FoP is RvR imunity now?

[Cromcruaich]

Just keep it going the way it is imo VERY rarely get jumped in bad spots in agramon, and when we do it's usually only by rog groups who haven't played in agramon before. Working as intended! And it's very well

Aye, good point. Less melodrama everyone.

 

[raid]

Seriosly... Our grp got alot of whine killing some hibgrp in a fop resting in the middle of decayed lands (Agramon mob spawn) !!

Our grp never add ongoing figts and never will but if you need to rest pull of in a remote area. Cause if you are in decayed lands were all the action you gonna get engaged......

You got whine where? #agramon.rvr? How surprising, considering it is basically meant for groups who DO agree with the common "fair play rules", which also includes not jumping resting grps.

Don't like the rules? Simple, /part the channel, play whichever way you want. If someone still whines, leave that channel too/put the person on ignore/whatever. Remember to mention you play for fun and pay your subs, too.

 

[swords]

Well Whitelights, i was in the group which killed you after you finished off the last asylum pug member for the following reasons:

1. Early on in the evening we had a wierd jump vs Maelstrom at the Agramon crossing and were just pushing through to finish off the last of them when your group comes in from behind and wiped us.

2. After just finishing a fight vs Mids (so you must've seen the DS before clip range) we stuck the driver to move off (we knew the Hib group was there but they had also just finished a fight so we both moved off to go and rebuff) and you come steaming in and mez us all. As Farils mentions they were to the left of you as you came in and decided to do what they did.

So based on your groups apparent policy that once the last member is dead its fair game (or while the last few are being killed in case no.1) we simply decided to do the same.

I find it amazing how many groups running do not seem to have a problem letting a group which has only just finished fighting move off to rest, yet certain groups still can't seem to grasp it. If you want RPs go to Hadrians, it's much better rps/hour than Agramon.

 

[whitelights]

lol

For me its all clear that certain people can do whatever they like whenever they want.uke:

All excuses are good whenever u need them.

Personaly i think future could have given some verry nice gameplay, but tbh with this people giving themself the rights to do whatever they want ,whenever they like,with whatever excuse they can find, i don't see any reason to bother so ...
follow urs we will follow ours.
But stop playing the leet allknowing fairplaypolice when u cant follow ur own rulesuke:


U can all have the fun of spamming this forum with whatever sh*t u wanne dump in it.

but i'm sure shike will take care of that part.uke:

Cu in game ...

 

[Shike]

but i'm sure shike will take care of that part.uke:

Cu in game ...

dude, you dont get that the ones that put you and your group in the position you are in, are none but yourselves? Is that hard to understand or what?

 

[auroria]

But stop playing the leet allknowing fairplaypolice when u cant follow ur own rules

in what way do we not follow our own norms? If i added on another group i wouldnt whine if another took us in the back, would feel sort of fair. When I run in agramon i expect groups not to add, and not to jump people resting, if other groups don't follow norms that most groups have, ill do my best to get em back in instarvr, as long as i still respect other groups fights versus them. However, if I run instarvr i expect most groups to add on us, except certain guildgroups, but still try to run a nonadd policy,unless it proves useless except versus the groups that doesnt add on us.

 

[whitelights]

Well Whitelights, i was in the group which killed you after you finished off the last asylum pug member for the following reasons:

1. Early on in the evening we had a wierd jump vs Maelstrom at the Agramon crossing and were just pushing through to finish off the last of them when your group comes in from behind and wiped us.

2. After just finishing a fight vs Mids (so you must've seen the DS before clip range) we stuck the driver to move off (we knew the Hib group was there but they had also just finished a fight so we both moved off to go and rebuff) and you come steaming in and mez us all. As Farils mentions they were to the left of you as you came in and decided to do what they did.

So based on your groups apparent policy that once the last member is dead its fair game (or while the last few are being killed in case no.1) we simply decided to do the same.

I find it amazing how many groups running do not seem to have a problem letting a group which has only just finished fighting move off to rest, yet certain groups still can't seem to grasp it. If you want RPs go to Hadrians, it's much better rps/hour than Agramon.

I remeber that yes / we wanted to move to the rightside into the water direction.
But before we could reach the water (on speed6) one of your groups sorcs decided to turn towards us and mezzed me and some others in group , thats when i decide to engage .
Soz but don't spoil my purge.

