Excalibur Hibernia Alliance.

[Mastade]

I dont think there is any chance that LA and CF alliance will be re-emerged tbh. because of 2 things.

1. The current leaders of CF alliance, are not the right leaders for the biggest alliance in hib. They have shown bad judgement and cannot handle things as some of the old leaders of the alliance did. There is a lack of respect for the leaders and that is probably why things ended up the way it did. I can show numerous screenshots of how the leader(s) handle things, but i dont want this to be a name-and-shame thread. I am actually quite glad you made this thread Domain.

2. New frontiers - As mentioned earlier by Brack i think, there is no need for the " /as fg mids at crauch" anymore, simply because of the /warmap, this was one of the great sides of CF alliance back in OF - secondly, the alliance would be great for ML announcements, but that is where people use this forum. That pretty much leaves the current CF alliance with no real use tbh.

The alliance would need to be reworked into a alliance where ppl could eg. ask for grps/grp members - buy/sell items, ask for help to do artis etc. - but i dont see that as an option for CF alliance. Mainly because the alliance would be too big, remember doing /gc who alliance back when A-R were still in the alliance and got like 60-70 members off peak time.

I wouldn't mind having a meeting between the alliances, but i doubt it would end up in a merge.

 

[Garbannoch]

it's probably the best as it is now: the people who tend to piss each other off are in different alliances: after all the purpose of an alliance is to create a platform of like-minded people that goes beyond guild boundaries and without mentioning specific guilds I think it is obvious that the 2 alliances are fundamentally different.

 

[Hestethun]

1st of all LA going to LA alliance was how it was in the start too , according to Infernos. I and i talked it over with old LA gms before i made it. Infernos etc. I was the one that made it. And i also stand for it.

 

[Wela]

LeetArian as Alliance Leader..... OMFG!

 

[Division]

LeetArian as Alliance Leader..... OMFG!

Reading your signature I can see you're from CF and that this comment probably aren't meant in any good way. So, isn't it a bit wrong to call the entire guild that, while it is perhabs only a little part of the guild that are like that? The same goes for Unleashed (the person posting a comment similar, not the Guild).

The only reason I say this, is because I believe it's wrong to state such thing without giving background information for the opinion, so they do at least got a chance to defend themselves.

While saying this I can't tell if you actually are right or wrong. What I'm saying is enlighten us and let us see it from your view, instead of just giving a comment containing more or less useless stuff.

 

[Dorin]

LeetArian as Alliance Leader..... OMFG!

CelticFuxor as Useless FH_Poster...... OMFG!

 

[Ogen]

Call me a roleplayer.. First i would like to state that i do kinda miss the old alliance. Main reson for that is how the realm was chained together as one big community. Still many things have changed(warmap, NF new leaders), but that been said, defending the realm and communication is still easiest done with one big alliance.
If(in my point of view), the alliance where to be remade, it would include alot of change from what CF /as was back then. Someone allready mentioned /lfg /looking for people as some of the resons to have an alliance, and LA /as are allready used for this purpoes (Not alot tho). This would without a doubht get messy, so imo rather put that in a CG instead.
As for this very moment, i dont see the exact specific reson to have an alliance at all, beside defending the realm, and communications.
I could imagine a alliance in the CF spirit without alot of spam, BUT including a few different CG´s.. One for ToA, one for LFG, and the main /as for rvr reportings(Yes i still think it would benefit hibernia as a realm, to orginise the rvr, instead of just roaming around what ever is on fire).

Just my thoughts and opinions..

 

[vintervargen]

but the rvr guilds doesnt want to "organise rvr for teh realm", thats the catch

 

[Talivar]

Im starting to think theres 2 versions of daoc anyway,
Elite daoc is made for fg vs fg only and casuals sook cus all they do is zerg and add and ruin "every ones" fun
Casual daoc is made for ppl who dont care for becoming the "best" but just wanna have instant fun and think elites sook cus all they do is whine and talk down to them.
You see this is the prob and until BOTH sets of ppl accept the other set has as much rights as them then we will have no resolution.Elites need to stop being so harsh and hypocritical and casuals need to start trying to see that elite ppl get there fun from fg fights(so by zerging em you destroying there fun).
So in a way both are hypocrits, fg ONLY ppl zerg solo ppl and casual play for FUN only ppl zerg and destroy the part of game elites class as fun.Both sets talk of fun yet dont hesitate to destroy other ppls fun when it doesnt match there own.
So until ppl can realise this then we will always have probs forming alliances.

