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p.s nerf buffbots and your 1/2 way to seeing better alb grps in emain due to the sudden abundance of clerics that will be avaliable 
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Hatt
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We know, and i haven't said anything about it
Albs/hibs whine at fotm groups, not on other groups, thats why im talking about them.
:wub: =)
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Shut up grimster... Krang here, the one who used 2 duo with u and alain, not the new owner mate sold his acc *sigh*
Hatt is right imo... i've played all reamds now and i've ran with NP couple of times... they are very good players... the prob is that albs dont have such as big interest in this game as mids do.. i can make a perfect grp in albion but the players prolly hate each other, becouse there is 2 much hate in albion :/
Lets say players like
Gregorian
Mindrat
Gunnerr
Daws
Therg
Madtank
Twinblades
Alpha/Fixx
this is a very nice group, but they will never ever play together becouse they are from different guild and run around either laming in the guild dying, random groups, crafting or just dont have the flair to go out and pwn mids NP or JH or BC doesnt really matter becouse they got something in their head that says, if we win we will get zerged each time so there is no use.. mids usually fight 1fg vs 2 fg's of what i've seen and done my self....
Alb fight vs 1 fg go oop and ooe and are dead.. thats the thing i dont understand.. ofc it happens that some prefixed alb group just pwns anything one day and then the other one they die and stop
also in albion, when u die once in a random group or allmost any group ppl disband and do something else, becouse they dont have the will and patience to go out again and try doing their best just to win... also as u have seen, most alb groups are allways at amg camping or mmg camping, thats lame...
no offence 2 any1 but imo u should try and do some prefixed groups if u got the time and try it out and see how it works
seens outlaw do some prefixed groups and kill many mid groups...
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Originally posted by Hatt
We know, and i haven't said anything about it
Albs/hibs whine at fotm groups, not on other groups, thats why im talking about them.
:wub: =)
There is nothing called a FOTM grp if ur class/player dont know how 2 play, i killed a savage solo with my inf and i dont have PA for christ sake, and no i dont have DF as well...
was a 2h savage, he didnt know how 2 play his own char and what 2 use against me, instaed of trying 2 evade my dual wield he should parry and use parry styles becouse he can and go hits enough 2 do it..
bah, get a grip!
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Gregstah pls stop spewing your bullshit with all your ebayed accounts!!, you got as much knowledge of the game as my grandma!! now silent child... !
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Gregstah
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Your grandma plays the game better then u do..
and if im filled with bs explain 2 teh ppl how in the gods name i pwned ur arse with my NS?
go and zerg mids and hibs or smth... dont post here, BW aint teh place for u
and if im filled with bs explain 2 teh ppl how in the gods name i pwned ur arse with my NS?
go and zerg mids and hibs or smth... dont post here, BW aint teh place for u
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For all Albs saying there are never enough people of the right classes to make balanced groups, why not roll one of the needed classes yourself? That's what mids and hibs do.
If they find a new way to make the group better, a lot of people roll the chars needed. Call it fotm or whatever, but the truth is that people roll the chars that mid groups wants and the same with Hibs.
Albions are too biased to do that and that's why Albs have a huge number of crappy random FGs. If you have no sorcs in Albion, then roll one. If you have no clerics, then roll one. Do you think it's easy to get a good random shaman in Mid? It's very hard. A lot of people are also buffbots that just RvRs enough with a gimped spec to get enough rsp to get MotA X etc.
If mids roll new chars with the intention to rvr, they roll savages(!), healers, shamans, skalds, warriors and berserkers. Granted warriors and berserkers are hardly wanted in most fotm random groups nowaday and everyone wants to be an overpowered savage, warriors and berserkers are still a good class and becasue of PF they're a better choice as well instead of an extra savage.
Hibs fotm is without a doubt Blademasters. Lots of people roll BMs now. BM is one of the best damage dealing tanks nowaday and if you have 3 BMs in an assist train all frontloading Flurry + TW + Ice Storm / Snow Shower it can be nasty. Add in a Hero and a Warden and enjoy the damage output. I've had a couple of times where I've been dealt so much damage so fast that it's almost insta death. Granted they are specced pierce ofc..
BaF has given our gg some good fights and they use a BM setup.
People adapt or at least tries to adapt, so why doesn't Albs do that as well?
