Europe going back into BST

[psyco]

ok this post is just a heads up,
and to try to prevent confusion in the next couple of months

as im sure you all know once a year the Europe goes into 'Daylight Saving Times'

as a result of this, raid leader's and attenders, sometimes get confuced.

what this basicly means, is that the whole of Europe goes Foward +1 hour, i am unsure why but i think its because the sun doesn't align(spelling error?) properly with the earth.

this happens on March 26, 2006 a Saturday Evening/Sunday Morning

in Western Europe it happens at 1AM and skips to 2AM, including UK
in Centeral Europe it happens at 2AM and skips to 3AM, including The Netherlands
in Eastern Europe it happens at 3AM and skips to 4AM, Mainly Russia
(Referance : http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dstevents.html)

so the current time is 14:05 in the UK next week it will be 15:05
and the current time in The Netherlands is 15:05 and next week it will be 16:05

UK will equal GMT+1
and The Netherlands will equal GMT+2
raid leaders should take this consideration. posting CLEARLY, Centeral Europe/Western Europe or GMT +1/+2 or even GMT

there is nothing more anoying than turning upto a raid 1 or 2 hours late or early

any further questions i will try to answer.
Thank you

 

[Brohanith]

isn't it easier to post a raid and end it with: and remember to adjust your alarmclock to the summertime?

Besides if I'm posting a raid, I'll never post: Well, it's 3pm now, which will be 4pm next week. and I wanna lead a ML** raid exactly 1 week and 6 hours from now. So that won't be 9pm but 10pm!

NO. I just post 10pm CET.

So, unless there's 7 year old kids scrounging these forums, this post is useless imo. (I'm not counting Straef)

tyvm

 

[MesS°]

isn't it easier to post a raid and end it with: and remember to adjust your alarmclock to the summertime?

Besides if I'm posting a raid, I'll never post: Well, it's 3pm now, which will be 4pm next week. and I wanna lead a ML** raid exactly 1 week and 6 hours from now. So that won't be 9pm but 10pm!

NO. I just post 10pm CET.

So, unless there's 7 year old kids scrounging these forums, this post is useless imo. (I'm not counting Straef)

tyvm

Thanks for sharing your pointless ramblings.

 

[Muldini]

isn't it easier to post a raid and end it with: and remember to adjust your alarmclock to the summertime?

Besides if I'm posting a raid, I'll never post: Well, it's 3pm now, which will be 4pm next week. and I wanna lead a ML** raid exactly 1 week and 6 hours from now. So that won't be 9pm but 10pm!

NO. I just post 10pm CET.

So, unless there's 7 year old kids scrounging these forums, this post is useless imo. (I'm not counting Straef)

tyvm

Theres always confusion so why not let him make a notice.

 

[Brohanith]

confusion about what? Can't imagine people having trouble setting the clock an hour forward. And it has nothing to do with raids as everyone gets +1... ie. the times will still be the same for every1 next week. You only have an hour less sleep

 

[Muldini]

Well that you can't imagine it doesn't change the fact that some ppl are sometimes early / late. You might wanna think about those (no offense to any1 here) that find it complicated to read raid stuff in english + time etc.

Anyway, him posting it doesnt hurt anyone and might help a few, so why give him a comment like "its useless kthx" instead of just leaving it there for ppl that it might help.

 

[Gremon]

Doesn't UK go ahead 1 hour as well at the same time, which would mean nothing will change?

 

[Brohanith]

Doesn't UK go ahead 1 hour as well at the same time, which would mean nothing will change?

tyvm

 

[Roken]

The confusion arises when people (British in the main) make the assumption
that UK time = GMT despite the fact that UK time = GMT + 1 (with daylight
saving time)

So someone comes along and says "MITHRA RAID @ 7pm GMT" (hehe!)
Now if the raid leader is under the belief that GMT = UK time they will actually start the raid at 6pm GMT (7pm UK time)... or alternatively if they
DID mean 7pm GMT (i.e 8pm UK time) someone will turn up at 7pm UK time (6pm GMT) and whine noone is there.

 

[Brohanith]

So it still all comes down to people that forget to set the clock an hour forward. I still think it's useless asking raid leaders to post the right time.

Mithra Raid
This weeks time 7pm GMT, 8pm CET

Next weeks time 8pm GMT, 9pm CET

plz...

If he made a reminder post to set the clock forward, or meant to, I retract my remark and give him a nice rep point. But adressing raid leaders.. zzz

 

[Roken]

No it all comes down to the fact that some people think that GMT is affected by daylight saving time. It is not

So if I post that my Mithra Raid is at 7pm GMT this week that means 7pm UK time.
If I post my raid is at 7pm GMT next week that will mean 8pm UK time.

 

[Brohanith]

So if I post that my Mithra Raid is at 7pm GMT this week that means 7pm UK time.
If I post my raid is at 7pm GMT next week that will mean 8pm UK time.

Hate to disappoint ya but it'll be still at 7pm

 

[Sparx]

totally agree with Brohanith, it will still be the same time differences next week as it is this week, just an hour later everwhere.


