Finster salutes you

[old.FIN]

jejejejejeje

there is always huge 50 asasasasassasinsssss ZERG in all over, but they have prob to regroup because they r all stealthed and they loooking each other to regroup, but they cant find no1

now stfu and go play

 

[Zag Barr]

Originally posted by Subbiz
I dont know about u, but I count 3 Infils attacking me. Isnt that a stealther team?

OMG PLEASE THATS JUST WEAK CANT U COME ONE BY ONE PLS
THX K BBYE!

[/B]

3 vs. 3 (+ a grey hib helping you) - what's wrong about that?

Madeleine survived - so you won. Why are you pissed? You going down without hitting anyone? Sorry for picking you first, but 800+ damage every 2 sec is just too much

If you ever were solo, I would attack you alone. Zerkers are always nice fights and involve some skill on the infi side to be the one left standing.

 

[Aussie-]

Re: LOL!

Originally posted by -fonS-

LOL! thats all i can say .. im the guy playing mele 90% of the time atm, and ask ANYONE from NP or from middie who knows me, mele has NOT been grouped the last 150k rp since i see sb as a SOLO class .. so take that comment and place it somewhere else .. cause its obviously directed at the wrong person
And if u dont believe me, i dont think i can convince u, but it is a fact ...

those 4 other SBs today were just in the neighbourhood right? ;/

 

[-Creep-]

Well all i have to say is that the assassin madness has just begun... I see like 3new sbs/infils/ns every day and malmohus is filled with shadowblades on their run to the magic 50. I remeber the good old days when i was 1 of a few shadowblades tbh there was much more fun those days and people seemed to flame less and salute each other more.

I solo maybe 90% of my gametime and thats because i cant be bothered to team up with people i don't know and most of them can't play their class

Sometimes a couple of shadowblades team up if we know there's an infil somewhere.. and as u know I'm a 2h user and 2h weapons really increases the enemys evade rate, and that combined with dragonfang really takes me down easy, even with capped thrust resist. So if i know there's an infil out there... I will bring a mate if i know someone is close or else ill just attack and pray to god

But after respecc I'm gonna be a shadowzerker with a vengance so bevare enemy stealthers

And BTW, ppl take this game to seriously. Chill out... some stuff might sound as a whine but it aint... so just take it slow and wait with the flaming. Just put a [Flame] sign next to the post so people know its a "I own u so hard post"

 

[-Creep-]

Btw...

Aussie stop the sb flaming allready?

Scouts aint that bad either... normal shots for 500? crits for 1k? thats just insane... My PA does like 400dmg on you.. and thats less than a normal scout shot? then you just slam and keep up with the shooting... its kinda insane that a stealther got shield specc tbh.

If you dont wanna get killed... just slam and run.

 

[poi]

Originally posted by -Creep-
Btw...

Aussie stop the sb flaming allready?

Scouts aint that bad either... normal shots for 500? crits for 1k? thats just insane... My PA does like 400dmg on you.. and thats less than a normal scout shot? then you just slam and keep up with the shooting... its kinda insane that a stealther got shield specc tbh.

If you dont wanna get killed... just slam and run.

use purge ? then a slam is no good

 

[-Creep-]

Purge is on a friggin 30min timer

 

[kinadold]

So is my ip after a pa + posion

And Creep you know about see hidden, and the amount of
sbs wanting to gank archers. Did i mention assasins allways
gets first move. And i know you have purge since you escaped me
the other day.

Trust me it aint so easy being a scout these days.

 

[ironheart]

ur absolutely right

although ppl may do such a thing it is annoying

maybe we should get just as much stealthers of ours out there with the needed skill to spot these basterds and teach em thats everything can be beaten, dunno.

powerplay is no fun, and maybe it's best to let mythic nerf em all.
as i heard from ppl on US server, NERFING is about. allway the same, some ppl abusing some thingy and let the other ppl get punished.

might this just a be a bit of reality in this fantasy game hehehehe


greetz

 

[Subbiz]

Originally posted by Zag Barr


3 vs. 3 (+ a grey hib helping you) - what's wrong about that?

