fat vs thin... umm wha??

Ezteq

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saw this on MSN and it really made me laugh i mean theres the gallery and they are comparing girls you have the "fat" one and the thin one (fat one... sorry "fat" one is usually described as curvy and voluptuous...) is it just me or are they all flipping skinny?

Celebrity Fashion | Glamorous Styles | Famous Clothing | MSN UK Lifestyle

people keep going on that scarlet johansonmahbutson is supposed to be a "curvey" (which is hollywood for fat) gal but personally i dont see it, i mean shes got a lovely figure but shes THIN! you want curves look at maralyn monroe or jane mansfield or mae west!

marilyn monroe - Google Image Search

jane mansfield - Google Image Search

mae west - Google Image Search

this isn't another "thin >> curvs" or "men prefer shapely gals" thread this is just a simple observation that what the press deem to be a big gal is what most mortals deem to be slim and fit while what they call thin most of us call skinny, maybe the OED needs to change its definitions of these words so that for once we all know what we're talking about.
 

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the fat girls are slim and the thin girls are anarexic.
 

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So this is thin is it ?

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just dont read crappy girly articles. every picture is air brushed anyway so who cares really!
 

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Well, actually, as i've mentioned before, the "men like thin women" thing is a bucket of bogwash anyway.

We don't care.

That much.

I'm not saying i want a rhino in my bed, but curves never killed me. Well, once, almost, but that's another story.

It's the women liking thin things 'cause they think men give a cr*p, who then ever so cutely change it to "men want thin women and make up and g strings and miniskirts and...". Honestly, we don't care.

Well..that's about it.

Except on topic, none of those have fat on them. From a male perspective. Not marilyn, nor any other.
 

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men are different toh. for instance mikah is gay and so are you
the rest of us like girls like straws that our tiny cocks cant fit into
 

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I'd be afraid to break those anorexic freaks tbh when shaking their hands orso :/
It's just ugly.
And those other girls aren't fat... hell, they ain't even voluptuous like the article claims. They're still pretty damn slim...
 

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For me a female goes from the state of a girl to a woman, when she gets a bit of curves. Like lovehandles and stuff.

I really enjoy that my GF has gained a few pounds since we started daiting. - Even though she don't belive me.

Perhaps it got something to do with the idea of your girl being able to make babies... insted of just being a toy for your enjoyment.
 

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men are different toh. for instance mikah is gay and so are you

Yeah and you're an antisocial, wellfare f*ck who won't amount to sh*t all in this world and is basicly just wasting the air we breathe. Yei, calling people something is fun!
 

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just dont read crappy girly articles. every picture is air brushed anyway so who cares really!

hahah aye did you see those pics of kate winslet on the cover of something or other, they lengthened her legs squidged out all the bumpy bits and you look at her irl shes like 5 and a bit foot in this pic she was abut 6'2 its quite funny, i mean if i was a celeb id sue any magazine that altered a picture of me unless it was in a funny way. i wouldnt want to be a contributer to 10 year old annorexics tbh.
 

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These days thin is US size 0, and "curvy" is US size 4.

You still have to remember that the average UK size is 16 (US size 12) so tbh media perceptions of "correct" size are completely flawed.
 

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really when you get down to it its all a load of bollocks tbh isn't it i mean we watch the movies or tv shows with these women in and we see them eating pizza and drinking sodas and it subliminally clicks "thats how they really live" so we're all a bit miffed when we have a slice of pizza and puff up and all of a sudden media images of women smaller than us are said to be "fat"

i really really wish they would make a documentary showing how these actresses really live, all the fun things they just can't do because they have so little energy etc. and the thing that really bugs me is theres nothing we can do about it, we can't stop media from air brushing we can't force hollywood actors to eat a proper dinner and stop throwing up etc to maintain the figure.