Roll the chars in need if you can't find one and if there are so few of the class as you say it is, then you should find yourself picking from the top of the shelves when it comes to what groups you want to play with.
If you only see savages at mtk, that's why people roll them when that's what random groups want. Fotm or not, doesn't matter, if the class is needed/wanted, a lot of people rolls them.
Stop playing your old fire wizzies and roll a new toon that's good and in demand for rvr and things will be a lot better. Caster groups are mostly for Hibs imo, since they got access to GP.
It's also a huge advantage if you have access to buffbots at your tk. If your tanks doesn't loose their buffs when you kill their support then they are still very powerful. And in Mid you need a buffbot to be able to get specs for the whole group, so more and more buffbots will see the light.
That's my cents.
If they find a new way to make the group better, a lot of people roll the chars needed. Call it fotm or whatever, but the truth is that people roll the chars that mid groups wants and the same with Hibs.
Albions are too biased to do that and that's why Albs have a huge number of crappy random FGs. If you have no sorcs in Albion, then roll one. If you have no clerics, then roll one. Do you think it's easy to get a good random shaman in Mid? It's very hard. A lot of people are also buffbots that just RvRs enough with a gimped spec to get enough rsp to get MotA X etc.
If mids roll new chars with the intention to rvr, they roll savages(!), healers, shamans, skalds, warriors and berserkers. Granted warriors and berserkers are hardly wanted in most fotm random groups nowaday and everyone wants to be an overpowered savage, warriors and berserkers are still a good class and becasue of PF they're a better choice as well instead of an extra savage.
Hibs fotm is without a doubt Blademasters. Lots of people roll BMs now. BM is one of the best damage dealing tanks nowaday and if you have 3 BMs in an assist train all frontloading Flurry + TW + Ice Storm / Snow Shower it can be nasty. Add in a Hero and a Warden and enjoy the damage output. I've had a couple of times where I've been dealt so much damage so fast that it's almost insta death. Granted they are specced pierce ofc..
BaF has given our gg some good fights and they use a BM setup.
People adapt or at least tries to adapt, so why doesn't Albs do that as well?
Roll the chars in need if you can't find one and if there are so few of the class as you say it is, then you should find yourself picking from the top of the shelves when it comes to what groups you want to play with.
If you only see savages at mtk, that's why people roll them when that's what random groups want. Fotm or not, doesn't matter, if the class is needed/wanted, a lot of people rolls them.
Stop playing your old fire wizzies and roll a new toon that's good and in demand for rvr and things will be a lot better. Caster groups are mostly for Hibs imo, since they got access to GP.
It's also a huge advantage if you have access to buffbots at your tk. If your tanks doesn't loose their buffs when you kill their support then they are still very powerful. And in Mid you need a buffbot to be able to get specs for the whole group, so more and more buffbots will see the light.
That's my cents.
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Originally posted by Hatt
Albs are curious why the lose vs mid groups so much.
Same goes with hibs.. bot not in the same scale
Ok some things i have noticed lately.
Mids mostly run in organised groups. Guild groups or just organised random groups.
Hibs started to do this also. Nice! Sometimes its a great challenge
Albs.. Seem to invite almost anything and just run out.. Ive seen groups without mincer, groups being lead by armsmen etc.
And when they encounter mids, they have no tactic at all, and even worse if they meet guild groups like NP
FC groups are sometimes good, tho they don't play much anymore. (why?)
Anyways, just some things ive noticed latly and would like to write about
Also to hibs :great: for atleast trying different groups setups and so, before whining.
And it has nothing at all to do with a mid tank class with 2-3 times the damage output of any other tank class, a healing class with the greatest survivability of any healing class in the game, and a chain armoured insta healing cc'er with more forms of cc than any other class in the game.
Nope. Nothing to do with this - its all organisation and superior skills.
Any Mid that believes this please come to Alb and show us how those superior skills and organisation works on inferior classes.
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be nice to Hatteh 
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Silenzio
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA HAHAHAHAHAAHHA
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Gahldir
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Re: Re: Ehm.. What ive seen
the RG groups pretty much fucks up all the time and you shouldhave a possitive win:lose rate vs these.
the RG groups pretty much fucks up all the time and you shouldhave a possitive win:lose rate vs these.
