fao ironheart and zorbas

[Marc]

I'm very much fed up of people being called 'leet' just because they have an opposing view of what fun is.

WHat about the higher percentage of DAoC players who are fed up at being called noob, retard, random, <insert latest irc putdown for casual player> just because they dont want to play the game the same way as the gank groups? Horses for courses mate.

 

[Eemma]

I'm starting to feel sorry for this guy :X

 

[Belomar]

Wow, I even got a mention in this pergamon guy's post.

 

[Vodkafairy]

WHat about the higher percentage of DAoC players who are fed up at being called noob, retard, random, <insert latest irc putdown for casual player> just because they dont want to play the game the same way as the gank groups? Horses for courses mate.

havnt seen him ever do that, and yeah its the same thing, nobody said otherwise

 

[Yunio]

lmfao irl... get a clue please ? isn't it quite contradictory to say im a fg zerger ?, most of the ppl i fight are equal/higher RR than me (so they must hax according to ironfart) groove, NP, RR, DH etc. only recently lower rr ppl have started roaming as fgs, and because i fight them it makes me an elitist zerger ? seriously gimme whatever the fuck you're smokin cos i want some

<sends kerith to a random coffeeshop in amsterdam>
there you go!

What amazes me is that when either horners name or Ironhearts name is mentioned the threads draw so many replies

Didnt even get what the fuzz was all about in the beginning anyway

 

[Kerith]

the fuss is about ironheart being a fuckin idiot as usual

 

[Red HATred]

@ Red_HATred a couple of questions:

1) Do you not like 1v1? It can be rather exciting, even if you loose.

2) Only a small percentage of the RvR population uses IRC. From what I can tell (I don't use it all that often, but sometimes it's nice to chat after a fight that was fun/frustrating) pre-arranged duels are not as common as you appear to think.

3) Are you yanking our chains, or do you really believe what you write:



It most cetainly is possible to switch BG very quickly, if your casters co-operate. A macro like /send &t >>> bodyguarding, stand still <<< help a lot (as does voice comms). There's a couple of friars about who are very good at it. Perhaps you should talk to them....



Like I said above, some IRC cross-realming does happen, but it's nowhere near as common as you think.

You imply that the Realm Vs Realm aspects of DAoC is the "serious fight", and that anything else has no value. I guess you've never expirenced any good 1v1 or 8v8, you've missed out, I feel sorry for you - since it's a very competitive and (mostly) enjoyable aspect of the game.

As for all the keep warfare stuff, well I don't know if you've noticed but DAoC doesn't do that very well in comparison to say Planetside, and a lot of players don't really like it. Mythic's designers are definatly not all wise and all knowing, so sticking religiously to the "party line" is a little silly if it sucks.



But it's not that simple. Ever heard of dis-information?



Assuming that's some sort of siege related fight, you must get awfully bored, especially when you get "farmed" by gank groups. Besides "aimless roaming" definatly sharpens your skills (and RR), so you can be much more effictive when you fight for your realm (witness what DH used to do to the alb zerg).



I don't particularly like the current RvR situation, it's heavily zerged by mids whith minimal alb presence (a shame, I don't know why they don't show them selves more).



You keep on saying that, I don't really get why. To me realm is pretty superficial, we're all gamers at the end, and a certain level mutual respect makes the game more pleasent. (That's why people hate Horner so much, as he must win at ALL costs and use his emote macros)



I think you're jealous of success and wish to tar peoples names with imaginary IRC conspircies, or what ever else you can dream up.


Mmm, well as somone who has soloed extensivly as a visible I do tend to agree that stealthers attract those with "loose morals", however some of the stealthers are really nice guys, and don't "add" or generally screw things up for their realm mates.



Historically that's not the case at all. There where many instances of solo combat (sometimes to first blood, sometimes to submission, sometimes to the death) between knights and officers. War is a pretty horrific thing, and it's much better if two champions fight rather than whole armies.



Groove spare my VW quite a lot when I solo. Do you think they're weak?



Oh we see your point, we just don't agree with it.



