*fap fap fap*

[Scooba Da Bass]

We've just contacted an apple representative about getting a few of these babies in at work*.

This thread has no purpose other than to point out how extremely sexy they are.

Thank you.



*when they ship here obviously

 

[kameleon]

Pass the kleenex

 

[Sibanac]

http://www.penguincomputing.com/store/opteron.php
sameone give me 7000€ please
i want both now

 

[Testin da Cable]

I thought osX wasn't 64bit yet? could be wrong though

 

[Testin da Cable]

Three models will ship in August, said Jobs: a 1.6GHz machine with 256MB SDRAM and an 80GB HDD for $1999 (£1549 in the UK), a 1.8GHz box with 512MB of memory and a 160GB hard drive for $2399 and a dual 2GHz system also with 512MB of memory and a 160GB hard drive for $2999.

viva la reg Jobs also said there's a 3GHz in a year. Jobs says a lot really

 

[Jonty]

Hello

Nice hardware, Sibanac, but not exactly aimed at the mainstream market As for OSX, I don't believe it's 64bit, but all 64bit CPUs can still run 32bit environments, they simply can't show off their true potential. I believe the only operating systems with true 64bit support are some distributions of Linux, Windows XP 64bit Edition and Windows Server 2003 64bit Edition (OSX will be apparently updated to fully support 64bit in the forthcoming 'Panther' release later this year).

As for the Power Mac systems, they are indeed impressive, with 1.6Ghz, 1.8GHz and even dual 2GHz processors available. The front side bus will be 800Mhz, 900Mhz and 1Ghz respectively. The two most powerful systems will ship with 512Mb PC3200 RAM, which is upgradable to 8Gb. Whilst the system may not be perfect (the supplied graphics cards aren't cutting edge) it certainly looks set to be extremely powerful. Oh, and it looks nice too

If it didn't cost so much (~$1999 USD for the 1.6Ghz system, ~$2999 USD for the dual 2Ghz system) and if I could run Windows on it, I might be tempted

Kind Regards

Jonty

Edit ~ Sorry about the previous post, thought the link was for Powerbooks, how silly of me

 

[Sibanac]

Originally posted by Jonty
Hello

Nice hardware, Sibanac, but not exactly aimed at the mainstream market

Edit ~ Sorry about the previous post, thought the link was for Powerbooks, how silly of me

well at about € 2200 (remove the onsite support) its niclely in the G5 range, and i realy need a new server... honestly

 

[leggy]

Macs are porn.

If only I had a good enough reason to buy it. I don't think PLYAIN PUTER GAMES counts though.

 

[Testin da Cable]

that's just it isn't it? that mac looks teh se><or indeed, but teh GAMESZ!!1

 

[(Shovel)]

Originally posted by Testin da Cable
I thought osX wasn't 64bit yet? could be wrong though

No, you're right it isn't.

OSX 10.3 Will be, but its slipped. The proposed marketing end solution from Apple was on the Reg last week, but I can't remember exactly what it was. It might be a kind of half way patch, or an upgrade offer.

Essentially though, no 64-bit OSX until the late summer/autumn I believe.

 

[Testin da Cable]

will apple give you a free upgrade to 64bit? will adobe? or will they make you buy everything all over again? sorry for being bitter, I've got a nasty script that's doing my head in :/

 

[(Shovel)]

The words "Free Update" have been conspicuous by their absense... Your bitterness may be well placed.

*pokes your script with a stick*

 

[Testin da Cable]

can you speak ksh? it's doing my head in fs :/

 

[Jonty]

To be honest, I think most 64bit updates will cost money, due to the (I assume) amount of work required to adapt to the new system. I assume we'll get most of the updates simply when the next release of the product is due. But who knows?

Kind Regards

Jonty

P.S. I know the Mac isn't exactly a gaming platform, but with all that power, you would have thought the graphics solutions would be a little more high tech too. After all, it's not like they're worried about the systems being too expensive hehe.

 

[Testin da Cable]

I once said they were overpriced, underpowered piles of p00. they still are even if they look nice. as long as I can build a computer that has an equivilent or greater oomph factor for less than the average cost of a mac then I'm fine imo.

that's all imo though. I know plenty of people who use them and are quite chuffed. personally I'd rather build that dual pIV 2.8ghz system I was wanking off to in another thread and run freebsd on it.. I'm strange like that though

 

[nath]

Other than graphic design/video editing, do macs have any purpose at all other than to look pretty? Is there anything else they do better than pc's at?

