FAO Bif

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old.in'deyna

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lorloelfrololololfroroflrofl

sar stfu and try not to not post for at least 10 minutes:)

gl with the league
 
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old.denial

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OMFG

Who is this SAR bloke? has he actually ever played cpma seriously? reading thru this forum and the answers and so fourth to ??'s that ppl have posed and i see this SAR bloke making comments like " MAP10 - Too big? " and " Uneven teams permitted (IE: 5v4) " And this guy is gonna be runnin a Barrysworld league? hahaha good luck every1.

grief
 
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old.sansai

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erm

This is what I call solid reasons to support RA3 over CPMA :|
Is there any need for insults or anything like that ?
Sar is just saying things like they are imo, now if you like RA3 the way it is (with all its bugs and lacks and cheating easyness etc), well go for it, no problem, that's why we're wanting to run our own league, to let you play RA3 with the mod you chose, without bothering you anymore.
We consider we can't stand all the lacks and bugs etc of RA3, so as a consequence we will play RA3 with the help of CPMA promode 0.
And "stfu", "bloke", "idiot", etc, won't make RA3 any better than CPMA nor make you right or seem clever..
 
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old.xBaboon

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when of course, everyone loves waiting a week for a game to find for whatever reason their opponents can only get 4 players, meaning you either 1> forced to play 4v4 or 2> postpone/default.

Yeah, that's fun :clap:
 
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old.unc

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deyna wondering if u actually consider ur posts having any real point to them other than to show yourself up?

as i dont :) so please either grow up or stick to ra3 and leave us alone ta ;]

btw weve had this cpma vs ra3 discussion already on the relevant forum thread. Go post on that if u want to tell us how good ra3 is because of cpma's superior functions not here :]

unc :x
 
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old.Smash

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Ok, after speaking with the other BlackHaiL admins, HaiL will probably enter this league, based on the fact that the chances SavRA3L, BWRA3L, JRA3L and this one all running concurrently is a fucking slight one.

But have you lost the plot? After that famous thread asking whether or not BWRA3L should be CPMA or not, Fixer decides to stick with RA3, and you fuck off and want to start another league. Talk about support.

I can imagine your comments if people dont like a decision you've made in your league, and fuck off and start their own.

For the life of me, what's the point of thrashing the point about, and then cos it's not what you wanted, sodding off.

And all this about RA3 being so shit, buggy and having crappy netcode, ffs dont exaggerate, it aint that bad... not as good as CPMA granted, but it aint as shite as you bang on about. It certainly aint broken.

But anyways, back to my original point, if you do start the league, we'll prolly join it, as well as staying in the BWRA3L.
 
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Sar

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Er, Smash, if you'd actually been about throughout all the previous discussions over cpma/ra3, you'd already know that since Fix has decided to stick with RA3 for the BWRA3L, that people wanted a CPMA league run on BW. Hence why I offered to do it. And some people do think it's really that bad - otherwise why would the likes of X, Fury and Defiance quit the top flight of the BWRA3L?

Denial - Who are you exactly? Can't say I've ever heard of you, even if you do play for Induce :) If you don't know who I am, I suggest you ask your clanmates, as most of them know me :)

Deyna - S'matter, don't like the fact I might be right? :p

And ta, I already have skillz thanks :)

PS: That link is sooooooo old.
 
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Sar

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BTW: Ta NS, I shall have a look. Had a look at MAHQ last night, but fileplanet was being a bitch to d/l from as per usual... :(
 
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old.Smash

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You missed my point totally, which I expected. I did read the other threads, and it wasnt just directed at you for offering to do the league, the point is abandoning that league, which has had time and effort invested in it from Fixer, just cos you didnt like the outcome. Sorry, but I think thats bang out of order.

"We're not doing what I want to do, so I'm not coming. blub blub"

Fs, just play!
 
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Sar

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Hardly out of order though, if people genuinely prefer 1 mod over the other, why should they feel forced to play a mod they no longer like?

Ditto for me, I hate the way RA3 feels now, and much prefer CPMA. As do a lot of others, hence the league for it.

:)
 
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bigfoot

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Fixer's made a decision and i will support that, if there's enough interest for CPMA League then i will support that too. The two will not clash (even though Saturday would be the best time to do the league from my pov) and as far as i know BW will be the only place which supports both "types" of the arena game, which i think is a positive thing. If clans are going to drop out of the BWRA3L because of Fixeh's decision there is nothing i or him can do about it, but i would rather that these clans still have somewhere to play on BW than nothing at all.
 
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old.sansai

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Originally posted by SmashMouth
You missed my point totally, which I expected. I did read the other threads, and it wasnt just directed at you for offering to do the league, the point is abandoning that league, which has had time and effort invested in it from Fixer, just cos you didnt like the outcome. Sorry, but I think thats bang out of order.

"We're not doing what I want to do, so I'm not coming. blub blub"

Fs, just play!

Are you a fucking communist ? :)

FFS, please, please, allow me to play the mod I want to, allow me to want a CPMA RA3 league rather than one played under crt's buggy, broken, out of date, etc (even if that doesn't please you) thing.

Allow me to be no more able to stand crt's RA3 and to be more than willing to play RA3 under CPMA and all its wonderful options, enhanced physics and netcode, everything that we cannot hope to ever have with crt's RA3 (because it will NEVER be fixed nor updated).

I'll be a good boy if you do (hence let you play RA3 if this is your will, although I dislike it).
 
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old.unc

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Fix mad a decision that bwra3l would stick to ra3 as its mod and u cannot expect ppl to give up their free time to play something they no longer like, especially with cpm as an alternative.

