fao ironheart and zorbas

[kirennia]

WHat about the higher percentage of DAoC players who are fed up at being called noob, retard, random, <insert latest irc putdown for casual player> just because they dont want to play the game the same way as the gank groups? Horses for courses mate.

I've never done that and never will because I completely agree that it is wrong. If I get pm'ed by lowbies (flagged as an advisor), I give them help where I can. I do however realise that this sort of thing goes on and it's another thing which shouldn't happen but it does and I'm sick of it too (get some of those comments myself too). I just didn't write that in my original reply because that wasn't what was being discussed at the time

 

[Fyric]

Ironheart, zerging or fighting for your realm as you would call it, is what mythic wants you todo, granted, but mythic also thought warlocks was a good idea, having the worst piece of crap LoS system ever made, and that EPIC armours was supposed to be the best around, i mean seriously, what does mythic actually know .

if you're too thickheaded to think outside the box, and not do exactly what mythic wants you todo, you really need to tap into that creative part of your mind that must be there, that is.. if you have a mind?

 

[Red HATred]

Red_Hat, answer my Q please!

Whats the difference between having a 1v1 game of Tennis and a 1v1 in game like DAoC? Are all that play sports stroking an e-peen too?

Some people might even arrange a game of Tennis over an irc channel, the shame of it, ruins the whole sport.

PVP server has the room and to do that...

rvr server has not...

as i clearly stated, the coincidental encounter ... one on one, fg vs fg do exist .. i know that, but they should be found in a "natural" way... (pitty for the radar users etc. i know that there are a whole lot of factors pointing in the non obvious direction.

i disaprove on one and only one thing, the fact that as it is now.. knowing about the IRC abuse and theppl that got caught in the act... there is no longer a way to tell the difference between the honest encounter or the IRC-version.

Don't blame me for that, blame those cheaters. As for cross realming... ppl do get banned for cross realming so why should/do you even defend the fact that two ppl arrange a fight over IRC???????????????
And since you want to have a ONE on ONE fight, there is NO natural way by which you could , without communicating with the enemy, know about this person's whereabouts... so you want to duel.. you may be considered either a cheater .. using others means then this game to get locations of the enemy... or keep wandering and HOPE you eventually get the /beckon, like uberbad archer censi does.
Don't you get it... as it normally runs, there is NO way you could run into a specific person on a spot without having made a "date".
Or either you are willingly looking for that type of fights and you do camp that one bridge or spot all by yourselfe... that would eventually also result in MORE albs comming to that spot and ganking you. which would make you move from that spot, again resulting into not beeing found..

If you do run out there and you occasionally would get a /beckon from an enemy .. (which seems to be the signature for:"hey, let's duel").. and you get added upon... don't come crying.

first of all: RVR here is simple base upon MASS warfare... and i repeat what i have stated a bit higher... the one on one does happen, it does occure, it is logical but it is NOT AND NEVER MAY BE ARRANGED.. there is no way to tell the difference so..tough shit, blame cheaters for informing the community they fucked that part of the game up.

and i ain't thickheadded about it.. i do realize that this univers has it's buggs, i surely do..
but to see that exploiting those bugs + cross realming + wandering of the base concept of the game... really leaves all futurous buyers of this game for rvr purpose with absolutely NOTHING.
I spoke with a person that returned to daoc last night.. while doing EOY with two ppl... and it came to the topic "what would an ideal expansion to daoc be according to you", my reply was.. "No expansion, let then finally fix all the mistakes and bugs in-game at an even speedier rate then we have now, so all players could finally enjoye the finished project, being the end game, RVR"

 

[Bracken]

as i clearly stated, the coincidental encounter ... one on one, fg vs fg do exist .. i know that, but they should be found in a "natural" way...
ppl do get banned for cross realming so why should/do you even defend the fact that two ppl arrange a fight over IRC...

