FAO: Everlast

[old.mattshanes]

6 healers is godmode x_X

 

[chiefbootknocka]

hehe go play a castergruppa

dats skill

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by chiefbootknocka
hehe go play a castergruppa

dats skill

Definetly in alb it is due to no instant cc.

 

[faderullan]

Originally posted by klavrynd
get two mincers and two clerics and you have godmode every 15 minutes = every fight if you need to port

Only me who thinks that's a little unfair?

Lol a group with 2 mincers godmode.

You shouldnt say things when you dont know anything tbh.

 

[klavrynd]

You shouldnt say things when you dont know anything tbh.

practice what you preach

support that can't be followed + godmode vs melee (hi spec af buff + bof, 50-60 dmg with some luck?) imo


the two mincers are there to get sos every 15 mins in case you didnt notice ?

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by klavrynd
practice what you preach

support that can't be followed + godmode vs melee (hi spec af buff + bof, 50-60 dmg with some luck?) imo


the two mincers are there to get sos every 15 mins in case you didnt notice ?

Clerity on h2h savages!!(stacks with their haste xD)

Clerity>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.spec af

I know, i seen h2h savages hit 1s spd or so, 9 times in a stun on excal which is what 9s?sigh spec af doesn't make much difference to be honest, it's really overated.Only of course if it's red spec af with mota 4+ which is rare as hell.

 

[Jenna.]

Originally posted by faderullan
Lol a group with 2 mincers godmode.

You shouldnt say things when you dont know anything tbh.

You should stop crying about how good mid are and how sucky alb are. If you dont enjoy the game then just quit and stop moaning like a little kid.

 

[Artemls]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Clerity on h2h savages!!(stacks with their haste xD)

Clerity>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.spec af

I know, i seen h2h savages hit 1s spd or so, 9 times in a stun on excal which is what 9s?sigh spec af doesn't make much difference to be honest, it's really overated.Only of course if it's red spec af with mota 4+ which is rare as hell.

I hit 40times/min with haste and clerity, problem is that not much time to use it in RvR

 

[faderullan]

Originally posted by Jenna.
You should stop crying about how good mid are and how sucky alb are. If you dont enjoy the game then just quit and stop moaning like a little kid.

Play the game if you want to have a opinion perhaps? And by all your talk here i wouldnt be surprised if you were "a little kid".

 

[Jenna.]

Originally posted by faderullan
Play the game if you want to have a opinion perhaps? And by all your talk here i wouldnt be surprised if you were "a little kid".

I play the game? By your talk in here you sound like someone taking this a bit too serious.

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

rar, spank him jenna!

 

[Edlina]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Definetly in alb it is due to no instant cc.

Yea because we all know insta aoe mezz in caster grps are like very uber mezzing those savages and mercs or whatever tanks are about for 2½ second (and no chance to remezz for 1 minutes) is really the way to go with CC.... Hib has 1 good insta CC, that's single target insta mezz and that's only to mezz main healer/sorc and tbh, that's not easy when you at exactly the same time have to aoe lull single lull aoe mezz and get the f*** out of the way from that 3 Savage/Merc train comming at you at mach 5/6 so you can have even a small chance to get end regain running in that fight... (not to mention unmezzing mezzed grp members (Hib grps only got 1 unmezzer...), keep interrupting enemy healers/casters during fight, and so on...)

Even if you meet them by surprise on top of a hill or whatever it's better to save mezzing and instead just try to interrupt their mezzing start end regain (which takes forever) and get away so you can land a normal mezz which might last for 15 seconds on the enemy tanks, if they don't have purge ready, or killed your group already...

 

[Penitent]

Originally posted by avonleah
Leave Severance be, it's very nice to see a hib guild doing rvr as often as they do !

Thankyou for that. Its nice to see someone appreciates what we're trying to do atm

 

[old.Hardbein]

Originally posted by Penitent
Thankyou for that. Its nice to see someone appreciates what we're trying to do atm

Aye its fun to see u guys getting harder to beat each time we meet ya Keep it up!

PS: we came back to fight ya tonight in HW, we were "roleplaying" in HW as usual and were sui'ing the second u came out of hpk. But u were all gone 10 mins later :/

We were gonna try kill u naked and with pointy-hats

 

[Penitent]

LOL, we saw you suicide, guessed you would come back when you saw us, so legged it to FS. We'd been farmed too often that night to do it again so took the easy way out (no honour! shame on us! etc)

Now, if we'd have known about the naked pointy hat thing...

 

[Ottar]

> Now, if we'd have known about the naked pointy hat thing...

No worries, some of us didnt have pointy hats anyway, so I later went and bought myself one. Till next time

Ottar

 

[succi]

When daoc is dead you will look back and cry at how pointless this debate is =]

 

[stunned]

I thought everyone knew by now Mid is easy mode. Everyone but a few and a random rr8 guildleader.

 

[zapzap]

Well I go play HIB sometimes to u know stunned

Took my lvl 46 bard got a lvl 45 druid a hero wardern and rest pbaes to emain, was like cruising around get a mess in and 6 sec later the mids where dead ( most have been gimps that was out)

Eclipse NP played the caster group well could beat any group or 2 if right situation , why cant hibs now ?

