Emoting and COC?

Espen

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nope... since my account wasnt accesible at the time and i didnt collect any information about anything i intended on using to benefit the other realms .. its totally legal.. just as Gamah has 2 accounts on pryd.. one hib and one alb
 

Sollac

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THAT MAYBE SO BUT the way GOA have been lately its probably enuff to get u banned.......

not that im gonna do anything... im just a poor alb leveling a character of rall you hib/mids to farm

:sex:
 

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Thornea said:
Seen lots of cases of mids (mainly in OF but still going on now) relentlessly spamming /hugs to each other.. guess this is now against the COC (Flooding) and if a particularily over zealous nobber decided too he could report them and get them suspended :( Im out of game at mo (Due to server restart), wondering if its possible to disable emote effects in window like it is for spell effects etc (Wont be able to tell until server is back up).. if not impliment it and problem is sorted for those of a delicate nature :p

Right guys it's simple, all get your stealthers into NF and hide behind trees etc. When albs/mids spam hugs and cheers s/s em, we'll rightnow them all....We'll have an empty NF and we can nick all the relics while we're at it. A safe plan :)

(tbh might be the only way we can hold bolg for a decent length of time :eek6: )
 

Comos

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This is so stupid...

If it's against the rules to spam /rude then put a damn timer on it to do it at 1 person or something, how hard can it be.
 

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Espen said:
that is actually horner i was playing my m8s account... i have the entire screenshot of it aswell if you want proof...

I meant more that "horner saying that he didn't get in trouble doesn't make it true"
 

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Glenmorangie said:
I really dont see where the hell youre getting at with spamming PA or Critshotting someone
Hardly a giant leap! In a game where you perform moves such as Garrote and Rib Seperation, a game where you kill to gain points, I find it rather strange that people get upset about a simple emote. If you really are getting that upset about a computer game then you seriously need a break.

Glenmorangie said:
what part of spam being harrassment dont you understand? QUOTE]

If using emotes is harrassment then sue Mythic/person doing it. You won't win because it's bullshit!
 

Akyma

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Flimgoblin said:
I meant more that "horner saying that he didn't get in trouble doesn't make it true"
camon m8, think is clear... waht u need to see GM acount abuse? 5 drako, 9 legion and 12 behemoth on atk like pridwen?
 

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Hawkwind said:
Glenmorangie said:
I really dont see where the hell youre getting at with spamming PA or Critshotting someone
Hardly a giant leap! In a game where you perform moves such as Garrote and Rib Seperation, a game where you kill to gain points, I find it rather strange that people get upset about a simple emote. If you really are getting that upset about a computer game then you seriously need a break.

Glenmorangie said:
what part of spam being harrassment dont you understand? QUOTE]

If using emotes is harrassment then sue Mythic/person doing it. You won't win because it's bullshit!

Why do you get so upset about GOA taking action over something they have announced in the CoC as not allowed? Seems like you need a break.

And mythic has nothing to do with this. Do you sue the manufacturer of matches because someone torched down your house? Or the gasoline company?

Why cant you get it into your thick head whats allowed and whats not?

And dont bother to reply unless you got something contructive to say... Im not here to increase the postcount of some dumbass...
 

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Akyma said:
camon m8, think is clear... waht u need to see GM acount abuse? 5 drako, 9 legion and 12 behemoth on atk like pridwen?

Maybe I'm just biased because I talk to the GMs daily (being an E&E) but for some reason I find it unlikely that Horner has any of them in his pocket.

Oh and the stuff on "pridwen" that time was hackers.
 

Xmi

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Ye gods, talk about talk something to death, spamming is against the CoC. <--- note the full stop on the end of that sentence, its that bloody simple!

Can we talk about something else now, like warlocks and how lovely, fun and underpowered they are? :worthy: to all my warlock brothers and sisters out there. ...hmm I sense incoming /nastiness spam /ducks!
 

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Hawkwind said:
Glenmorangie said:
I really dont see where the hell youre getting at with spamming PA or Critshotting someone
Hardly a giant leap! In a game where you perform moves such as Garrote and Rib Seperation, a game where you kill to gain points, I find it rather strange that people get upset about a simple emote. If you really are getting that upset about a computer game then you seriously need a break.