 

[ebenezer]

Im starting to think theres 2 versions of daoc anyway,
Elite daoc is made for fg vs fg only and casuals sook cus all they do is zerg and add and ruin "every ones" fun
Casual daoc is made for ppl who dont care for becoming the "best" but just wanna have instant fun and think elites sook cus all they do is whine and talk down to them.
You see this is the prob and until BOTH sets of ppl accept the other set has as much rights as them then we will have no resolution.Elites need to stop being so harsh and hypocritical and casuals need to start trying to see that elite ppl get there fun from fg fights(so by zerging em you destroying there fun).
So in a way both are hypocrits, fg ONLY ppl zerg solo ppl and casual play for FUN only ppl zerg and destroy the part of game elites class as fun.Both sets talk of fun yet dont hesitate to destroy other ppls fun when it doesnt match there own.
So until ppl can realise this then we will always have probs forming alliances.

Ur right about some things in post.
But i must say there exists a third part of comunity then.
I for one, just dont care about what any other people do...the so called elitists, or the so called casual. I play how i want to...and im not trying to destroy for anyone else. I use comon sence which work for most situasions. I never whined on anyone elses playstyle in rvr....but i do get whined on from others...being elitists or casuals i dont care, but i do get anoyed by people trying to tell me how i should play this game^^
And alliance i dont really see any point in creating nowadays for some of the above reasons that others stated. Especially when the state of the realm is as it is now...with so much bickering a nagging. There would just be useless spam that one would have to turn off to be able to enjoy the gaming.

 

[Talivar]

well ebe i dont need to mention the 3rd group of ppl cus IMO u already dinged and beat daoc
cus u can log on and have fun and log off happy

 

[statued]

u would have to realise there will be a lot of problems between guilds complaining that they want this and that etc if they were to join the alliance again, people have said they cba joining something were people like galid giving orders etc (dont feel this true just think hes trying to do whats best)

 

[Ronso]

Make a guild called ronso rox the big 11 and let him lead the alliance to victory and uber sized peenors ...OR..

just play it as it is for the moment and hopefully the gms (not just LA and CF gms ) might start communicating positivly about new ideas for an AS ..

tbh .. wouldnt mind DH leading the alliance and after all there is no actual leading to do ..no one is in charge ..its just the alliance is under their name and tbh none of DH members Ive chatted to etc have ever done the IMLEETOMG thing although Sheph has a kitten fetish ..

 

[Brack]

Think ppl actually like an alliance theyre allowed to talk in. Aswell i personally like that we dont have any "roleplayers" (besides brack ofc) in the current LA alliance, feel free to call me an elitist prick, see if i care. And we can talk abit trash to eachother, without some random CF guy telling us to stfu etc. Besides we can use the alliance as a toa cg, coz small amount of guilds :>

Mind your own business xDDDDD

and myg already beat me 2 it, he roleplays way 2 much :<

 

[Harle]

I there is no need for the " /as fg mids at crauch" anymore, simply because of the /warmap

Well, that's basically what it boils down to. The alliance was never for community, fun, "defending the realm" or any of that roleplay BS - it was only a tool for the RvR-guilds to know where the easy RPs are - now that this tool is no longer needed it gets thrown away like an unwanted toy - so long, and thanks for all the fish.

Really interesting reading some posts in this thread - how some people make CF the evil dictators, who imposed their nazi alliance rules on the poor others, while in reality the rules were discussed and agreed upon together by all guild GMs back in the days - heck, we even had votings when a new guild applied for alliance membership. The alliance was run democratic, and CF was only the tool, the people who could type /gc ainvite - and nothing more.

 

[Asq]

but i do get whined on from others...

Right! And you will taxi me where ever I damned well pls :touch:

But seriously, this situation of casuals vs addicts ( ) has been going on for a lot longer then NF. Point is that old guild- and allianceleaders have ceased playing and new folks working there behinds off to keep everything in line never received the ‘respect’ or ‘attention’. In the end the downward spiral simply led to the moving away of guilds to other or their own alliances. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it might even be quite an improvement to previous situations. It draws the casuals to a more casually run guild and alliance where people generally tend to play the same way, as well as it draws rvr-type players to similar guilds and alliances. It’s called polarisation (sp?) and is sometimes very necessary.

The point is though that whatever the differences between both groups (and the ones hanging in between), the still are from one realm and should run together and set aside differences when it matters. Wether that happpens with one or ten alliances doesn’t matter.

 

[Domain]

Ronso .. thanks for what you are saying , but one of the reasons because this post was made is because we will never leave the CF alliance , it doesnt matter our status of rvr guild or no , but most of our member we play since very old days .. and it's well known in the guild how the things has to be .

And 2nd , a guild as DH can "never" lead an alliance ... because of his aiming of rvr in the 70% of movements of the guild , alliance leader has to be a guild who undertands and tends to do all the kinds ways of play daoc , rvring , pveing , communiting , good armony etc aka CF .