What does enjoying something other than mass realm vs realm conflict have to do with maturity? Surely you are the one who needs to grow not us, as we 're able to think outside of the box.

i'll reply while i drink my demanded coffee /em goes hyper

1)If i would be looking for some one on one, it would not be in this universe here. I would try to get something going on a server that is suited for it , as in PVP server. If i have a duel in here it will be because i was running alone at that moment and someone else was accidentaly in the same area , he deceides to engage me. end.
No i don't look for duels, i don't care for duels, i don't need to measure my competence toward other player because this concept here is about warbands, battlegroups fighting it out. And if i focus on one player/enemy it will be like i had a little while back, i knew a former alb, fedaykin, was roaming with his group in Hadrians, i singled him out of that group (as a stealther i can do that) and he was the only target i shot. (even gave em the killing blow )

2) the vast majority of dedicated players use IRC, it is a verry decent chat medium that has been running.... well, for as long as i know it.
Pre arranged duels.. or full group fights: Ever since that intelligent person deceided to create fun for others in albion fronteer, threads in here have been flooded with remarks about x-realming. If one is a good reader and is able to deduct from written words what the msg is... there are a WHOLE LOT of ppl whom have/had cross realm dating experiences. And they still occure, because to some ppl , rvr has become a DRAG , only motivation left is that number rr10.. spirit, dead, compare it to zombies humping forward to their next chunk of flesh.

3) bg , i ain't janking your chain ^^ , i personally have no character that has the BG skill, all i have is a toon that has protect, guard. All info and feedback i have is the info i gain through experience. In game, ppl telling stuff, and some minor info on some websites about skills, which is mostly verry vague.

In my career as defender of my realm, i have had the pleaser of beeing in a GODLY full group with KOTL for a long time. We never neglected our fellow guildies on that matter though, but some ppl slept more then we did
And yes, we have had encounters, like when , Pitspawn , ocia, Century, myself, Fedaykin, nerf, and a healer(don't shoot me forgot name) had a FG encounter where we kicked Jack herar arse, knowing that fed was the only rr9 toon we have had decent full group fights but we never searched for them beyond the boundaries of the Log in screen.

Concerning your comparison to planetside. Daoc does VERRY wel in warfare,but at this present moment General morale (the feeling, not the person ) is at an all time low, and mostly the best fun is only to be found in your own guild, how small it may be. There are a lot off ppl that still look beyond that little problem, they still try get the spirit up again.
I personally would feel joye and happy if i would see that , for exemple, all alliance borders, all guild borders would melt away so we all could have one UNIT. The names, the words don't need to disspear, the game needs XX number of guilds to claim etc.... but the "mental" meaning should become vague.

(about siege : i just get a kick out of combining stuff in a siege... like when i see the troops moving to the top of their tower, when they notice the gate is almost down, for the so called "last stand", i just loooove to get that trebuchet up and nuke the roof top to interrupt to so called "elite" roof campers. Interrupting all there is and making sure all is used in the first blast. this ending the battle for that tower a lot faster, i don't do it for the rp's i do it cause it is.... well, kinda brilliant imo ;-))

Those ppl that got caught for cross realming have demoralized a lot off ppl. They "thought" they acted for the "greater good", as they call it , while they have only broken the thrust in the given system some ppl had. Who will give confidence to those that lost it? How will we know if those IRC users will not push the limits even furhter? How will we know that a fight at hand is a genuine PLAN, not some colaborated sceem... you tell me. A 3 day bann doesn't scare ppl away nor does it mean they will stop doing it, it just makes them more carefull.

About the competitive side, i'd much rather see a team (albion) enjoye the competitiveness, instead of a player ( or a couple ) from the team (e-peen gangs). If you seek personal satisfacion in competing to a personal level, The PVP server has been created just for that cause. Not this rvr server, sorry, NO!!!

you know how it felt when a bunch off ppl completed a mastery level... ppl cheering from joye.. well that same thing should be found in rvr, for all there.