I just wish they'd keep everything in perspective rather than what they do atm which is say lindsey lohan for example eats a pie "shock pics lindsey pigs out!" then this girl thinks argh shit no one'll want me in their films i'd better stop eating so my ribs poke out at the next oscars that'll get the media on my side, then its "shock pics lohan weighs less than a termite!!"

it just really annoys me that people think this stuff is real and that people should be judged on what the media (or even other people) see to be the correct appearance.

sorry lol bit of a rant but i had a freind when i was at school with annorexia and its just such a stupid illness she weighed about 4 stone and still wouldnt eat (wasn't me btw, you couldnt stop me from eating tbh i was to bacon sammiges what the terminator was to women with the last name of connor), stuff like this reminds me how easy it is for young kids to be influenced.
 

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ez, i think most of what you're saying can be blamed on the fucking idiots who actually follow celebrity news.
the publishers have to think of new bullshit everyday and whats more bullshit than mocking people for no reason?
 

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Maybe I'm just weird, but I've always worried more about how someone dresses and carries themself than their weight. I certainly think that a woman who is a size 20 or so but know hows to dress to flatter their figure will look much better than someone who is a size 12-14 who likes to wear skintight tops with their pasty chav bellies hanging out over their belts :p

To be honest, I myself am pretty overweight and I compensate by wearing VERY baggy clothes that make me look like I'm wearing a blnliner! I don't think that's the best course of action, but it's all I can be arsed with. I've never really been one to dwell on my appearance overmuch.
 

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Anyone who cares about modern "trends" or waht is fat or not, is just as shallow as the people proclaiming it as.

If you don't give a f*ck about looks or weight, you won't b*tch about it :D
 

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baggy clothes are a no go. i used be to uber fat (pushing 19 stone) now im just skinny fat (13.5) and ive realised baggy stuff isnt good, it doesnt flatter at all. even if youve got some lard hanging about, fitting clothes make it less noticable.
 

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baggy clothes are a no go. i used be to uber fat (pushing 19 stone) now im just skinny fat (13.5) and ive realised baggy stuff isnt good, it doesnt flatter at all. even if youve got some lard hanging about, fitting clothes make it less noticable.

uber fat? I'M pushing 19 stone and I don't think I'm uber fat :p

I'm the best part of 6'4" with a huge chest and a lot of muscle though
 

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TBH if girls want to be thin leave them alone.. I personally find it more attractive and most of the hate about it is from fat middle aged biznitches who need to justify themselves by deriding people who actually make an effort to look more attractive. :eek6:
 

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I'd rather be the size I am than super skinny.

There wouldn't be anywhere near as much clamouring for mine and Ez's jubblies if they were like fried eggs on an ironing board.

Er, I'd like to add btw I'm not huge, but I ain't (by any means!) skinny :p

Also, I make plenty of effort to look more attractive - it just doesn't involve starving myself, of making myself vomit after every meal.
 

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medium sized girls ftw, cba with skinny girls tbfh ;/

even though im currently a fat-fucker myself, bring on 2 weeks when my exams are gone
 

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TBH if girls want to be thin leave them alone.. I personally find it more attractive and most of the hate about it is from fat middle aged biznitches who need to justify themselves by deriding people who actually make an effort to look more attractive. :eek6:

no, most of the hate about it, is for people that are actually in touch with reality.
If you can count the ribs... it's unhealthy...
Puking your evening meal out every night doesn't equal making an effort to look attractive. It's a mental disease.
 

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TBH if girls want to be thin leave them alone.. I personally find it more attractive and most of the hate about it is from fat middle aged biznitches who need to justify themselves by deriding people who actually make an effort to look more attractive. :eek6:

aye god i wouldnt go about bashing a skinny girl for being skinny that'd be like having a go at an african because he's got black skin, rude and pointless.

My problem is with the media taking girls who look great anyway then photoshopping then to perfection and then real girls struggling and almost killing themselves to achieve this and the media's propaganda that in order to be beautiful you have to be stick thin, you can be but you dont have to be.