 

[pjuppe]

I find it amazing how many groups running do not seem to have a problem letting a group which has only just finished fighting move off to rest, yet certain groups still can't seem to grasp it. If you want RPs go to Hadrians, it's much better rps/hour than Agramon.

although there is a slight difference between engaging a fg that runs off to rest and engaging a fg that's resting on the plateu in decayed lands (which is what the thread is about unless i'm interpereting it wrong).

 

[pjuppe]

And nataljah, i don't think i whine after fights unless engaged while resting or while fighting others, and we'r tolerating quite alot of "mistakes" by certain groups.

i might have misread, misinterpered and misunderstood but it's just a feeling i've gotten. i might have piled you in with a bunch of other players. i do like the non-adding you do (which you do very well imo. /salute for that) and even spareing me if i'm out solo.

it's just the feeling i get when we engange your group is ''whooptidooo (spelling?), here comes the whines'' regardels if it's a win, loose or draw.

but sorry about the remark. it was out of place.

 

[Acrantophis]

Mids were all killed , and albgroup was moving, and like i said in my post they also killed us after we got the last alb down in a previous fight.

But as u say it urself there farils u did ADD.

And now u profile urself as the one who is to decide when he can ADD or when not, while there is a Total nonADD policy in agramon? Or am i wrong here can we now add when we FEEL for it or when WE THINK there is something unfair going?

Seriously, since im one the banelord tanks of the hibgroup your talking about, when farils yells on hill ,ga adding on albs, go for mids, i run in, see one BLUE troll hitting on a saracen, and one MULTICOLORED troll? since when do you have blue trolls on groups? so DONT LIE, because you did add while they we're STILL killing off the other mids, even if they only had 2 tanks left to kill, its STILL considered an ADD if you do so while they are still engaged (ie COMBAT MODE)

On the other hand what ONE person in our ventchan said, im sorry for, we told him off after the dispute that dont do that again, no need to be rude.

But saying you didnt add is total bullshit.

AND resting in fop means druids / healers / clerics have low mana

would ANYONE here, consider it fair to fight a group without their healers?.
THOUGHT SO, resting the case for now.

 

[auroria]

i might have misread, misinterpered and misunderstood but it's just a feeling i've gotten. i might have piled you in with a bunch of other players. i do like the non-adding you do (which you do very well imo. /salute for that) and even spareing me if i'm out solo.

it's just the feeling i get when we engange your group is ''whooptidooo (spelling?), here comes the whines'' regardels if it's a win, loose or draw.

but sorry about the remark. it was out of place.

Well, i wont whine aslong as its a fair fight, not thinking of no abilitys up etc, but simply wether its add or not, or resting. Even if i might say like qq at moc, qq at kite, blabla thats not whine, just shit i say for fun, and should in no way be looked upon as whine.

nps

 

[whitelights]

Seriously, since im one the banelord tanks of the hibgroup your talking about, when farils yells on hill ,ga adding on albs, go for mids, i run in, see one BLUE troll hitting on a saracen, and one MULTICOLORED troll? since when do you have blue trolls on groups? so DONT LIE, because you did add while they we're STILL killing off the other mids, even if they only had 2 tanks left to kill, its STILL considered an ADD if you do so while they are still engaged (ie COMBAT MODE)

On the other hand what ONE person in our ventchan said, im sorry for, we told him off after the dispute that dont do that again, no need to be rude.

But saying you didnt add is total bullshit.

AND resting in fop means druids / healers / clerics have low mana

would ANYONE here, consider it fair to fight a group without their healers?.
THOUGHT SO, resting the case for now.

Next time i will SS it then no problem.

 

[Acrantophis]

Next time i will SS it then no problem.

How can you screenshot something that ongoes for 20seconds? GL, but i think FH mods is gonna be pissed when you post 600 screenshots xD

Dont worry i think we got it frapsed too m8

 

[Shike]

How can you screenshot something that ongoes for 20seconds? GL, but i think FH mods is gonna be pissed when you post 600 screenshots xD

Dont worry i think we got it frapsed too m8

giff vid!

(i just wanna see how u play BM actually haha)

 

[swords]

Same, so i can find out all your weaknesses and exploit them MUAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Ilovetonuke]

Yesterday on Agramon Golden Age did not add on any fight.

the thing that happend at Beno was just because some1 messed our grp and yes we saw DS and yes we where moving towards the erea between beno and eras.