As someone who generally doesn't like IRC I'd say there is nothing wrong with 2 people, or 2fg of people arranging to meet at a certain place at a certain time for a fight. In fact if that's how they can guarantee they get to enjoy the game in the way they like then I think it's a positive thing. As long as both people/groups are genuinely fighting (i.e. it's not a rp farming session) then it's fine. Besides, if you say arranging it on IRC is wrong, what about people who also know each other irl - you're saying they can't arrange to fight when sat next to each other either? It's essentially no different. Even from a "game concept" point of view, there is nothing wrong with arranged fights (arranged duels/battles have always taken place) - as long as the outcome isn't predetermined. Seems to me you are wanting everyone to play the game according to your own ideal.

 

[Red HATred]

No in comparsion to Planetside, DAoC does mass combat/keep takes very poorly. Here's why:

1) Firstly while DAoC's engine has definatly improved over the years, it still does not handle several hundred players well. While not perfect planetside is considerable better during a zerg.

2) Everyone in planetside has ranged attacks. This is definatly NOT the case in DAoC, and a keep take is excruciatingly boring for tanks and support.

3) There are masses of LoS bugs in DAoC, now in open RvR these are mostly a non-issue, however they rear their ugly head anywhere near a hill let alone a keep. Also due to game mechanics it's possible to nuke/shoot anyone who lags through a wall (and you will), which is very annoying. In addition to collision meshes having holes in them, for some unknown reason LoS in DAoC is done from the feet!?! This can make it rather tough for defenders to get a spell off if they're behind castelations (sp?).

4) Sieges used to be too short in DAoC, now they take too long. I really don't fancy sieging a keep ALL DAY.

Now you may wonder why I don't play Planetside instead of DAoC, well I actually play both, however DAoC is by far and away the best small scale PvP game I've found, and I've tried a lot of games. Solo, Duos/trios with a bard, and 8v8 are all great fun.

Incidentally, for the most part I really couldn't care less what keeps you take, and what relics you take. Have your fun, it's no skin off my back. Feel free to zerg, I'll just avoid you, there's always small scale action on the perifary of any big fight - and imo that's where the fun is.

As for the "greater good" give me a break, this is a computer game not a charity. I play this game for fun, and because I have friends here (incidentally Voice coms >>>>>>>> text for making friendships).

1) true, i fully agree, it is about time those things got sorted, doesn't mean anything, Mythic is more based upon enlarging then finishing the job.. not our fault

2)at least DAOC has all.. close combat, which is highly developped imo, still is buggy with the walk-through thing , and ranged.. which are BOTH usable in all types of events if played correctly. I think that a lot of tanks actually like doing a siege, as artillery master, or siege operator. most sieges i've seen ended up because of one reason, ppl lose focus, they stand there for like 5-8 minutes, looking at a gate beeing bashed... while that is the average time that the enemy takes to get there and be able to defend the spot. Not all spots are guarded... so .. that is their eta. If tanks are awake, they have a verry important task when defending vs incomming. They could be the turtles shell.. for exemple.

3) the out of game technical aspect is indeed one of those buggs that defenatly need to get sorted.. while some of those lagg issues are not always cause because of the lack of bandwith towards the server, but also the extremely bad connection some ppl get at home.+ the pc that formerly was their mums dishwasher.. there is a minor engine one, that indeed causes problems. I've had it alot myselfe... shooting someone that lags through the walls... extremely stupid, but nothing we can do about that.

about that greater good... that was a quote from one of the ppl that got banned for cross realming...
And indeed, teamspeak is a verry nice add to DAoc which indeed makes it less roleplay stylish at that point.

you see , i don't disagree with your point, but still that does not mean that ppl have to alter the basic concept of the RVR theme, does it.

if ppl want to avoid the zergs... no problemo... as long as they do their thing hounorable and as it should be done... without stepping beyond the boundaries of the LOG IN screen..

I used to stay in Barrows to avoid the Emain zergs as it used to be in old fronteer. Don't think i do enjoye lagging to death. But in NEw fronteers i've been on a couple of initiative set up by some verry good players (won't mention their names , otherwise they'll think i'm sucking up) where i was able to play full effects and a verry large bunch off ppl was present. So the system has improved imo. that is also my ongoing motivation to wake up the battle spirit, and i hope that as soon as next patch goes life.. there will be some serious warfare out there.... struggle for power.

i keep my fingers crossed.. maybee those old-timer raid organisers will have to courage to do those things again...