As i said at the first post when i made this thread this isnt a thin or fat which is better? thread this is about the media showing pics of skinny girls next to pics of really skinny girls and then implying that the skinny one is fat just because she's a bit bigger, i read about keira knightly who actually said that she feels fat when shes in america becuse she is actually twice the size of some of the girls who audition with her and if something can make someone like her feel fat then it simply has to be a bad thing

i dont like the thing of victimizing thin people any more than picking on fat people but comparing and making folk feel bad about themselves when theres nothing wrong with them to start with really does get my goat (his names hugh btw, he's a pigmy long hair).

I was watching a show last night called how to look good naked and there was this stunning girl on there who had a really stupid issue about her arse being too big, im not kidding she had a great body, flat tum nice but (wasnt big in the slightest) and she had almost a body dismorphic mental condition about it it was rediculous and i had to turn over in the end (show her what a big but really is lol) i couldnt watch it.

Everyone prefers different things which is a great thing tbh and i'd never say its wrong to prefer thin or fat people blondes or brunettes its all personal however with the media its not personal its taking unachievable goals and then making people believe its reality.
 

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aye god i wouldnt go about bashing a skinny girl for being skinny that'd be like having a go at an african because he's got black skin, rude and pointless.

My problem is with the media taking girls who look great anyway then photoshopping then to perfection and then real girls struggling and almost killing themselves to achieve this and the media's propaganda that in order to be beautiful you have to be stick thin, you can be but you dont have to be.

As i said at the first post when i made this thread this isnt a thin or fat which is better? thread this is about the media showing pics of skinny girls next to pics of really skinny girls and then implying that the skinny one is fat just because she's a bit bigger, i read about keira knightly who actually said that she feels fat when shes in america becuse she is actually twice the size of some of the girls who audition with her and if something can make someone like her feel fat then it simply has to be a bad thing

i dont like the thing of victimizing thin people any more than picking on fat people but comparing and making folk feel bad about themselves when theres nothing wrong with them to start with really does get my goat (his names hugh btw, he's a pigmy long hair).

I was watching a show last night called how to look good naked and there was this stunning girl on there who had a really stupid issue about her arse being too big, im not kidding she had a great body, flat tum nice but (wasnt big in the slightest) and she had almost a body dismorphic mental condition about it it was rediculous and i had to turn over in the end (show her what a big but really is lol) i couldnt watch it.

Everyone prefers different things which is a great thing tbh and i'd never say its wrong to prefer thin or fat people blondes or brunettes its all personal however with the media its not personal its taking unachievable goals and then making people believe its reality.

lol i actually saw that was talking through the room and my little bro told me to stop and look at the fat people :(

But ye i basically agree with you there are negative aspects about it and women shouldn't be pressured into attaining unhealthy and unrealistic goals, i just don't like the way things like Heat magazine go on massive crusades against skinny celebs.
 

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aye if they gain a few pounds they get nerfed if they lose a few they get nerfed and the poor bloody 12 year old schmucks who actually pay attention to that shit end up not knowing their arsehole from their elbow.


ew tbh.
 

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although size 0 is silly, at the other end of the spectrum women who go 'I love my curves bla bla bla' are overweight in the majority of cases.

90% of the time its the lack of exercise thats the problem, not the diet. The media fuck it all up by promoting all these shitty diets instead of pushing the simple message 'If you burn more energy than you eat, you'll lose weight'

edit: if your pushing up on past the 15 stone mark (an extreme example) as a women, its most likely you really have a problem... a problem thats gonna fuck the NHS over just as much as smoking/alcohol/hard drugs. So yeh, its most likely some people are gonna hold you the same contempt for you as many do for smokers/alchoholics/drug addicts as its a sign of lack of control and discipline in your life.
 

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The funny thing is though, only the people who arn't the "magazine size", gripe about the "magazine size" and at the same breath say "it doesn't matter how you look". If it doesn't matter to a person how they look, why do they complain about the way people are potrayed, or that some people want to look like it.

Seems a bit (fancy word here)
 

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