Glenmorangie said:
what part of spam being harrassment dont you understand? QUOTE]

If using emotes is harrassment then sue Mythic/person doing it. You won't win because it's bullshit!

I know its hard to understand, but give it a try.

USING an emote that is not harrassment/against coc, and wont get you banned. SPAMMING an emote is harrassment/against coc and will get you banned.

Again. USING is ok. SPAMMING is not ok. It is not about upsetting someone, I am pretty sure I can report you for spamming an emote at someone else, if I am in range of getting the message and fell that I wanna report you for being an annoying spammer.
 

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Akyma said:
camon m8, think is clear... waht u need to see GM acount abuse? 5 drako, 9 legion and 12 behemoth on atk like pridwen?

Clueless much?

One proven idiot claims he has "friends up high" and you skip straight to GM abuse..

Guess it was people with your IQ that burned witches.
 

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noaim said:
I know its hard to understand, but give it a try.

USING an emote that is not harrassment/against coc, and wont get you banned. SPAMMING an emote is harrassment/against coc and will get you banned.

Again. USING is ok. SPAMMING is not ok. It is not about upsetting someone, I am pretty sure I can report you for spamming an emote at someone else, if I am in range of getting the message and fell that I wanna report you for being an annoying spammer.

:clap: Totally agree spamming /rude x 20 is bad and causes problems with your gameplay.
 

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Glenmorangie said:
Why do you get so upset about GOA taking action over something they have announced in the CoC as not allowed? Seems like you need a break.

I'm not upset at all, quite dispassionate about the whole thing to be honest. Just a point of view. You seem to have not entirely read through what I wrote. I stated that spamming (x20) was bad but don't let that spoil your pointless rebuttal.

Glenmorangie said:
And mythic has nothing to do with this. Do you sue the manufacturer of matches because someone torched down your house? Or the gasoline company?

You take things so far out of context its untrue, are you a politician? Stupid analogy anyway, you probably could sue if the matches were defective. Why would you have gasoline in the house?

Glenmorangie said:
Why cant you get it into your thick head whats allowed and whats not? And dont bother to reply unless you got something contructive to say... Im not here to increase the postcount of some dumbass.

Insults are the last refuge of people who cannot construct a proper argument. All I have said in these posts are that I agree spamming is a problem but that I do not understand why players get upset about a /rude that is done 3 or 4 times. Its part of the game and Mythic put it in there for a reason. Personally I don't do it.

Its a simple point of view. If you do not agree fair enough I could respect that. But pointless flame posting serves no purpose. Thick/dumbass, don't think so mate. I have a Masters Degree in Electronic Engineering and a HND in Software Engineering.
 

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Hawkwind said:
I'm not upset at all, quite dispassionate about the whole thing to be honest. Just a point of view. You seem to have not entirely read through what I wrote. I stated that spamming (x20) was bad but don't let that spoil your pointless rebuttal.



You take things so far out of context its untrue, are you a politician? Stupid analogy anyway, you probably could sue if the matches were defective. Why would you have gasoline in the house?



Insults are the last refuge of people who cannot construct a proper argument. All I have said in these posts are that I agree spamming is a problem but that I do not understand why players get upset about a /rude that is done 3 or 4 times. Its part of the game and Mythic put it in there for a reason. Personally I don't do it.

Its a simple point of view. If you do not agree fair enough I could respect that. But pointless flame posting serves no purpose. Thick/dumbass, don't think so mate. I have a Masters Degree in Electronic Engineering and a HND in Software Engineering.

Such a big post to say nothing vital at all, go back sucking on your ale?
 

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Keffo said:
Such a big post to say nothing vital at all, go back sucking on your ale?
What are you talking about, are you also unable to decipher normal prose in addition to having a constant tendency to stealthzerg and being utterly skilless? (Btw, how many FH accounts have you had anyway?)
 

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Keffo said:
Such a big post to say nothing vital at all, go back sucking on your ale?

Theres something semi-serious semi-roleplaying about Grimster. I like it.
 