 

[Raven]

ironfart, dont you realise you are just as bad as the IRC twats when you try and impose your style of game play on everyone else. People pay their subs, they can play the way they like, if you dont like 1v1 or 8v8 then dont do it, but why do you want to ruin it for those that do?

 

[Red HATred]

As someone who generally doesn't like IRC I'd say there is nothing wrong with 2 people, or 2fg of people arranging to meet at a certain place at a certain time for a fight. In fact if that's how they can guarantee they get to enjoy the game in the way they like then I think it's a positive thing. As long as both people/groups are genuinely fighting (i.e. it's not a rp farming session) then it's fine. Besides, if you say arranging it on IRC is wrong, what about people who also know each other irl - you're saying they can't arrange to fight when sat next to each other either? It's essentially no different. Even from a "game concept" point of view, there is nothing wrong with arranged fights (arranged duels/battles have always taken place) - as long as the outcome isn't predetermined. Seems to me you are wanting everyone to play the game according to your own ideal.

ok, ppl that know each other in Real life.; will know as mature ppl that doing certain things would be against the spirit of the game.. that is defined by GOA as : cros realming , is not allowed.. end
That does not mean ppl can't talk all evening about the game, mechanics, stats, damage capes. technical data sheets, whatever... but saying: "let's meet at 15000 30800 emain to test stuff... is farming rps.. and against the spirit. not only imo oppinion, but also according to GOA.

so if that would be between one, person, two persons, or two full groups... they may have had their fun... but it is the start of the end of what RVR is about.
The Word get's out...because some ppl just can't keep their tramp shut if they did somethign naughty uke:

This would lead to ppl will doing the same...maybee those ppl aren't so "with good intentions minded" and abuse that , no more rules... no more spirit... end RVR concept... dead Excalibur.

 

[Red HATred]

ironfart, dont you realise you are just as bad as the IRC twats when you try and impose your style of game play on everyone else. People pay their subs, they can play the way they like, if you dont like 1v1 or 8v8 then dont do it, but why do you want to ruin it for those that do?

i don't impose MY gaming style to ppl, i just repeat what the RVR concept is about and where certain other types of fun can be experienced. As in RVR and PVP servers...
Yes, ppl pay their subs and agreed to the basic rule set given by the EUla and GOA.... all off the above mentioned things are violations. If you don't agree, don't sign the damn thing.
I don't ruin the fact that ppl have an occasional one on one mate,.... the problem is, thx to the exposing of those cross realmers there is no longer a way to tell the difference between a genuine one on one , or an organized one, no matter what ppl say. end

atm this present moment i'm playing a Gargoyle (tm>mine) in-game.. do you really think i flame every Full group i see passing at my feet? Pff that is not my intention... most of those i see moving out have about 6-10 kill then die... release... and they pass my feet again.... all i hope is that those groups passing are having honest fun.

i'm glad that there is a Goa gm active in RVR.. i've seen one in there almost every day i think.. if it ain't for long, his prescence was felt (/sarcasm)

 

[Red HATred]

I've never done that and never will because I completely agree that it is wrong. If I get pm'ed by lowbies (flagged as an advisor), I give them help where I can. I do however realise that this sort of thing goes on and it's another thing which shouldn't happen but it does and I'm sick of it too (get some of those comments myself too). I just didn't write that in my original reply because that wasn't what was being discussed at the time

hehe, i can recall Pitspawn starting to drewl when he saw you on your cleric i think it was... that was in old emain, and even then you even joined pick up group from time to time. which indeed is quite neat.. not really elite like.. open.

 

[snoepie]

i can't find my popcorn

 

[Vodkafairy]

i can't find my popcorn

you can have some of mine but i charge, quality thread means high popcorn price

 

[Marc]

mm lets do a guild-beer-contest?

every guild sends 8 members


tho i have a small feeling synergy will win it (hi marc!)

haha hi calo. not really a beer man. Stella, Jack Daniels, champagne and brandy is all i drink.

 

[Gear]

This is getting better day by day! Can we have a sticky please?