FG rvr balance in one easy step?

[orbin]

You are forgetting one single point as Djin wrote before though its all about the money. BBs will never (ill take it again) will never be altered because Mythic has a huge cashflow on BBaccounts.

Its all about the money that is why they nerf midgard more then Albion, most people play alb on the servers and because of that they need to keep them in good mood, as simple as that. More or less all patching they do is because of the money. They want people to be in good mood so they wont stop paying for their accounts not even the bb ones.

I say it again: Its all about the money!

Thank you!

 

[Forau]

Originally posted by orbin
You are forgetting one single point as Djin wrote before though its all about the money. BBs will never (ill take it again) will never be altered because Mythic has a huge cashflow on BBaccounts.

Its all about the money that is why they nerf midgard more then Albion, most people play alb on the servers and because of that they need to keep them in good mood, as simple as that. More or less all patching they do is because of the money. They want people to be in good mood so they wont stop paying for their accounts not even the bb ones.

I say it again: Its all about the money!

Thank you!

Originally posted by Forau
Do not think this will happen however since Mythic is making a pretty good buck of the buffbot account and in the end, that's what counts.

I'm very sorry, next time I won't naturally assume that the people who post here can actually read.

 

[K0nah]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: FG rvr balance in one easy step?

Originally posted by Forau
That is the biggest load of **** I've ever read. Shaman as a damagedealer? ..... On the other hand, why would it be any less fun than a warden? bubble, resistbuffs, interrupt and heals

41cave 35aug, a 232 bolt (ie anyone not in combat/runners/support chars), a 148dd, both of them on matter resist table? looks like dmg to me, damn useful damage tbh. root dont stack this is true, but then ur lower cave shammy doesn't cast the lower duration ones unless the higher cave is dead, duh...

wardens gimp themselves with this 'must-have-6s-pbt!!1' thing. settle for 8s pbt, and all sorts of very decent specs emerge.

 

[tildson]

Konah, you should really try the other realms out. Your shaman analysis is not good :/

148dd on a class where you cant buff piety?
bolt? ae-dot? really, shaman isnt a damagedealers. and we all got SC and matter-resists.

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by tildson
148dd on a class where you cant buff piety?
bolt? ae-dot? really, shaman isnt a damagedealers. and we all got SC and matter-resists.

148dd will hit for ~160 on 90% of alb grps, hardly shit as support dmg is it? bolt will hit for 250ish.

39/32/18 would be better spec tho

 

[Forau]

Originally posted by K0nah
148dd will hit for ~160 on 90% of alb grps, hardly shit as support dmg is it? bolt will hit for 250ish.

39/32/18 would be better spec tho

20s Timer, both DD and Bolt are on same timer(not 100% if they changed this but they used to anyway). Don't think of it as a damagedealing class, you are gravely mistaken. Shamans are less of a damagedealing class than a cleric, that'd tell you something.

 

[old.anubis]

konah, there's a difference between 20 sec cast delay and 1.5 sec, you know

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by old.anubis
konah, there's a difference between 20 sec cast delay and 1.5 sec, you know

ewww ok nm /blush

 

[hotrat]

2 shamans would be a bit gimped but its the sacrafice you make to have your group fully buffed.
It is odd though that shamans get spec buffs, maybe cus healer can already heal and CC.... its certainly one of midgards biggest weakness but sadly easily countered by buffbots.
I can't imagine what it would be like if friar and warden had spec buffs instead of cleric and druid.

Alb
2 clerics, friar usually

Just 2 clerics usually.

Also Im pretty sure that the shaman dd and bolt are on different timers now but like I say the mend line on shaman, friar and warden could do with being beefed up a bit. Although in terms of rvr here and now the only one to benefit from that would be a warden as a shaman will always be aug/cave and a friar will always be in melee.

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by Rulke-RM

Alb
2 clerics, friar usually

funny, all the 'perfect' albgroups you guys suggest never has a friar. too much craptalk, you sure you talk with your mouth? ;>

 

[AbPoon]

We said a good Alb group wouldnt normally have a Frier

90% of Albs groups are not good so therefore would probley include a frier giving you cures.

NEXT

 

[old.Thanatlos]

Basically what conclusion we've gotten from this is:

- Secondary healers need help: something unique in their mending/regrowth/rejuv that makes that class worth grouping just for that. Instead of having a severely watered down main healer healing line.
- Wardens need cures. bullshit excuse that 'other realm only has 2 classes with it', one realm has 3 determination classes compared to the 2 in other realms. Wardens are clearly a healing class too.
- Effects of every class should stack with another of the same class. (except CC) But dots etc should really be on a unique timerthingy especially if the dots themselves are on a timer for the caster.
- Healers/druids/clerics need something more in their 3rd line that also really makes that spec wanted. (smite is pointless atm due to it not being affected at all by any stats atm i think (damage doesn't increase with more piety right?) pbaoe mezz on very long timer for pbaoe spell, no druid specs past 36 nature because there's nothing more to spec for)
- Disease should have immunity k! (annoyance for wardens especially atm because we have no way to cure so our heals are cut in half even IF another person cures, disease can be reapplied instantly especially with shamans and their pbaoe disease fart)

Anyway SAVE SUPPORT CLASSES!!

Most viable and fun support classes atm are: druid/healer because their 3rd specline has some useful attributes, some CC or some toys.
Wardens/friars are tormented by having 4 lines to spec in and having 1.5 specpoints. And all of the lines less effective even if fully speced than the pure tank/healer (healer i can understand because they only have 1.0 specpoints but if you go full weapon as friar/warden you need to drop a lot of utility/versatility which is what the classes are advertised for)
Shamans the same only 3 speclines, 1.0 specpoints.

Again SAVE SUPPORT CLASSES!!! Else you'll soon see healbots in groups.. booooring!

 

[kin]

Without buffs stealthers will be unplaybel. They have not have any major increase in damage or utility compared to other classes.
They are not wanted in any groups too, they move slow and
even with buffs need to setup kills carefully.
Most non stealthers might think its annoying to have them around, but they hardly perform better than any good group
based char.
Removing buffs will exclude stealthers (like mages with det), and leave only main cc'ers, speeders, healers and tanks in the game.

 

[hotrat]

Originally posted by kin
Without buffs stealthers will be unplaybel. They have not have any major increase in damage or utility compared to other classes.

They can still fight each other or other solo classes, stealthers are solo and not meant to go against fg's, or leech from fg vs fg fights. They are meant to fight other people one vs one, or two vs two or whatever just they should all be doing it without buffs.

Anywany my minstrel sometimes plays solo (unbuffed) and is perfectly playable, in fact the only thing that makes it unplayable is the fact I have no chance vs buffed sb/ns's unless all my RA's are up.