Glenmorangie

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This is the first post where you actually tried to make sense... but here goes:

Hawkwind said:
I'm not upset at all, quite dispassionate about the whole thing to be honest. Just a point of view. You seem to have not entirely read through what I wrote. I stated that spamming (x20) was bad but don't let that spoil your pointless rebuttal..

You said : To ban people for doing something Mythic put in the game for that exact purpose is pretty dum in my opinion.

Mythic did not put emotes in the game so you could spam em 20 times.



Hawkwind said:
You take things so far out of context its untrue, are you a politician? Stupid analogy anyway, you probably could sue if the matches were defective. Why would you have gasoline in the house?

The part about the matches was not a stupid analogy, you just didnt understand :) If someone else, torches your house down, using matches... would you sue the matches company or the person torching em? On another note, you started to bring up the sueing part, i just used it in the hope to clarify to you what the issue at hand is here... which i hope you have understood by now :)


Hawkwind said:
Insults are the last refuge of people who cannot construct a proper argument. All I have said in these posts are that I agree spamming is a problem but that I do not understand why players get upset about a /rude that is done 3 or 4 times. Its part of the game and Mythic put it in there for a reason. Personally I don't do it.

I saw 2 of youre posts filled with crap. Didnt want to read another clueless post again.



Hawkwind said:
Its a simple point of view. If you do not agree fair enough I could respect that. But pointless flame posting serves no purpose. Thick/dumbass, don't think so mate. I have a Masters Degree in Electronic Engineering and a HND in Software Engineering.

You didnt respect that, because you didnt even read what i wrote or, in a worse case scenario, you didnt understand. Grats on your Masters Degree etc etc, really made your point stronger!

Edit : I dont spam someone 20 times either, nor do i support people who rightnow em. But what i find even worse is people spamming like 10 year olds and whine when someone does something about it.
 

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Glenmorangie said:
You said : To ban people for doing something Mythic put in the game for that exact purpose is pretty dum in my opinion.
Mythic did not put emotes in the game so you could spam em 20 times..

Agree 100% and I did distinguish between a /rude and 20x /rude in the post. If you had read them and understood that, then you would not be replying. The first is harmless although some people take offence and think its a kind of harrassment. That I do not agree with. The second is annoying and does affect gameplay.

Glenmorangie said:
The part about the matches was not a stupid analogy, you just didnt understand :) If someone else, torches your house down, using matches... would you sue the matches company or the person torching em? On another note, you started to bring up the sueing part, i just used it in the hope to clarify to you what the issue at hand is here... which i hope you have understood by now :).

I must admit I misread your post, early morning and no coffee, so apologies for stating the analogy was stupid. But you missed the original point entirely and your constant replies of you do not understand you clueless smacks of being slightly childish. The funny thing is that we actually agreed on the main points.


Glenmorangie said:
I saw 2 of youre posts filled with crap. Didnt want to read another clueless post again.

You didnt respect that, because you didnt even read what i wrote or, in a worse case scenario, you didnt understand. Grats on your Masters Degree etc etc, really made your point stronger!
Again with the insults. At least when I make a point I respect peoples views and if I don't agree then I try to make an argument why. To flame is pointless, discussion is what this forum is about.
Regarding the qualifications you stated that I was "thick" and a "dumbass". I can prove otherwise. If all you have to do all day is misread and flame then go ahead, I'm finished.
 

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Hawkwind said:


Noone claimed 1 emote wasnt allowed. Only part was about the 20x rudes. you said literally:

Originally Posted by Hawkwind
If Spam = harrassment then what the heck is a PA or Crit Shot? Its a game of war between realms, although seeing some of the x-realmers yesterday morning at Berks T1 you would hardly believe it. Its a violent game that draws you in and sometimes emotions can run a little high.

To ban people for doing something Mythic put in the game for that exact purpose is pretty dum in my opinion.

To be honest I can understand continuous spamming (x20) as a problem but the rest is just part of the game. Get a life and get over it.


Noone called 1 emote harrassement. Only a fair amount of them. GOA decided max was 5 or 6 or so. You disagreed, else you woulnt have posted, would you?