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Re: Re: Ehm.. What ive seen
give me justice..gimme free rp's!!
bah .. no alb has ever given my shaman free rp
give me justice..gimme free rp's!!
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Gregstah you mean the account which you have in hibernia ?? Envenom?? just surprises me that you have managed to make RR7 on that one when you started the game after the char was allready made . Now before you claim any credibillity and knowledge of this game try and level a lvl 50 char yourself and make RR7 instead of coming here with ebay char number 5 and claim you are uber. I know, and you know that you are nothing but an Ebay wannabee, if you want me to get get proof with personal info ill do that You swap accounts faster than other people make alts, sofar you have had how many chars ? 5 8 or 10 ??? and each time you come here and claim uber knowledge of the game the chars, and insult people with your unfounded postulations based on the PRESUMPTION you have made the realm ranks on all those chars.
Last but not the least, it will be a cold day in hell before you and your friend will get into HB, no matter how much you claim me and you are real life friends!!! Since when was that the case ?? I mean WTF do you think, not only do you rip off friends accounts for gear then you want to get into the guild, now piss off!
And sorry for highjacking thread !!
. Now before you claim any credibillity and knowledge of this game try and level a lvl 50 char yourself and make RR7 instead of coming here with ebay char number 5 and claim you are uber. I know, and you know that you are nothing but an Ebay wannabee, if you want me to get get proof with personal info ill do that You swap accounts faster than other people make alts, sofar you have had how many chars ? 5 8 or 10 ??? and each time you come here and claim uber knowledge of the game the chars, and insult people with your unfounded postulations based on the PRESUMPTION you have made the realm ranks on all those chars.Last but not the least, it will be a cold day in hell before you and your friend will get into HB, no matter how much you claim me and you are real life friends!!! Since when was that the case ?? I mean WTF do you think, not only do you rip off friends accounts for gear then you want to get into the guild, now piss off!
And sorry for highjacking thread !!
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alme
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Re: Re: Ehm.. What ive seen
tbh if u manage to lose with 2x bof + sos vs a melee grp ure fucking sucky. And yes i know its every 30 mins but atleast then u should win.
tbh if u manage to lose with 2x bof + sos vs a melee grp ure fucking sucky. And yes i know its every 30 mins but atleast then u should win.
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Originally posted by Hatt
FC groups are sometimes good, tho they don't play much anymore. (why?)
we always have 1fg up everynight from about 6-7pm gmt.
if emain is zergwars or 16man fg's then we usually go elsewhere and hence u wont see us
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what he said
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old.lewstherin
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Originally posted by JawZ
lol so clueless, because we were playing PvP and alot of people were playing on prydwen... How could they not get pwned when all the keyplayers wern't there... and when we got back we totally wtfpwned hibbies again and no savages back then
Needless to say we wtfpwned with our rm groups as well before that ^_^
Not a surpising responce... its always an excuse...
Ras down... you got the jump.. tank looked the wrong way... bla bla bla... boring
Maybe ask urself why they did play on pryd back then and why not now? Try a challange from time to time imo
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Re: Re: Ehm.. What ive seen
a h2h savage outdamage a bm with 25% on average. 3 svges < 4 BM:s dmgwise.
a h2h savage outdamage a bm with 25% on average. 3 svges < 4 BM:s dmgwise.
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old.krane
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Another shamless, pointless NP brag about how they pwn rr3 2h pallys
clap clap
u truly rox...
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clap clap
u truly rox...
:sleeping: :sleeping:
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Scenario:
A new player to the game starts off a wizzy on alb, he spends months and months leveling and learning his char and finally dings 50. Great, now time for some RvR so he ports to emain where he stands for hours trying to get a group.
Now why should you have to play certain classes to be useful in RvR, every class should have a use and not be made redundant.
As i explained earlier in this thread, ppl don't wanna play sorcs cos even in a *perfect* group they're the softest/easiest target and most of the time don't survive more than 5s. Where's the fun in that?
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Originally posted by old.lewstherin
Is this another LOOK I EXIST and/or brag post?
What u mean hibs started to do guild grps?
Hibs have done orginised guild grps for as long as I remember and pwned mids in patches when we where fotm. When NP got so pwned they stopped playing exc. Try to brag when u get skillz k thanx..