 

[Testin da Cable]

no on the other hand, a couple of days ago I was editing a 900meg image on my pc. the pc is reasonably fast, but it was seriously put to shame. mind that the editing of disgustingly large images isn't what I do regularly so the system isn't tweaked fo it in any way. a graphics mate I spoke to said he does that regularly on his mac and "ooh, well it slows down a bit but not so you'd really notice" was what he said. muh

 

[Jonty]

To be honest, I believe asthetics is a big apart of their attraction. You can argue that some applications are more 'at home' on the Mac, such as Photoshop and such, but at the end of the day a Windows system is just as versatile, if not far more so, than a Mac. Or another way, Apple have a mere 2% marketshare. Don't get me wrong, Mac's are cool, but I'd be reluctant to believe the hype until I sit down and test own myself *cue a free PowerMac/PowerBook from Apple*

Kind Regards

 

[(Shovel)]

Nope. I guess you can argue that they are accessible to home users while being more stable than Windows... but seeing as the NT5.x series of Windows releases are stable that argument fell through the floor some time ago.

And the strict control over their hardware does more harm than good in my opinion. While it does protect them from different configurations and Creative Labs soundblaster drivers, they way they bump up costs is suicidal.

It just doesn't add up for me, if you want a pretty puter, buy a PC and a Chieftec Matrix case (the funny grill effect makes me think of a server rather than a desktop system, no idea why, but then, there's always the Dragon models).

Why are you getting them then Scoob?

 

[(Shovel)]

Thinking about it, the G4 powerbooks might have more attraction as being functional, but their superior battery life has now been matched by Centrino, so again, I struggle to justify it..

 

[xane]

The world's first 64-bit personal computer

I think not.

 

[Jonty]

Nice case Just on a side note, has anyone else noticed that Microsoft products have that bit more panache on the Mac?

Can't be bad hehe

Kind Regards

Jonty

P.S. Yes I can be so shallow as to be swayed by things such as the GUI and overall appearance of a product

 

[Testin da Cable]

I don't even try to justify it. Apples are teh evil turds of satan, used by mimes, interior designers and other scum. Oh, and by Scooba who naturally isn't scum. But only cos he's bigger than me

 

[Jonty]

Originally posted by xane
I think not

hehe, true. In theory they can claim it's a first because it will be the first mainstream release of a 64bit PC. But then again, as I'm sure we all know, just because it's first doesn't mean it's going to be the best Nevertheless, hats off to them for this marketing coup.

Kind Regards

 

[(Shovel)]

My personal feeling is that we wont see stable product families for 64 bit systems until mid next year. There will be a lot of flapping about, and there will be a lot of changes that need to be made.

In that respect Apple have an advantage in that, because their product environment is so controlled, it's easier to fix bugs. On ProperPCs there's a lot more to go wrong. As I've said elsewhere, I'm looking forward to maybe getting a cheap IA-32 upgrade of some sort come Christmas time. (Still stuck on SDR 133 Memory, it's starting to show).

 

[Testin da Cable]

not quite true there Ben: stable 64bit fams have been around for ages. just not for old mr joe average :/

 

[Jonty]

True enough (Shovel)

Personally I'm looking forward to Microsoft and HP's 'Athens PC.' Not only does it look amazing (inspired by Apple?) but it has some very clever features, especially when it comes to hardware and software integration. For instance, there's an integrated phone and camera, which means when the phone rings in your house, you'll get a little notification, which allows you to open, say, Outlook and view the contact details of the person who is ringing, as well as being able to take the call, or hear their message direct from your PC.

On the 23" flatscreen LCD monitor (perfect for viewing two A4 documents side by side, widescreen (16:10) movies and games etc.) there are little lights which illuminate whenever new email arrives, for example. The whole system runs almost silently, and switches on or off in around two seconds.

There's also a clever battery backup idea, which means if a power-cut occurs, a small, internal battery will kick in to provide just enough power to safely put the system into hibernation, keeping all unsaved documents safe for when full powered is restored.

Oh, and it's also completely wireless (well, almost, apart from power cables and such) and still manages to come in at an estimated $2000 USD, which I think's pretty good value for money. Upgrade potential may be limited, and it probably won't be a gamer's PC, but even so, you'd probably pay around $2000 USD just for a monitor that size, at the moment.

Kind Regards

 

[xane]

Originally posted by Jonty
In theory they can claim it's a first because it will be the first mainstream release of a 64bit PC.

Mainstream ? Apple ? I think not

 

[Jonty]

Originally posted by xane
Mainstream ? Apple ? I think not

LOL Come come, we shouldn't be nasty to Mac users, they are human beings, after all

Kind Regards

 

[(Shovel)]

Some of that HP system looks quite nice. The keyboard looks like it'll be propping up the bin within a week.

And it is made by HP