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Gordonax

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noaim said:
And while Killgordes raid was great, lets face it, there was no guardspam (I think), no zergicons, no prewarning by taking towers, no porting if no tower was taken, and no burning keep when it was attacked. Today its possible to chose if you wanna come, because you know exactly if the relic is under attack or not.

iirc (and it WAS a long time ago!) it was post-gaurd spam. The clever bit was simply making us think that he was just knocking over keeps "again" rather than doing a relic raid. It didn't take a lot of people, it just took persistence and the will to take keeps - and not try for the relics - for days on end.

Total respect for the man, he knew the way to do it. Ditto Ardamel and Nol, and others along the years.
 

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UriZeN said:
if ppl dont whine the only thing left in this forum will be gratz posts.So feel free to whine about ppl whining :twak:

But its just so depressing to see so many (hopefully grown) men and women (yes they actually do exist in online gaming!) fight over a game :p

I bet if their was a convention and you meet up with DAoC peeps and you meet with someone you hated in game but didnt know their ingame char you would get along dandy with them... untill ofc you did find out who they were ingame.
 

Gordonax

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UriZeN said:
i didnt say only 1 realm has spies i just rendered ur point invalid!

Errr... no.

If you know the plan in advance, even with much smaller numbers, you can stop it - I was once on a login raid on Hib which failed for exactly that reason. Amazing what a few well placed LuriBombs can do while people are logging in.. :)
 

noaim

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Gordonax said:
The clever bit was simply making us think that he was just knocking over keeps "again" rather than doing a relic raid.

Yes but what alb will see Boldiam on fire and think "its prolly just another keeptake, lets keep pve´ing"? :)

It could prolly work tho, but it would be alot harder, since you would know exactly when we are on the keep with the relic thanks to flames. Personally I think flames from keeps should be removed, guardspam is enough, at least then it requires some realm communications to gather the defense.
 

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Sabu said:
It wasn´t a secret that Garba used to play in pryd BG, but none here thought that "you played albion" could include those lvl 24 chars.

Edaemos go get some sleep imo

Then why when i said that he had played albion did he blatently deny it, he denied it for 8? 9? pages until someone pointed out he had a lv24 thurg, can't be bothered to repeat what i said to garb but it shows that hes willing to make stuff up as and when it suits him.

Ill leave it at that, as for sleeping, i have a law case to be submitted tomorrow and it needs finishing :)
 

Gordonax

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noaim said:
Yes but what alb will see Boldiam on fire and think "its prolly just another keeptake, lets keep pve´ing"? :)

If you do it every night for a week, all of them.

Albs = sheep, remember (allegedly) :)
 

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Olvoair said:
eadamos has managed to convince me that someone stole his toys when he was in kindergarten (wont speculate how long ago that was). dont know what else he has convinced me of.

cheers.

Based on? feel free to elaborate.
 

noaim

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Gordonax said:
If you do it every night for a week, all of them.

Albs = sheep, remember (allegedly) :)

See add-on on previous post, and I doubt they would, seeing the relic is in Boldiam ;)

Anyways, I am off to get a copy of catacombs, need to start learning how to play a warlock effectively so I can get the first warlock FAO-post ;)

Was great discussing with you tho, nn :)
 

UriZeN

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Gordonax said:
If you do it every night for a week, all of them.

Albs = sheep, remember (allegedly) :)

same thinking about ac raids if u do it for a week albs will get bored of amasing a zerg!

yeah right.... :twak:
 

Meril

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Gordonax said:
Actually, I listen to everyone who makes sense, no matter what their realm.

In your case, /dismiss. Please come back when you have an opinion worth anyone's time to read.

I see m8 .. ill see if i can rephrase my first comment just for you.

Why would you think we(hibs and mids), care about u not being able to defend your relic vs a wellplanned relicraid. If you aint up at 7 in the morning to fucking bad for you. This game is fucking what you make of it, and if u choose to get up at 6 in the weekends to balance out the part you find most fun in the game that is your choice, and u are allow'd to cause YOU pay your own subs. Just like you dont have to ask for permisson to zerg a keep with your 256 mates today. Maybe hibs was sleeping cause 20:00 isent prime time for them

ffs i almost forgot. Synergy Deathcrew, HAH!

This was by the way generated by you whining about npc's having all the defending cause you was sleeping. So nn etc or are u guarding the relic so u can get to defend this time ?
 

Maoni

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Enli said:
aint gonna whine about that u did

but aye numbers were a bit too much for loads of people to have any fun in it
lag was terrible, this is a whine to goa/mythic
got loads of rps of u guys and got into the top 20 with my guild voidie together :)

nice experience, was fast and well coordinated but attacking 1 keep aint that very tactical anyhow

was it more fun to kill npc guards around 6-7 in the morning?
 