Yesterday when we went agramon we fought a alb gro we engaged them whikle they where in the middle and no1 was arround we killed the alb grp when we saw a second alb grp me (maxy) knows this wel because i was after 1 alb that run throu them and i saw the second alb grp move slow and restick when i went to our grp leader 2 of us where killing the last alb and before he was dead albs messed us and we engaged in second combat the albs won.

The run after that we saw the alb grp fighting against mids we move arround that fight we saw all mids dead 3 of us in grp said that all mids where dead and we saw no1 standing the albs where resticking and we engaged them (the same alb grp that engeged us straight after a combat) we messed the kited and killed me very fast because our support was rooted behind then i heared some in our grp saying that they where being attcked by HIBS (farils grp) and they killed us for us adding wish we did not. 1ste they kill us by adding and the also added on the albs we engaged im almost 80% sure the albs would have killed us.

And we run with ppl in grp who will leave the group if will add on perpose.

And on the topic part i think if you are resting in Agramon you need to watchout for other grps. and the grp that is resting has a fop so they will get a little bit of power while in combat and ppl who are done with a fight can also stick up move and use ml10 port to rest up safe.

Im srry if my english is bad

Greetings,
GM Golden Age
Maxy.

 

[swords]

ML10 port? are you serious? ...

 

[mazdaline]

quote: Every time another hibgrp add if we fight you we get a PM from em that goes like:
Sorry guys but its GA, we only added because its them.
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oh so this confirms who the adding realm is and tbh farils group adds on anything he pleases i have toons in other guild and in non coloured and non listed and when i solo on them i get ganked by farils ubah rr 11 leet group evry single time.

so just bullshit and we did not add on that alb group because al the mids they fought were dead and released. and before that that SAME albgroup whiped us when we were resting

last week farils group whiped us on the hill when we were resting and had a ld in agramon is that what u call respect?

so respect rest and non adding? seems like farils group aint any better

and u can fuck of and whine about ga all you want coz i cant care shit about we never add in agramaon and we dont add on purpose elsewhere unles its just 1 big mid zerg when we on keeptake or something.

accidents happen its not always clear to see when ppl fight and then the groupleader backs off and we turn around when that happens
but welmost ppl on this forum and in hib are 1 minded anyway they see someone form ga they add and zerg if some mid ad/zerg its al;ways ga that done it.
no matter what we say u hiblets dont wanna believe us anyway so why the hell should we respect the adding policy / why the hell should we proof that we dont wanna add as ppl wil call us adders anyway things that happen in the past wont be forgotten by ppl.

i tell you this in group we dont even know what to to do anymore because its always like is it ok to fight here? are they fighting? we spend 90% of the time to see if we can fight and because of that we always get steamrolled wich takes away the fun part of rvr

but well ppl wil see us as adders and so be it i dont care we do our best not to add but ppl dont see that and tbh i dont care anymore.

i just am sick of those fucking leet high rr hibs who think they are god and can do anything they want. they make up the rulez and they make up whats fair and thats always in their advantage and then they even proud of what they acompished wel i only feel pity for those hibs

so go on and do your stuff and so will we and we wil see in the end whos right
but dont go fucking whine about us again because farils group u aint any better

 

[Ilovetonuke]

ML10 port? are you serious? ...

You know the once Sojourner have on ml10 grp port

10 Mass Gateway - teleport entire group back to caster's last bind point

It enables the caster to port their entire group from where they are to the Soj's bind point. Cast time is about 20-30 seconds. No one in the group can be in combat or the spell can not be cast. The power cost is almost nothing. No recast timer.
Is very useful when doing quests/MLs, minimal effect for RvR

 

[swords]

Why would you bother porting when you can just regain power in a FoP, do combat rebuffs and resists and move out again?

 

[Ilovetonuke]

because then you have a change to get a fight straight away if you port you have all power full capped buffes and maybe even the ra's and ml's can come back up.

 

[Dallas]

shivae whining about adds.. im looking out for a meteor outside my window atm, world has to end now.

 

[Ilovetonuke]

And ppl plz i admid in the start of Golden Age (mid) we added and zerged but then we came and saw that on not adding and zerging we can have much more fun.

Golden Age if we run set grps or GG grps we dont add on FG vs FG fights.
it sometimes can happen then we engage but when we do and see thats its wrong we pull of ASAP and these things happen to all as its not always good to see hwats going on and stuff.