Sorry if it seemed childish to you, I did find your first 2 posts clueless. And if you cant take a pinch of sarcasm or some mildly flammable remarks, you really shouldnt try posting on FH to be honest. And you dont seem shy of from some sarcastic/flammable comments youself.

I havent misread your posts, just pointed out where you were wrong, and you would have known that if you would reread a post or two. it also seems im not the only one?

Ill admit, i do realise now that you are on the same wave length, but, with the risk of repeating myself, that wasnt what you intially said.
 

Akyma

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the problem here is not all ppl get banned for do emote spam, just some ppl.
bann all or none, better none cause it is retarded...
 

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Akyma said:
the problem here is not all ppl get banned for do emote spam, just some ppl.
bann all or none, better none cause it is retarded...


if they get reported and have broken the CoC they'll get in trouble, simple as that.
 

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Glenmorangie said:
The part about the matches was not a stupid analogy, you just didnt understand :) If someone else, torches your house down, using matches... would you sue the matches company or the person torching em? On another note, you started to bring up the sueing part, i just used it in the hope to clarify to you what the issue at hand is here... which i hope you have understood by now :)

Little off topic but don't you just hate the people who sued mcdonalds because they ate too much and got fat? :(
 

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Belomar said:
What are you talking about, are you also unable to decipher normal prose in addition to having a constant tendency to stealthzerg and being utterly skilless? (Btw, how many FH accounts have you had anyway?)

Doe's it matter what am I am talking about, or are you just answering my nick? I bet you are. :)

I will stealthzerg in a utterly skilless fashion until you admit that you are having fun zerging me or any other stealther. :)

On.....Avalon
 

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tbh i laugh at you all for saying "oh it's against the CoC so you were right to get banned " blah blah bullshit yawn QQ some more boring - read the CoC carefully and please refer to this post that i made (obviously i have been named and shamed by takhylock, however, i just wanted the lock nerf to be implemeted faster ;p)

RandomDotCom said:
This is what GoA sent me as reason for "suspending" me account


Quote:
Originally Posted by GoA
Rules of good conduct

Users are expected to show respect for one another, to contribute to the cordial atmosphere of the game. Harassment of another person, insults or remarks intended to hurt another person will not be tolerated.

Of course, we expect our members to express themselves using correct language. Similarly, racist, xenophobic or revisionist remarks, or remarks displaying intolerance of a religious, ideological, philosophical or similar nature will not be accepted.

"Flooding" (the rapid systematic repetition of one phrase, which interferes with communication between users) is forbidden, as is all abuse of the means of communication that can be accessed on the site.



Last time i checked, /laugh at someone does not cause them mental or physical harm (unless ofc they fake it), laughing at someone cuz they died in a funny way (rr9 sorc called horner dying to an rr1L3 lvl 45 blue con animist is hilarious) is not offensive imo

Flooding WHICH INTERFERES WITH COMUNICATION BETWEEN PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!! EMOTES DO NOT INTEREFERE WITH THE CHAT WINDOW, the top window (above the window that allows you to TALK AND COMMUNICATE with other players) is not affectected in any way (apart ofc my laughing at a noob)

thank you GoA

no where does it say you cannot emote spam - this is based on the CoC written February 23rd 2003 by GoA which can be found when loading your account
 

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RandomDotCom said:
no where does it say you cannot emote spam - this is based on the CoC written February 23rd 2003 by GoA which can be found when loading your account
Why are we still discussing this? GOA owns the server. Thus they are the ultimate authority. If they class emote spamming as a case of griefing other players, then that might as well have been written in stone. Of course the CoC could not begin to cover all the various cases you can grief other players, in the same way that a lawbook cannot begin to cover all the ways you can, for instance, kill a person. Thus it is enough to say that "griefing is forbidden", or "murder is illegal", and then it is up to the authorities (GOA or the justice system, respectively) to decide the interpretation of this.

It's not rocket science, you know.
 

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"Flooding" (the rapid systematic repetition of one phrase, which interferes with communication between users) is forbidden, as is all abuse of the means of communication that can be accessed on the site.
read things before you quote them
emoting is a form of communication
spamming = flooding
flooding = against coc

which part confuses you?
 

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