On the other hand no one will forbid you to venture solo... why should they.. but... firstly, in a friendly zone it would be logical, in a total hostile environment it should be considered suicide (lose from assassins etc-)
Nor will ppl forbid groups of exploring beyond their own borders. With knowledge gained by experience (not by IRC) they will know what they can find out there, and here to be for something.

and about beeing jealous... i'll ask you as well, what should i be jealous about?
about not beeing (actively) in that IRC dating side? About measuring my skills?
TO me, a base of jealousy would be: if you have something up your sleeve, you will become jealouse. i have nothing up my sleeves tbh
Game contents wise, why be jealous, whatever i want, i get, end call me spoiled, it is a fact. wherever i go , i get what i want with or without the help of my realm mates. If i want to compete on realm rankings... i would go to a pvp server and kick arse.


About groove...

according to rumours(info) i pick up in albion, they are the saddest buch of cheating fucks there are. I even picked up they will test all exploits to the limit to see how far they can push things, dragging, walk through graphical bugs, just genereal exploits. (i don't know the truth )

About that war principle with chief dueling instead of armies..

why don't you let Mythic add the possibilty to change keep statusses over a simple duel between two heroes then... why don't they let Milesgates open over a duel between the realm kings (maybee even do an election, king of the month or something, so he has the key to the power relics) it ain't the case here, is it. In here the "struggle for power and glory" is based upon MASS battles with a MASS off ppl fighting to obtain that goal. Not about a full group running to gain 20k rp's.

if mythic would make the functionality of the relics even bigger, as in more consequences to a realm , maybee it would wake the fighting spirit. (like locking out certain parts of the PVE part of the game if you lack some relic fe.) Or on the other hand, if the remove them, well.. they can't ,otherwise we have a PVP server, don't we.

what is has got to do with maturety?
In my oppinion, accepting something... in our case, the topic of Excalibur RVR beeing: RVR struggle for power and relics, not for 20k rp's an evening to sleep tight.
This by using vast armies (consisting of different types of troops) communicating, helping the bigger goal (just saying that full groups patrolling(gank groups) do have a function in this whole thing) to conquer and make the enemy suffer.
(out of this game: those ppl aren't my enemies btw, that is just in here, you know/// the line...)
I know this is a game, and it has it's dead moments, ppl sleep, well most of us, only hibbies don't, when we look at AC raids But if the struggle for defending your own territory would be at a high, there would be rvr action 24/24 7/7. I mean if hibs would , in a matter of speaking, LIVE to defend hibernia and keep the enemy out...it would be moving , always would be.
Same goes for Mids, Albs are more spirited comapred to other realms imo, last couple of days, if hibs try to annoye us in our fornteer, id only takes about a couple of minutes to kick their arses back to their mushrooms.

 

[censi]

very rarely do i use IRC but if I did arrange a duel I would pick a better location that the main road between bolg(alb) and crauch, right next to you and your grapple thing.

Gave him the /bows and /becks and unstealthed right next to you. Just assumed you couldnt be so desperate to attack like that, even though ofc you are well in your right to do so. anyway nps, got away safely.

your posts highlight your persona and players like you heavily contribute to this Daocwide consensus that albs are morons (not saying that consensus is accurate, but christ you aint helping the cause)

when I attacked you both first time I had no expectation to win but the road had been quiet for a while so I just thought fook it (knew you were BG'd didnt thing he would be lame enough to grapple V one stealther bold enough to have a crack a 2 strong visual classes, anyway ofc he is quite within his rights to do this, nothing wrong with this). Worst that can happen is you loose. Loosing is part and parcel of daoc. Saviour the good times, laugh off the bad.

anyway all good fun, nice read this post. see you on the battlefield!

 

[wittor]

About groove...

according to rumours(info) i pick up in albion, they are the saddest buch of cheating fucks there are. I even picked up they will test all exploits to the limit to see how far they can push things, dragging, walk through graphical bugs, just genereal exploits. (i don't know the truth )

well to be honest if you don't know the truth then don't talk about it, instead of talking some trash about a guild on some forum . do you see them saying shit about you're guild ...? just play the fucking game

 

[elbeek]

well to be honest if you don't know the truth then don't talk about it, instead of talking some trash about a guild ... and just play the fucking game

Exactly.

Nobody really gives a flying fuck what Ironfart thinks, maybe he should remember that.