Like Shiv said before we spend alot of time talking in Vent if we can engage or not, we rlly look for that now.

I can not stand in if ppl run in random pug grps that they will not add and stuff but thats the grp that they are in that start and stuff.

If you see Golden Age zerg is allways when we are raiding towers and keeps and are in a Battlegroup. (Yes Golden Age does alot of sieging aswell)

But ppl plz try not to blame everything on US when something goes wrong

Greetings,
GM Golden Age
Maxy

PS and Golden Age MID is NOT i repeat is NOT Golden Age HIB totaly different players

 

[swords]

because then you have a change to get a fight straight away if you port you have all power full capped buffes and maybe even the ra's and ml's can come back up.

I can get a fight quicker if i move away from the finished fight, put up a FoP somewhere off the usual track, rebuff people who got sheared or died compared to moving off just to cast that port. (oh and having a sojo in an Alb group is very very very rare).
Now its all well and good not resting in the middle of decayed (which is stupid) but when resticking to move off somewhere safe and rebuff regen power etc it does suck to have a group come plowing right into you. Would you agree?

Plus, porting just so you can sit and wait for RA timers is a bit...hmm.

Like Shiv said before we spend alot of time talking in Vent if we can engage or not, we rlly look for that now.

Ok, but you will probably have to work harder since you have already built up a reputation (probably the reason the sorc chose to mez when you came close). So we'll agree its a general cockup on all sides just as long as this kinda thing gets less prevalent.

 

[Ilovetonuke]

We are allways aware when we done with a fight the next grp can come in The other grp can not know what your condition is in maybe they won a fight and did not have to use anything and are rdy straight away.

 

[Acrantophis]

Shivae, What about the time me and Faril duoed in Odins, when you ran up, slammed me, and i got rolled by SM add's?

You didnt even try to not add, we we're on the same vent channel and you still added when you HEARD we we're fighting.

Noone can perfectly judge if someones fighting

But seeing your PAST, wich basically includes adding on everything you see, YOU HAVE TO REALISE that people will 99% of the time take you for adding, EVERYTIME we fight, and we see you running by, we're getting READY to kite incase you add, cause sometimes you have done so.

And besides, we're not a rr11 group, they had me last night, and a chanter that was rr11.

If you want people to trust your group 100% then write a thread, stating you will never add on a single 8v8 fight anymore in rvr discussions, and ask people not to add on you while fighting, maybe thats a way to clear your dirty past.

Because lets face it, i didnt add my way to rr11 on my bm, you have, so you gotta understand people have a hard time trusting it.

Anyhow, if you felt you did right yesterday vs the albs, soz for the add then, but i dont feel complete trust when your group runs past a fight anywhere,

Can your group actually promise to never add on a 8v8 anymore? If so, then you'll earn the same respect back from the other groups.

It's a shame that you have that reputation to your group though, because some fights vs you are really fun, talk things through with your group and decide to not add ever again, and then fair enough.

And as i said to whitelights, what the person on vent said yesterday, it was ONE person, and he got told off after you left the channel.


/Seryth.

 

[Ilovetonuke]

Ok, but you will probably have to work harder since you have already built up a reputation (probably the reason the sorc chose to mez when you came close). So we'll agree its a general cockup on all sides just as long as this kinda thing gets less prevalent.[/QUOTE]

No you should work on that then as your grp messed us when we run past you
the sorc or other toon that messed us should have asked in your vent to engage or not.

 

[Ilovetonuke]

[/QUOTE]
Ok, but you will probably have to work harder since you have already built up a reputation (probably the reason the sorc chose to mez when you came close). So we'll agree its a general cockup on all sides just as long as this kinda thing gets less prevalent.[/QUOTE]

No you should work on that then as your grp messed us when we run past you
the sorc or other toon that messed us should have asked in your vent to engage or not.

 

[Behmoth]

you see an enemy you kill them. nuff said!

 

[Ilovetonuke]

If you want people to trust your group 100% then write a thread, stating you will never add on a single 8v8 fight anymore in rvr discussions, and ask people not to add on you while fighting, maybe thats a way to clear your dirty past.


/Seryth.

Like i said in a prevoiuse post on the Golden Age whine we are not the same anymore we are other players now and we will not add on 8v8 if an accident happens all ppl go HAHA they added again we try 100% not to add but sometime an mistake happens and ppl dont understand that.