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eggy said:
Grats to Albs, was a good raid. Wasn't with the main zerg on the keep so I don't know much about that, but thanks to hibs for streaming fg after fg inc from border keep to the Synergy deathcrew.

Was a zerg vs an unprepared few, hibs didn't stand a chance, and that is a bit sad :( Hope your numbers improve, and you can put up a good fight to get it back!

Eggy

This post made me laugh.

Eggy new leader of Dem Albie Wannabies ROFL well got admire you nerve How Big and Strong you are killing all them Hibs rushing to a keep to defend a Relic Wooo you Big Hard Man :wanker:

Well Eggy of the Synergy Deathcrew you never will and will never have the Skills of Dem Hibbies Dream on m8'ey.

Soulbow

Synergy Deathcrew rofl :wanker:
 

Harthai

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Gordonax said:
Indeed, you make my point for me. Post 1.71, things were supposed to get much easier for lower population realms in relic raids. Yet did our Hibbeh friends bother to try a prime time raid in 1.71? Nah....


What the hell gives you the right to demand to try AT LEAST a primetime raid. Were you in the Cg that was contemplating the idea of a raid?WE
knew the consequences of an AC raid ,the whines ,the aftereffects .WE knew that albs would sooner or later retaliate with a force too big to handle.WE knew are forces even on primetime were to small to even try for a single keep.Ask Jokkee who opened the Cg and everyone else in it WE knew you were gonna whine ,and bitch ,and moan ,and groan.WE knew and WE pondered about the conclusion of a primetime raid and WE knew the effects of an AC raid .WE knew not you.

You somehow think that we immediatly jumped to the idea of doing an AC raid. We were all reluctant to it ,but fact is fact it's the only way we can do it. Somehow you seem to believe your so much more noble because you didn't do an AC ,well look in the RvR discussion and you'll find a thread about a FAILED AC raid by the albs. So all of a sudden you decide to primetime with 250 + people and think you deserve an honour medal.

Someone here posted the population count at the time or so. Albs 1050 or so Mids approx. 300, Hibs 225. Wanna tell me how we are supposed to primetime with those figures?

Next time you say "fuck you hibs" because of an AC raid ,consider what the other side was thinking before mouthing off like some of your "brilliant" and oh so "intellectual" peers.
 

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I like de dude that posts that alb have 1100 people, mids 300 and hibs 200...since when did the population change even more to 70% 20% 10%...I also wonder how he go the numbers...
 

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failing the defend a keep with 150 while the enemy has only 1,6x more ppl means you suck
 

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doesn't matter if it was skill or not.
doesn't matter if albs did it at 6 am or not.
doesn't matter if albs used tactics or not.
doesn't matter if hibs were outnumbered or not.
war is war.

albs got the relic, that's all that matters. nice defence by hibs, but just wasn't enough this time. congratulations albs.
 

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so much whine, even from mids.

Even the E Peens are comming out for comparison HAHAHA.

Someones Egos are hurt
 

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Summary of this thread:

Edamos and marc chasing flamebaits without any real success, aussie doing his thing.

Give glottis back, hes more fun :(
 

Red HATred

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a real shame that the game became near unplayble at the Relic keep.

effect off, shadows off, almost was playing a C64 game again :eek7:
still it was nice to see that a person can get this ammount off ppl motivated in going for the gold in Prime-time.
This also was a chance for some casual gamers to witness what a decent rr was about.

Hibs and mids are verry good in doing Alarm clock raids. This does require a whole lot , and decent, leadership to complete as well. Beeing able to motivate ppl in getting out off their beds to get that things is also worth a /Bow.

I think there is one general msg here from Albion to the other realms: "Don't f00k with us, because we'll eat ya raw." Albion has verry potent organizers. Hibs and Mids have casual organizers and that doesn't work as intended. Albs can be a bit more relaxed, mids and hibs can't.

The main reason for most problems may be the underpopulation. But, in Albion ppl have something like a relic-raid alert. AS seen at Boldiam a couple of days ago, 40+ mids, no albs, a Relic alert was called... you got swarmed.

Personally i would advice the underpopulated realms to become organized even more. Beeing underpopulated + keeping in mind that 10% off those players are farmers in pve, only makes things worse for all.

Mids and especially Hibs really do need a 24 hrs relic watch, patrol. If they want to keep them. This is one off the utmost boring things to do , but it is needed, if they want to maintain power and the upper hand on their most potent weapons, their magic or their strength. A relic raid alert should become like drill for those realms;.. alarm is sounded, ALL logg their local character and defend.
This all sounds verry freaky, but this is the only way they will be able to deal with something like last night.