 

[Red HATred]

your posts highlight your persona and players like you heavily contribute to this Daocwide consensus that albs are morons (not saying that consensus is accurate, but christ you aint helping the cause)

QUOTE]


look last lines to you...

there is one thing Albion players are NOT.. that is morons.

the real morons out there are those that go : " ah well what the feck" and commit an obviously stupid act. (i think i have read that remark somewhere)
Suicide is .. a extremely stupid act, ain't it?
I do laugh at that cartoon i once saw on DAOCaddict it was, i think.
About that person in a group, going: hey guys i have to log... just running into his death.. and something else.., well look it up.
And in this game it is just a part of it, i know, just hopping on 50 mobs , enemies .. fast exit, bye bye.
Well , after using your phase shift, or what is it called, it was more then obvious that you were trying to act and fight us. You just made an IDIOTIC miscalculation, from which you now can say... blablablabla i knew he had blablabla , i knew blablalbal... No you did not know, you were blinded by that frigging gorgeous looking Avalonian and you couldn't resist the tempatation to try and get em well, you failed, cause you lack competence..

as i said.. you baught your 9 rr..

 

[Red HATred]

Exactly.

Nobody really gives a flying fuck what Ironfart thinks, maybe he should remember that.

:worthy: :worthy:

 

[rure]

And yes, we have had encounters, like when , Pitspawn , ocia, Century, myself, Fedaykin, nerf, and a healer(don't shoot me forgot name) had a FG encounter where we kicked Jack herar arse, knowing that fed was the only rr9 toon

I strongly doubt that.

 

[Icebreaker]

Can't we all just be friends? :/

 

[Red HATred]

Can't we all just be friends? :/

lol

no we can't it is war!!!!


in a rl pub, nps , i'll buy you one

 

[LordjOX]

And yes, we have had encounters, like when , Pitspawn , ocia, Century, myself, Fedaykin, nerf, and a healer(don't shoot me forgot name) had a FG encounter where we kicked Jack herar arse, knowing that fed was the only rr9 toon

funnyboi move along

 

[elbeek]

:worthy: :worthy:

when you coming to the UK so you can buy me a beer?

 

[Red HATred]

I strongly doubt that.

yeah we had, i can even tell you the spot..

old fronteer, we had it in the center part of Hibbie land... we were on TS, just having a ball... we were about to leave the gorge running from emain towards that part, when we encounterd that fg ...

a splendid root from fed... debuffing, assisting... can still hear it, lol, was fun and tbh, my first team-speak fight,
got target, assist... assist, ocia assist.. pit, iron assist.. blamblamblam... Fed went, damn, guys, we just kicked jack herar arse..

was neat and to me a memorable fight.. honest, not planned. we were even on our way to assist ppl that were getting a keep land inwards.

 

[Red HATred]

when you coming to the UK so you can buy me a beer?

who knows, i would have to learn how to drive at the left side of the road... because i cba to use public transport towards and in Uk.. but if i would feel up to it.. maybee this summer if i wouldn't know what to do


would also take care of the fact that we drink real beer tbh.. not that cheap horsepiss you guys sell over there

 

[elbeek]

would also take care of the fact that we drink real beer tbh.. not that cheap horsepiss you guys sell over there

LOL, real beer aint white you know

Driving on the left side is over rated btw

 

[Red HATred]

LOL, real beer aint white you know

Driving on the left side is over rated btw

http://www.sintsixtus.be/eng/index2.html


click the brewery pick ur brand

 

[Kerith]

yeah we had, i can even tell you the spot..

old fronteer, we had it in the center part of Hibbie land... we were on TS, just having a ball... we were about to leave the gorge running from emain towards that part, when we encounterd that fg ...

a splendid root from fed... debuffing, assisting... can still hear it, lol, was fun and tbh, my first team-speak fight,
got target, assist... assist, ocia assist.. pit, iron assist.. blamblamblam... Fed went, damn, guys, we just kicked jack herar arse..

was neat and to me a memorable fight.. honest, not planned. we were even on our way to assist ppl that were getting a keep land inwards.

but fg vs fg using teamspeak is for lame rr8 + cheaters apparently ?

 

[elbeek]

http://www.sintsixtus.be/eng/index2.html


click the brewery pick ur brand

There is a small home brewery not far from where I live. They sell a pint called " Baz's bonce blower", its about 8.2 and 2 pints you will fancy lassie

 

[Red HATred]

but fg vs fg using teamspeak is for lame rr8 + cheaters apparently ?

could you pls at least read all


/quote: we were even on our way to assist ppl that were getting a keep land inwards.