Hibs > albs
Albs > mids
Mids > albs

How I see it but not played alb much, so could be wrong

Zapsi

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by chiefbootknocka
vi måste stå upp för vår rätt
att pillra pung och slicka stjärt

Håber fandme du huske at børste tænder bagefter...og vaske hænder uke:


Btw Matts , Celerity sucks hard to use in RvR, too long cast time and uber crappy range

 

[tanq]

Originally posted by zapzap

Eclipse NP played the caster group well could beat any group or 2 if right situation , why cant hibs now ?

Zapsi

Think the problem for my grp is that non of our reg casters has MoC yet + we don't run 2 druid setup yet.

Will get there at some point, and hopefully be able to give you some better fights.

Still think those savages hit too hard tho.

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by tanq
Think the problem for my grp is that non of our reg casters has MoC yet + we don't run 2 druid setup yet.

Will get there at some point, and hopefully be able to give you some better fights.

Still think those savages hit too hard tho.

All i know is i dont like beeing a chanter when 2 savages /hug me hard..




ps. got chanter on excal. but as it must be the most boring char in the game i try to avoid playing it

 

[Penitent]

Originally posted by zapzap
Eclipse NP played the caster group well could beat any group or 2 if right situation , why cant hibs now ?

AFAIK, Eclipse were all of a decent RR and experienced RvRers when they started, giving them the main RA's and strategies needed to beat other Mid/Alb groups. Mid/Alb groups that are about now were probably not as practised and high RR as you are now. I would imagine that the fights were a bit fairer, you were all of equal RR, there were no lvl 50 Savages, and you all had a lot of fun (of which I'm very envious).

NP obviously rocked on mid/exc, they thought well about their group set-up well and used their previous RvR experience and decent playing skills to become a major force in Hib/Pry. They are an exceptional set of players and could probably go anywhere and make a success of RvR.

I can't speak for any other Hibs but as far as Severance are concerned we were all RR1-2 when we started and very inexperienced RvR wise. Ofc it is going to be extremely difficult for any new RvR Guild/Group to take on the likes of BO, MM, PE, Warders, etc. Severance have also had both of our original casters leave so have had to recruit 2 new casters meaning BAOD and MoC is not available on both yet still. MoC as we know is extremely important atm, especially against Savage groups.

We amble on getting 5-10k RPs a night off the occassional lower RR group Mids/Albs or helping take out the Alb zerg at HW, while you are probably getting a lot more. So therefore we will ALWAYS be playing catch-up. You only have to check duskwave to confirm this.

IMO, Severance don't have the player experience or RA's to compete in a 1fg vs 1fg situation atm with the best Mid/Alb Guilds. Our hope is that at some point we will be RR6-7 and your additional RA's/RP spread wont make that much difference any more. We would by this time hope to have the main RA tools and bit more in-the-field experience, and therefore be able to give you a bit more of a decent fight and some much needed competition.

 

[Penitent]

A couple more lame excuses I thought of while I was thinking about this over coffee.

We've never actually had a "mentor" or experienced RvRer in our Guild, except for Rtoo recently (who is on mini-vacation now btw - come back soon!). We've had to learn things the hard way - ie by getting killed over and over and learning from our mistakes and trying different things next time around. We've had no-one to tell us stuff like to kill the shammie first who is usually a kobbie with small shield, kill the BD first in the main BO group. We pick up snippets here and there from web-sites, other good players in Hib, etc but never a real "leader" who can advise us as we fight.

Another idea of ours was to run as maybe 8+4 until we get enough RA's/experience to be able to compete properly as just 1fg. IMO this would actually be a pretty fair fight for you guys too, much more fun on your part I would imagine, but as we know if we ever did this we'd be flamed to hell.

On a more positive note, and to give us SOME credit, we've been RvRing for about 3 months now, the founder members have gone from RR1 to RR5+, and we are at least lasting a bit longer in fights against the higher level Mid/Alb Groups. Hell, we even killed BO at amgE a couple of weeks ago when we got a lucky mezz on them as they came through the gates

Progress is being made, but don't expect decent Eclipse/NP type competition from Severance for another couple of months yet.

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by Penitent
We've had no-one to tell us stuff like to kill the shammie first who is usually a kobbie with small shield

Yes kill the shaman straigh away. And shamans are often large trolls with 2 handed swords or h2h weapons

 

[Cami]

Originally posted by Cush
Yes kill the shaman straigh away. And shamans are often large trolls with 2 handed swords or h2h weapons

First part = wrong, second is right!

(Dont give them too many clues! )

 

[Artemls]

Originally posted by stunned
I thought everyone knew by now Mid is easy mode. Everyone but a few and a random rr8 guildleader.

Who said Mid wasn't easy? People just seem to claim that Alb and Hib is impossible to play.

 

[faderullan]

Compared to mid it is

 

[tanq]

Originally posted by Cush
Yes kill the shaman straigh away. And shamans are often large trolls with 2 handed swords or h2h weapons

I allways jump on the first mezzed savage i see and start melee him..thats good right?

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by tanq
I allways jump on the first mezzed savage i see and start melee him..thats good right?

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