So if someone post and event this week for next week at say 9pm i am pretty sure that next week it will still be 9pm that raid is on

 

[Rickie]

Popcorn....!! Same funny stuff evry year.

Thank god I live in Denmark where CET is CET all year.

/mum

 

[Roken]

So long as you don't post GMT it will yes.

Read the argument here (from last year) I really can't be bothered anymore.

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=168821

 

[Sparx]

yeah but most ppl i know when they see 9pm GMT if they live in CET then they will know that its 9pm +1 (or whatever it is, its friday and i am thinking of pub) so they know its 10 their time

Not go hold on..... its 9pm GMT BUT GMT is +1 then that means 10 but wait CET is +1 from that so that means 11

I dont think i know anyone who would do that.

Ofc i could be looking at this completely wrong

 

[Ging]

tis easy to sort....







..... invite only people from your country (btw i dont give a shit if your country spans two timezones, move to a country that doesnt and stop bitching). Lets get the walls up between sexy England and the rest of the scabs in Europe who are all commies irl and stink of a warlocks g-string after a weekend bridge camping session.


Alternatively just say for eg. "meeting aerus 5pm english time."


All peewee countries know how far ahead or behind english time they are.

 

[Sparx]

Rofl

 

[Feyd]

The point of the original poster wasnt only to remember ppl to set their clock 1 hour ahead when we go into summer time.

The point was to remind ppl that gmt is not the same as UK time next week.

currently ppl post xxx raid at 8 pm gmt

today / this week.
GMT = uk time (the time your watch is set at in the UK)
so 8 pm GMT = 8 pm uk time

Next week when we are in summertime then
GMT+1 = uk time (the time your watch is set at in the UK)
so 8 pm GMT = 9 pm uk time.


So the point is mainly that raidleaders either post times as uk time or cet.
GMT as timereference should NOT be used while we are in summer time - it just confuses alot of ppl.
"UK time" was the timereference that was more or less agreed on last year to be used to avoid confusion.

For a lengthy explanation the read through the link that Roken posted.

 

[Asha]

There is far, far too much thought going into this. If someone can't figure out dst on their own, then they are probably too stupid to group with.

 

[psyco]

at its simplist im basicly saying that GMT isn't UK time all the time
if raid runners say raid blabla at 8GMT there is sometimes confusion wheather to add 1 or 2 hours's to adust to local time(acording to the reader)

i remeber many raids last year where the leader said to meet GMT and getting some replys asking if he/she ment uk time or 'universal'

like i said its JUST a reminder

 

[psyco]

Popcorn....!! Same funny stuff evry year.

Thank god I live in Denmark where CET is CET all year.

/mum

acording to the site i found, you still have to ajust the clocks tho, ye?

witch technecly is SCET or what ever
unless you dont change the clocks
and then UK time would be the same as CET
then we would use a universal time, correct me if im wrong, but i dont think we did last year

on a side note...
anyone actully know why we reset the clock's?

 

[Muldini]

Daylight saving time or daylight savings time (DST) is a widely used system of adjusting the official local time forward, usually one hour from its official standard time for the duration of the spring and summer months. This is intended to provide a better match between the hours of daylight and the active hours of work and school. The "savings" are spent on evening activities which get more daylight, rather than being "wasted" while people sleep past dawn.

...is what wikipedia says.

 

[Rickie]

acording to the site i found, you still have to ajust the clocks tho, ye?

witch technecly is SCET or what ever
unless you dont change the clocks
and then UK time would be the same as CET
then we would use a universal time, correct me if im wrong, but i dont think we did last year

on a side note...
anyone actully know why we reset the clock's?

Yes we all set our clocks in europe. The diffrence betwen Denmark and UK is we dont refer to SummerDenmarkTime or WinterDenmarkTime. ... its just CET aka what ever its summer or winter.
The reason why we have summer/winter time is to save energy ( streetlights and so).

/mum

 

[GReaper]

Yes we all set our clocks in europe. The diffrence betwen Denmark and UK is we dont refer to SummerDenmarkTime or WinterDenmarkTime. ... its just CET aka what ever its summer or winter.
The reason why we have summer/winter time is to save energy ( streetlights and so).

/mum

It's CEST (UTC+2) during daylight saving time. Referring to CET all year round is as bad as people referring to GMT when it should be BST during daylight saving time!

Some links:

http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark

 

[Rickie]

It's CEST (UTC+2) during daylight saving time. Referring to CET all year round is as bad as people referring to GMT when it should be BST during daylight saving time!

Some links:

http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark

I realy dont need a link to know what the clock is.... not even during the summer.
Thanks tho.

 

[Ging]

I realy dont need a link to know what the clock is.... not even during the summer.
Thanks tho.

here then www.hugecocks.com



ops u said cLock didnt u Was wondering about the reference to the summer.... ... still they do say when the sun comes out it is closly followed by the baps

 

[Mall]

Nice post, even though everyone will argue about it for the next six month anyway.

Bring on winter I guess

 

[Ging]

Nice post, even though everyone will argue about it for the next six month anyway.

Bring on winter I guess

can we argue about it on TS tonight magz?

 

[Mall]

can we argue about it on TS tonight magz?

Nope