And well, i have to agree with Harle a bit.. in what one of the most important tools of old /as , it was to know where the action was , in fact i would be lieing if i dont accept one of the reason discussed into the guild to join the as two years ago, it was the basic information of rvr ... ( ye why deny it ) . But also for us it was a way of comunnity , and follow the realm movement, accords relic raids , help in needed moments , sometimes spaniard useless spam , and everything else that it can be claimed and set up as reasons to gather all guilds together again

 

[ebenezer]

well ebe i dont need to mention the 3rd group of ppl cus IMO u already dinged and beat daoc
cus u can log on and have fun and log off happy

True hehe

 

[ebenezer]

Right! And you will taxi me where ever I damned well pls :touch:


Hmmm....in agreement it said il taxi u between guildhouse and my house for drinks, and payment was supposed to be free liquer and luripee rolls...i seen nothing fo the sort!...so just run with ur own err...sexy legs!

 

[wittor]

I dont think there is any chance that LA and CF alliance will be re-emerged tbh. because of 2 things.

1. The current leaders of CF alliance, are not the right leaders for the biggest alliance in hib. They have shown bad judgement and cannot handle things as some of the old leaders of the alliance did. There is a lack of respect for the leaders and that is probably why things ended up the way it did. I can show numerous screenshots of how the leader(s) handle things, but i dont want this to be a name-and-shame thread. I am actually quite glad you made this thread Domain.

I agree with Mastade
and domain .. AR dident left the /as , we got removed from it cus Elcain said something and some other stuff aswell ie. Mastade had some argument about artifacts and the other ppl just started to flame him but as he said cba to show screens

 

[Event]

Think ppl actually like an alliance theyre allowed to talk in. Aswell i personally like that we dont have any "roleplayers" (besides brack ofc) in the current LA alliance, feel free to call me an elitist prick, see if i care. And we can talk abit trash to eachother, without some random CF guy telling us to stfu etc. Besides we can use the alliance as a toa cg, coz small amount of guilds :>

ur mom?

 

[Chrstffr]

lets get off my mum now, since i just got off yours :<

 

[Ronso]

lets get off my mum now, since i just got off yours :<

Ba Dum Tish !

 

[Mutoria]

lets get off my mum now, since i just got off yours :<

owned mate OWNED!

 

[Hestethun]

harle reason we started to think about new /as was cuz of one of the leaders in CF. ONLY reason. AR got removed for childish shit.

Now there are CF alliance and LA alliance and think it will keep going that. See no reason to change it tbh.

 

[censi]

yer but to be fair as nice as a guy elcain is, he was spamming the shit out of that /as channel. and given a lot of warnings. back in the day only like the top officers in the guild got /as. think the guy should have not really gotten /as or should have had his /as taken away.

i would much prefer to have all these RVR guilds back in /as. we all be playing the game now for a while nice to all be togther in one channel to share the good times and bad times and have a laugh. miss some of the humour that came from all the old rvr guys.

mind u I better be careful because we all guity of spamming /as after a few beers

 

[Mastade]

Yeh Elcain didn't behave very well. But the thing is, i weren't online that day when he did spam /as like he did so didn't have the opportunity to kick him. and A-R got kicked, even tho Elcain left the guild. But even before that incident i have had the urge to just leave the alliance when you consider all the abuse my guildies and I have gotten from certain members off the alliance. Things like arti stealing, ppl abusing GM accs. to treathen to kick us and to just spam personal insults and so on.

Anyways, im happy in the new alliance and that is what counts afterall.

 

[Brack]

miss some of the humour that came from all the old rvr guys.

All ur missing is dinfar saying i feel hardcore :<

 

[Elcain]

Being accused of lots Artifact BS Random QQ and ASpolice pissed me off ;/
soz a-r <3

 

[ilaya]

right i have my sensible head on for once ok, so dont just think.. oh its ilaya.. this is gonna be bollox...

tbh.. it dont matter that the CF alliance has split now NF is here.. the info about rvr isnt as needed.. u can see stuff happening simply by typing /rw. the numbers of peeps attacking is another matter. now.. as long as the alliances talk to each other when the numbers seem scary and it seems the shit is hitting the fan.. thats the important thing. we know where everyone can find each other and call for backup when required.

it worked when there was 3 massive alliances waaay back before even ToA.. remember the Celtic Fist/Clan Bearhawk/Hearts of Fire setup? if albs/mids came anywhere near relic keeps.. all it took was a couple of pm's and pretty much everyone in hib knew in 20 secs flat. its pretty similar to what is happening now.. all it needs is a little communication when it matters and hibernia works as a unit again.

btw.. where is my happy birthday thread? bastards