Madeleine survived - so you won. Why are you pissed? You going down without hitting anyone? Sorry for picking you first, but 800+ damage every 2 sec is just too much

If you ever were solo, I would attack you alone. Zerkers are always nice fights and involve some skill on the infi side to be the one left standing.

well, what I felt was that this thread was a whining of stealthers teaming up in scirmish rvr, and 3xPA on the same guy is teamwork

I am not pissed, but I think its low to complain about stealther teams.. its a fact that there is stealther teams, just get used to it and find the best way to gank them

I recall one afternoon where I log on, mids own amg in emain and there is a 2FG guildgroup out. I solo run from mtk towards amg to join the others (riscy affair, but sometimes this provides me with some nice fights vs stealthers actually), and I get jumped by 2 minstrels, 3 infils and 2 scouts(or something very close to that combo).. and they were doing teamwork, coz they gankede 2-3 others shortly after, and it was clear to see that they were organized.
I called for the guildgroup and gave them all info on the stealthers, and they came along with see hidden and TS and ganked all but 1 infil.
pretty much shows that a stealther team isnt more lethal that any other FG, but they have an easier time taking you by surprice.

If I get tripple PA'ed, and not to mention allowing CD to hit me also, its my own fault, then I have moved around too little... I dont care much about the whole stealther team thing, I would go in stealth teams if I played a stealter. Imo that provides an alternative form for rvr tactics and is just a part of the game.

 

[katt!]

Re: LOL!

Originally posted by -fonS-
mele has NOT been grouped the last 150k rp since i see sb as a SOLO class ..

you and those 6 other sbs just happened to stand in the same spot at amg?

i still see quite alot of sbs solo.. its just the crappy ones that you never die from solo that gang up

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by -Creep-


If you dont wanna get killed... just slam and run.

you forgot to finish your sentence.
If you dont wanna get killed by me.... just slam and run into the other 40 SBs.

Aada Cradle 50 367,504 Shadowblade Norseman None
Agaton Sax Nolby Pride 50 581,319 Shadowblade Kobold None
Anubis Black Company 50 366,589 Shadowblade Norseman tailoring 500
Brode Swiftaxe Diva 50 251,283 Shadowblade Kobold weaponcraft 346
Creep Nolby Pride 50 1,386,222 Shadowblade Kobold None
Darkomen Cradle 50 275,989 Shadowblade Norseman None
Darkshadows PeC White Rose 50 155,805 Shadowblade Kobold None
Edea Elbereth White Rose 50 0 Shadowblade Norseman None
Eeny Weeny Nolby Pride 50 1,393,864 Shadowblade Kobold None
Find Me Dragons of the North 50 280,549 Shadowblade Norseman None
Finster Nolby Pride 50 509,610 Shadowblade Norseman None
Floret Hand of Loki 50 142,852 Shadowblade Kobold None
Gedan Skugg Hand of Loki 50 382,040 Shadowblade Norseman weaponcraft 46
Hroft Blackhand Black Company 50 110,588 Shadowblade Norseman weaponcraft 262
Isra Red Guard 50 110,008 Shadowblade Kobold None
Ivul Blizzard 50 20,488 Shadowblade Kobold None
Jox Hand of Loki 50 344,089 Shadowblade Norseman None
Kaah Venom Hand of Loki 50 262,382 Shadowblade Kobold tailoring 501
Kaod SoulStealer Hand of Loki 50 94,437 Shadowblade Norseman weaponcraft 120
Kelnor Aesir's Blade 50 153,937 Shadowblade Norseman tailoring 754
Korv Blizzard 50 1,244,549 Shadowblade Norseman None
Liriana Heart & Soul 50 88,469 Shadowblade Norseman None
Lopez Defiance 50 647,974 Shadowblade Norseman None
Mele Nko Nolby Pride 50 305,956 Shadowblade Norseman None
Mhorr Blackwolf Hand of Loki 50 112,980 Shadowblade Norseman tailoring 322
Microbe Red Guard 50 610,692 Shadowblade Norseman None
Necrofeel Black Company 50 68,241 Shadowblade Norseman None
Orla Froesnapper Defiance 50 78,944 Shadowblade Norseman weaponcraft 288
Oxota PK Black Company 50 911,384 Shadowblade Norseman None
Scorn Heart & Soul 50 178,342 Shadowblade Kobold None
Scratchy Nolby Pride 50 366,441 Shadowblade Kobold None
Sheba DragonMerc Blizzard 50 160,089 Shadowblade Norseman None
Sluge Ulv Heart & Soul 50 155,095 Shadowblade Norseman None
Soromaar Silverblade Defiance 50 94,379 Shadowblade Norseman tailoring 649
Sos Blizzard 50 164,959 Shadowblade Kobold None
Sweetdreams Ryoko Nolby Pride 50 36,851 Shadowblade Norseman None
Thorey Vattnadottir Red Guard 50 529,192 Shadowblade Kobold None
Tiki God White Rose 50 560,093 Shadowblade Norseman None
Valeria Wolfshade Morbid Angels 50 60,719 Shadowblade Norseman None
Varg Nolby Pride 50 587,033 Shadowblade Norseman None
Venum PK Red Guard 50 239,471 Shadowblade Kobold None
Zilly Cutting Edge 50 580,221 Shadowblade Kobold None
Zordo Tiwaz's Emissaries 50 71,399 Shadowblade Kobold None

if you didnt notice... they are 50 and have nothing else to do then spend their time in Emain.
I don't even understand where you keep getting your rp food, we dont even have 43 lvl 50 Scouts.