I personally will not play in bwra3l for a3 but the clan has enough ppl in it that we can have a squad avail to play for us in it. I will however continue to admin for the league due to how well i get on with the admins for the league and will try to help its smooth running in every way i can (once these threads die off neway :) )

bw has the major uk leagues under its control and it would be ridiculous for it not to have what many consider to be the better alternative for the ra3 style of play. To not offer a cpm league would be foolish and so im glad sar has taken up the idea.

unc
 
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old.xBaboon

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Whole point of playing games in the first place is to have fun. If people think they would have more fun playing a different mod, what's so wrong with that?

The point of 'sodding off' is that there will most likely be a large enough group of teams who will want to play in a different league, and for heaven's sake don't try to make it look like it's personal. Of course everyone is grateful for fix's time and organisation, that goes without saying, but a lot of people want to play with a different mod now, and there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to. The whole point of a GSP in the first place is to provide people with somewhere to play the games they want to play.

When the world and his dog are running pay2play services, with prizes at stake, I for one will be glad to have the experience under my belt of a mod where cheating is almost non-existant.
 
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old.EatMe

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Ok I got a handle on this now. BlackHail - An RA3 Clan, are now known as (deep breath): BlackHaiL- An RA3 & CPMA ,RA3 that is not TDM or CTF , tho we do play CTFS (and prolly CTFS CPMA if we ever get the chance) ...but thats different Clan. Phew I thought that was getting confusing there.

I'm glad it never came to this with vanilla vs OSP, or VCTF vs 3Wave, or it could get really confusing, there'd be more leagues than players.

Personally I wasn't fussed whether BW went with CPMA or not for RA3, Fix made a decision and I respect that. For CPMA there is Savage and soon (hopefully) Jolt. Do we really need another league? It seems a bit like it has to be a BW CPMA RA3 League, as that way it maximises the "pissing on Fixer's patch coz he didnt do what we wanted" aspect.

HaiL will play in it coz it means that someone else organises our Sunday afternoon session rather than us spamming around for games, so thanks in advance for that anyway.
 
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old.Smash

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I was gonna reply to Sars last post last night, but it was a bit late for meh....:sleeping:, wish I had now tho.

Fair enough, you're right, people should be able to play what they want to, and xBaboon was right, I was seeing it in a 'personal' light I 'spose.

What I'm slightely worried about, and if I'd taken longer to compose my thoughts I'd have said, is 2 leagues playing what is essentially the same mod(with all its differences) is only going to water down an already sketchy attendance list. I'd imagine some clans will play in both leagues, with the rest of 'em playing in one or the other. I just think it's a damn shame that the lot of you dont commit to running 1, reliable, regular league. But as it's been said, the divide regarding RA3/CPM is too passionate for that to happen.

The optimist in me says: "Good, more games!"

The pesimist in me says: "Another default, what a wasted Sat/Sun afternoon."

There you go, hope that was less communistic for you, sansai. :p
 
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old.Smash

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Fuck up, shouldn't you be working? No wonder this country's grinding to a halt with forum spamming p00fs like you at the helm. :D
 
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Sar

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Originally posted by SmashMouth
I just think it's a damn shame that the lot of you dont commit to running 1, reliable, regular league. But as it's been said, the divide regarding RA3/CPM is too passionate for that to happen.

That's exactly it :)

Quite a few clans just don't like RA3 anymore, because of it's various well-documented shortcomings, and for those and other reasons prefer, and love playing CPMA.

As for do we need another league?

Hell yeah why not? I play CTF for XPd, and we play in BWCTF and Sav CTF, and would probably play in Jolts if they had a CTF league too :)

I play(ed) RA3 for PR^, and we only play in BWRA3 (just got unfairly relegated from Div 1), and PR^ are registered for the Jolt CPMRA league for whenever it starts, but not Savage, as some of the CPMRA team don't get good connects to Savage (diff story in CTF though, diff players).

People look on Barrys leagues as the "main" leagues, because of the general reliability of the servers, the well administered websites, the quality of the admins and league admins. So if any GSP should have a CPMRA league Barrys should be it.

Savage hasn't kicked off yet, and Jolts is on hold atm until they get a website sorted out so that may be a while.

I personally would like to play in all 3 CPMRA leagues going, because I love the mod, and play it most nights of the week when I'm online, which is something I haven't done since the early days of RA3.

I play about 20 hours of Q3 per week now, and half of that is CPMA, with the other half being CTF and an hour or two of Freezetag now and then.
 
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old.NightStrike

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The thing I would be worried about is that pro-CPMA clans such as ! who are staying in the bwra3l might drop out halfway through it to join Sar's league which he has already said will start later and therefore feck up the bwra3l with a lot of divisions only having about 4/5 clans competing.
 
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old.Smash

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Make u right NS, everyone knows that defaults are a problem anyway, without additional strain on teams showing like this.

I know the thread's been thrashed to fuck, but I reckon the scenario should be thrown up that Sar's BWCPMRA3L will happen, then ask all clans participating in the BWRA3L if they are going to stick or twist.

Maybe this could prevent defaults from happening.

OR, the outcome could be that theres only a handful of teams left in the BWRA3L, so it's forced to change?

I dunno, I'm slowly getting drunk.

:m00:
 
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old.[gX.POrN]

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wp Sar

like the topic says.... n1 Sar, hopefully with the vote goin the way it is, they'll be a BWcpmaPMzeroRa3 league around b4 too long... but er dont call it that hehe
 
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bigfoot

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Did someone say FreezeTag - /me looks at SAR and grins evilly.
 

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