines appear on IRC (don't have a screen or log of it so it's not the exact words):

<member of the grp that got killed> yes, RvR have been quite fun tonight except for the adding fucktards
<member of the grp that got killed> hi coocoo
<member of the grp that got killed> xD

fun. the fact that the first time we saw them that evening was when they attacked us resting in a fop after fleeing from the zerg with 1 grp member ld:ed didn't matter. neither did the fact that it was 3 coocoo:ers in the grp (shaman, zerk and sm). we all see what we want to see :(
 

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Agramon crossing, so very little space to move about in. Which is why i prefer groups running to stick around decayed and the surrounding MGs (once in agramon my group doesn't go beyond the MG's typically). Usually if its looking crowded with fights on the crossing we either move through without retaliating to any cc that might fly around or move into the water and swim underwater to the last bridgehead.
 

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Infact Septina its happend often enough to see you resting there, then turn about, and at that moment some of your group engaged. Not to mention its annoying for the cc'rs and stuff, or if an hib and alb/mid group would come at the same time. Clip distance, cant really see if your resting, run towards, etc. You're just like a pile of poo (no offence really!) attrackting fly's and things get messy then.
Its just weird and nerfwracking for the cc'rs (and group in general) to have groups resting in the middle.

P.s. Ohh and cocky too.
 

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Tuthmes said:
Infact Septina its happend often enough to see you resting there, then turn about, and at that moment some of your group engaged. Not to mention its annoying for the cc'rs and stuff, or if an hib and alb/mid group would come at the same time. Clip distance, cant really see if your resting, run towards, etc. You're just like a pile of poo (no offence really!) attrackting fly's and things get messy then.
Its just weird and nerfwracking for the cc'rs (and group in general) to have groups resting in the middle.

P.s. Ohh and cocky too.

Biggest pile of crap EVER! We dont even go for groups that passes us while resting, we roam in a different direction to get a 'non artificial' jump or whatever.
We do not nor have we ever jumped any passing group while we're resting so talk less bullshit kek. Except if its LA but they attack any group resting so to hell with them. :)

Also, cant recall once when we've been engaged by a resting group when we ran by.
Couldnt give a shit if theres 'too many unwritten rules' these rules make rvr in agramon fun for everyone.
Noone like being attacked while having 20% power and in need of rest.

The mutual respect that groups show to eachother in agramon is as i said what makes rvr there great and hope rp horny people dont go and ruin it by steamrolling every resting group they find. :)
 

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Septina said:
Biggest pile of crap EVER! We dont even go for groups that passes us while resting, we roam in a different direction to get a 'non artificial' jump or whatever.
We do not nor have we ever jumped any passing group while we're resting so talk less bullshit kek. Except if its LA but they attack any group resting so to hell with them. :)

Also, cant recall once when we've been engaged by a resting group when we ran by.
Couldnt give a shit if theres 'too many unwritten rules' these rules make rvr in agramon fun for everyone.
Noone like being attacked while having 20% power and in need of rest.

The mutual respect that groups show to eachother in agramon is as i said what makes rvr there great and hope rp horny people dont go and ruin it by steamrolling every resting group they find. :)

You don't get the point really. Never said you got the jump or where resting in the middle to get it, however did engage and for fair reasons, you need to position yourself on inc anyway. However when you do the inc party isnt sure wether you split up because your rdy or just for inc and big trolls come charging in because they need too. In anyway even you should be able to see, it is just no good. For all the above reasons in my previous post you didnt respond too.
Anyways, lets make a new rule since you seem to lub em so much.
-=There will be no resting in the middle of agramon, no matter how oop your bd's are or how cramped their f8 finger is!=-
 

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