And one more thing. Personally, i think that in a defence situation, Defending a keep, looking at all the tools at hand, it should at least be possible to handle a defence while outnumbered 1/3. It will only require a whole lot off knowledge and practice.

We have seen that mids and hibs do try.. they anticipate on certain situations (excluding the fact that cross-realming could be a reason). Like last night, while albs were fighting, mids were banging on our doors. Timing, and especially speed of getting it started was just a tad to slow because albs were there in time and able to whipe the enemy force. They had numbers, they just lacked a bit of speed.

This anticipation is something will have to become second nature to your realm. That would also lower the "outnumbering" whines. I do realize it is a fact, but it is not the main reason why things always turn out bad.


Let's hope that the add of beeing able to port to the coastel keeps will help you fellas a bit more.
But keep up the fight. And keep in mind... Albion fights back.. always..
Like a Brittisch bulldog.... don't make it pissed :) it get's nervous, starts drewling and will go for the throat :)



ps: posting organized PVE raids on a forum can give other realms the info on when to strike as well.
 

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Garbannoch said:
a fg of albs would even struggle to kill all the aggro mobs on the way to the relic... the relic will be back in hib (or even better mid) before your myrmidon army can redye their oceanus armour.

To think I actually respected you and Elwizardo for they way you lead and organise your army. Leadership is something sadly lacking in a lot of Albion raids with too many voices in CG trying to lead. Your post above just proves your an elitist with far too much time on your hands and no life outside of playing a computer games. Get a life mate!
 

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Hawkwind said:
To think I actually respected you and Elwizardo for they way you lead and organise your army. Leadership is something sadly lacking in a lot of Albion raids with too many voices in CG trying to lead. Your post above just proves your an elitist with far too much time on your hands and no life outside of playing a computer games. Get a life mate!

that just doesn't make sence at all :p
 

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Jergiot said:
im sorry, but hibs havent done _ONE_ serious primetime (cept VF's) attempt since we got NF. all they do is try and justify their bullshit AC raids cause they failed once. oh and give underpop bonus to mids, since hibs clearly have more active ppl.

u do know that dont make much sense right? when u add in brackets a pure contradition to a 'strong' statement...

so thats 1 primetime attempt and 2 morning raids in the ~10weeks we been playing NF, id say not bad for the realm with lowest pop. (considering 1.71 did just hit live and 1.70 RR-odds were *cough* bad)

@Garb, Edeamos #24234 scout also affirms your overpowered grps used to run with 2x 6sec bt synced! Its the most common weapon of the fustrated loser: imagination.



That been said, and me not getting past 2nd page xd Grts Albs well done!
 

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Nomans Land said:
But its just so depressing to see so many (hopefully grown) men and women (yes they actually do exist in online gaming!) fight over a game :p

I bet if their was a convention and you meet up with DAoC peeps and you meet with someone you hated in game but didnt know their ingame char you would get along dandy with them... untill ofc you did find out who they were ingame.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Well put.
 

TappiTheFriar

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Good work albions! Hibs cant say that they didnt see it coming ;) After 2 relic raids this was bound to happen. Good that there was someone to organize this and shame I wasnt there :/ .

We just took back what belonged to us ;) there shouldnt be that much moaning from any side. It was good that hibs took the relic in first place so 1 keeptake was enough for it. Be happy hibernias that you own all your own relics now. Lets not get greedy shall we not ;)

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Soulbow said:
This post made me laugh.

Eggy new leader of Dem Albie Wannabies ROFL well got admire you nerve How Big and Strong you are killing all them Hibs rushing to a keep to defend a Relic Wooo you Big Hard Man :wanker:

Well Eggy of the Synergy Deathcrew you never will and will never have the Skills of Dem Hibbies Dream on m8'ey.

Soulbow

Synergy Deathcrew rofl :wanker:

It's amazing how one post can trigger repressed childhood issues. We do not proclaim to be anything. We play for fun, run decent RVR full groups, stay away from zergs, and have a damn good laugh at the same time. We don't aim to be 1337 or or compare ourselves to any other guilds on the servers.

My point was said in jest, I was not 'we omgwtfpwningr0x'ing.

My post was a bad luck thread to the Hibs, who tried to defend but failed; it's a shame the numbers are so unbalanced but a game is a game.

Chill out now please.
 

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Aussie said:
failing the defend a keep with 150 while the enemy has only 1,6x more ppl means you suck

There werent 150 peps there, i joined late and when trying to get from dl the ailline was atleast 2fgs of random un grouped peps coudent get past the fg guarding there. then there was atleast 50+ peps at dl BBs, afk peps and so on
 

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