 

[-Creep-]

And half of those sbs became 50 last week or so

Just imagine how many infils there are

 

[Aussie-]

Babe Avengers of Pendragon 50 236,681 Infiltrator Briton fletching 531
Bizarre The Corporation 50 173,321 Infiltrator Saracen None
Cute DragonGirl Black Falcons 50 340,450 Infiltrator Saracen None
Fugu Pigsticker Praetoria Legion 50 94,824 Infiltrator Saracen None
Gawain Lifebane First Cohort 50 239,853 Infiltrator Saracen None
Harpy Guardians of Light 50 837,026 Infiltrator Saracen None
Hysteric Defectu Virium Elite 50 680,543 Infiltrator Saracen tailoring 766
Ichor First Cohort 50 101,497 Infiltrator Briton None
Kelida Guardia Dolorosa 50 102,655 Infiltrator Saracen weaponcraft 15
Light Shadow First Cohort 50 210,708 Infiltrator Saracen None
Lore Equilibrium 50 142,778 Infiltrator Briton None
Lunar Guardians of Light 50 352,041 Infiltrator Saracen None
Mallus Darkblade First Cohort 50 1,297,420 Infiltrator Saracen None
Marrah Matricidia Ferus Legionis 50 563,275 Infiltrator Briton weaponcraft 433
Nicolas Oeuf Fiasco in Progress 50 0 Infiltrator Saracen tailoring 344
Ninjastyle Black Falcons 50 983,829 Infiltrator Saracen None
Ninjawrath Shadowlords Society 50 42,233 Infiltrator Saracen None
Pin StNeedles Shadowlords Society 50 755,747 Infiltrator Saracen None
Raisen Bloodspiller Praetoria Legion 50 296,055 Infiltrator Saracen None
Zaknafein DoUrden The Ministry 50 172,685 Infiltrator Saracen None

20! thats like less then 1/2 of SBs , knowing we are the 'zergrealm' ...

 

[kinadold]

Bah people can make what classes they like and team up
with as many as they like. If all mids made sb's their choice.

Most make them to solo, but Aussie and me made our archers
to solo too. Its not the amount of assasins, its Mythics stupidity
to give them uberpower against our stealth line that sux. No
archer class got anything in return, and we are left as a bad
soloer and a shitty group class. Yes archers may be nice at wall or
keep fight, but in normal group rvr they aint very hot, and shooting people on walls for hours simply aint fun. Maybe decent
RP, but not fun at all.
Yes Eleasias kills many, but his uberbuffed and in a rr5-rr8 group,
hardly fair to expect all archers to have that kind of group.
So i do understand Aussie is a bit pissed, but its Mythics fault not
mids. Yes scouts was not nerfed as much as other realms archers because of slam and minstrel+scout combo, so you can still play
some from stealth.

Beeing buffed as a soloer is a mid choice tho, and highly
unfair, but many albs plays buffed too.

To sum this up, Mythic developers plays their own game very little,
and in general they are as stupid as the most thick headed troll.

 

[-Creep-]

Just wait... Mythic are good at nerfing.. the Nerf bat will soon hit all assassins aswell.

 

[[RG]Thorey]

Aye, you make some valid points

If I was a scout I would be pissed off 2 :/, I hardly ever grp up as I like playing solo (yes aussie 60-70% me + buffbot ), If I do join a sb grp I get bored really easy :/. When I am in a grp of 8 sb, I enjoy trying to take on a fg not zerging one scout..I can fight a scout myself and get 800rp or get killed hehe.

Some of the reasons I solo are:

1. Its more of a challenge to make a kill and get away

2. I love 1v1 even if I lose..It makes me think about what I could have done to improve on my fighting techinqes and win next time.

3. I learned how to (Mostly) avoid TS soloing...thx kinad , this makes me better at grping whe I do decided to join one.

4. I like the idea of waiting for the perfect kill to come along and then striking (sp?)..not zerging everything in 1000m area.