 

[Vodkafairy]

(about siege : i just get a kick out of combining stuff in a siege... like when i see the troops moving to the top of their tower, when they notice the gate is almost down, for the so called "last stand", i just loooove to get that trebuchet up and nuke the roof top to interrupt to so called "elite" roof campers. Interrupting all there is and making sure all is used in the first blast. this ending the battle for that tower a lot faster, i don't do it for the rp's i do it cause it is.... well, kinda brilliant imo ;-))

and because people like to play the game in other ways, even though they don't offend people in any way, but just try to have fun it makes them elitist cheating crossrealming ebaying scum?

you make me sick, you really do. i think its fun to find my own fights, especially now i play bard again and lead groups i try to prevent getting caught in other people's fights as much as i can. when people add i will try to back off because it takes away every bit of challenge. sometimes the hibs will die, well too bad, im not there to make the game fun for casualplayers that take away my fun in return

everyone should do what they think is fun, and aslong as they aren't breaking the rules or play to grief other people intentionally, you should let them.. i really have no words for your pathetic childish insults

as people said, just play the game and stfu about things you obviously don't have a single clue about

 

[Calo]

mm lets do a guild-beer-contest?

every guild sends 8 members


tho i have a small feeling synergy will win it (hi marc!)

 

[Sollers]

a splendid root from fed... debuffing, assisting... can still hear it, lol, was fun and tbh, my first team-speak fight,
got target, assist... assist, ocia assist.. pit, iron assist.. blamblamblam... Fed went, damn, guys, we just kicked jack herar arse..

was neat and to me a memorable fight.. honest, not planned. we were even on our way to assist ppl that were getting a keep land inwards.

just imagine doing this every day :eek2:

what's so bad about FG vs FG RvR then?

 

[Lireihuan]

can ppl line up and argue with him 1 by 1? it's hard for him to concentrate and flame back simultaneously when all 3 realms are pointing at him. I personally think his reply quality will boost to a higher level if we try that, hence more (ridiculously) entertaining.

 

[Jaem-]

Red_Hat, answer my Q please!

Whats the difference between having a 1v1 game of Tennis and a 1v1 in game like DAoC? Are all that play sports stroking an e-peen too?

Some people might even arrange a game of Tennis over an irc channel, the shame of it, ruins the whole sport.

 

[Mirt]

Concerning your comparison to planetside. Daoc does VERRY wel in warfare,but at this present moment General morale (the feeling, not the person )

No in comparsion to Planetside, DAoC does mass combat/keep takes very poorly. Here's why:

1) Firstly while DAoC's engine has definatly improved over the years, it still does not handle several hundred players well. While not perfect planetside is considerable better during a zerg.

2) Everyone in planetside has ranged attacks. This is definatly NOT the case in DAoC, and a keep take is excruciatingly boring for tanks and support.

3) There are masses of LoS bugs in DAoC, now in open RvR these are mostly a non-issue, however they rear their ugly head anywhere near a hill let alone a keep. Also due to game mechanics it's possible to nuke/shoot anyone who lags through a wall (and you will), which is very annoying. In addition to collision meshes having holes in them, for some unknown reason LoS in DAoC is done from the feet!?! This can make it rather tough for defenders to get a spell off if they're behind castelations (sp?).

4) Sieges used to be too short in DAoC, now they take too long. I really don't fancy sieging a keep ALL DAY.

Now you may wonder why I don't play Planetside instead of DAoC, well I actually play both, however DAoC is by far and away the best small scale PvP game I've found, and I've tried a lot of games. Solo, Duos/trios with a bard, and 8v8 are all great fun.

Incidentally, for the most part I really couldn't care less what keeps you take, and what relics you take. Have your fun, it's no skin off my back. Feel free to zerg, I'll just avoid you, there's always small scale action on the perifary of any big fight - and imo that's where the fun is.

As for the "greater good" give me a break, this is a computer game not a charity. I play this game for fun, and because I have friends here (incidentally Voice coms >>>>>>>> text for making friendships).