5. Everytime I get killed I learn what not to do...and to be aware of my surroundings...I still run into zergs after killing someone..but you cant be right all the time eh?

I like fighting solo scouts as it tests my keywork..i.e can I get in CD b4 they can get in stun, most of the time this is a no but everytime I try I get better at it. Sure I have to think twice b4 attacking a scout because chances are they are not alone.

If I attack a scout and then get zerged by about 10 infils, then I see that as part of the game, there's no point getting pissed you just learn and adapt.

The amount of SB and infils around makes it worse for solo guys like me..but now I change targets to light tanks and casters etc. Although I like fighting other rouges such as kinad, zagg and pin etc, the chances of me getting out alive because I got killed by a fg of rouges are slim.

So rather than whine on BW, I look at the situation and change the types of targets and areas that I sit in waiting for that kill.

Kthx <Thorey>

[Edit] Should be a bit more understandable now

 

[Aussie-]

eh? i'm not pissed about See Hidden,
just the amount of SBs makes it impossible to solo or leave apk alone.
knowing there are alot yellow con assassins that are becoming 50 soon.... omg hell,
i can almost walk on the heads of assassins to amg.

TS timer should lower with every time an assassin enters Emain

 

[kinadold]

Everyone is free to make and play the classes he like.

But since assasins are uber at killing archers, and
the fact that on all servers assasins vastly outnumbers archers,
its becomming unbalanced from an archers view. If you dont
have a group its nearly impossibel to move out to play.

I dont think assasins are overpowered tho, but maybe some tweakings are needed to remove certain play styles. Also the
fact that assasins have no enemies except 'themselfs', seems somewhat unbalanced. Yes a group with an archer and ts might kill some, but since archers are fleeing/rerolling on every server....

In old days before see hidden, assasins had to be careful, because there was allways a minstrel or an archer hidden somewhere close.

So Mythic did remove a good amount of the assasins enemies with see hidden, and thats the real problem. If assasins had more enemies then fewer would make one, or atleast 'spread' the play out. 20 assasin chars (infil,ns,sb) between atk and amg seems totally insane.

The stealthwar is not 1on1 or surprise anymore, its becomming
purely zerg ganking. I also predict a lot of assasins will find it
quite hard to get kills and earn any rp, because there is a limit
to how many weak/solo targets there is.

In old days if i knew an assasins was close i might have hidden,
and waited until he made a mistake or i made a mistake.
He had his melee strenght and his improved detect vs my range.
Now i will call in a fg turn ts on and gank the poor fellaw, and thats hardly satisfying.

RA's did not make this game better.

 

[[RG]Thorey]

For once I agree about 6 times, I have been setting up to kill and BAM! another SB or NS, takes him down :/...Its also happing a lot more now 2..

 

[Cuthervaen]

An idea

What you think of that? IMO See hidden should be a progressive ability.

See Hidden I would increase the range u see stealthed a bit

See Hidden II more etc

Until See Hidden at max (would be V then i guess) would give you current see hidden ability.

You could still be a uber stealther detector, but you would have to sacrifice much RPs to do so, or you could be not so good at that and instead put the RPs in dodger, IP, MoPain which will make you great stealther killer.

Unbalance imo comes when u have the possibility to find AND kill opponent too easy. If you find easy but can't kill alone or you can kill alone but can't fidn so easily resotres some sort of balance.

 

[old.Arnor]

what cuth said, twice!

 

[hotrat]

Great idea Cuth

atm see hidden is too cheap and too powerful.

that range idea is a perfect solution.

 

[-fonS-]

those 4 other SBs today were just in the neighbourhood right? ;/

+

you forgot to finish your sentence.
If you dont wanna get killed by me.... just slam and run into the other 40 SBs.

just the amount of SBs makes it impossible to solo or leave apk alone.
knowing there are alot yellow con assassins that are becoming 50 soon.... omg hell,
i can almost walk on the heads of assassins to amg.

so if me +4 other SB's jumnped u at same time yes it was a coincidence, but i gotta admit cant remember anytime iv gotten help from 4 SB's at same time, so seriously doubt it happen, maybe 1 guy or 2 popped up and u made it 4 to make it look good ? yea think there is a better chance of that ...
PLZ reply with SS of mele teaming (cross realm ss) or show me a SS of mele +1~~~~ sbs jumping u at same time, happens RARE!!
(and before u try to use it as an excuse or anything, yes i use buffbot, so sew me^^;

da skeepy guy signs out :/