Next
edit: Btw boring topic too.. nothing new
You or your guild has never ever "pwned" anyone.
LA was hard when mid didnt have end regen but that's about it.
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old.Icebreaker
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I see
You are Mr. Clueless
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parlain
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There are the people who will reroll because there is a surplus of the class and there are the people who will cling to the class they levelled because they enjoy it and don't mind either waiting xx hours for a group.
There is not a problem with either style of play no matter how much we whine about the perceived zergs of so called n00b players who have to bunch together to avoid being food for the RvR guilds (who generally contain players who are willing to make decent groups); everyone pays the subscription fee and in theory every can do what they want-the solo mitigation facotor tends to be common courtesy and respect that doesn't allow things to decend into chaos.
Alb seems to have the largest number of these "I want to play the character I rolled no matter what" and thus Alb has the largest roaming mass of players and will forever more be blamed for zerging.
As for why so many charaters are redundant in RvR; to be honest you can do fairly well with some oddball groups (PBAE grps, Nuking Groups) but at the heart of it you really need Speed, CC and Healing; now why would the players who play the classes you term as being softest targets and no fun (otherwise known as the support...) play with random groups that take this attitude?
That's why you rarely find clerics and sorcs outside of guild groups; the majority of the player base seems to glory in death messages and are unwilling to sacrifice thier "fun factor" to be able to do so.
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again
http://daoc.catacombs.com/classlist.cfm
focus abilities spreeded on more different char
and btw this is a game not a public service
and u forget that some ppl "new player" could need 30/40 day played to reach 50... they have right n will to enjoy rvr with that char...
wile some older... can pl his own alt in 4/5 play day... isnt it?
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parlain
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New players do indeed have the right and will to enjoy RvR with the characters they rolled but old players also have the right to want to play with a decent group mix, having also done that 30/40 day played back when it was much harder to level and many of whom have rerolled to fill lack of classes. I know I value my sorcs and clerics much more than my tanks as they have the harder task extracting fun from the game.
The days of randomly grabbing a group and running about faded long long ago when guilds started to focus more and more on RvR
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or maybe they don't play 12 hours a day so rolling another 50 isn't quite so easy....?
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parlain
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With /level and the new dungeons/xp spots even casual players can level another 50 in a short space of time-it's not like before when the solo place you could get grps was at twees and you didn't have a strong player base and plenty of strong guilds to help you out.
With over 1000 people in Alb during evenings and only around 200 of them RvRing there's either alot of bots or a goodly amount of lving is taking place
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well cept sorcer (have some problem with cloth weare)
from the old days as group char ive:
1 armsman
2 clerik
more recent :
minstrel
u know that sometimes is harder to find a group for my clerik than for the arms
sometimes i get invited as inf too
nha think only real way to go is guild group...
but need to be a strong core guild group
even better if rl friend...
otherwise is just the %
is not like the old day when everyone were low lvl
and u all had to exp hours past hours
knowing ppl and ejoin them...
now u join a guild and everyone have theyr business allready set...
that is
from the old days as group char ive:
1 armsman
2 clerik
more recent :
minstrel
u know that sometimes is harder to find a group for my clerik than for the arms
sometimes i get invited as inf too
nha think only real way to go is guild group...
but need to be a strong core guild group
even better if rl friend...
otherwise is just the %
is not like the old day when everyone were low lvl
and u all had to exp hours past hours
knowing ppl and ejoin them...
now u join a guild and everyone have theyr business allready set...
that is
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brommix shhh
brommix. you havent played the game for 5monthes now and tbh u dont know sh*t you are ignorent and think you own the world. lets set the record straight here. you know how to play a Infiltrator but u play every other class like my balls.
u have never in ur life played a group friendly char. ok fine u played a char 2times in ur life and suck at it even more.
you have returned to the game because you dont have a life welcome to the club m8. now do me a favor and get back into the noob line til u know how to play against the new char in the game.
i personly dont have anything against you but sometimes ur attitude gets to me. respect other players of ur realm and dont abuse them with ur Hb guild joining. you are nothing but a member now you have as much to say as my behind.
Reroll a group friendly class then open ur filthy mouth.
and to hatt. Gregstah is right. albs seem to invite randoms for the fun of rvr not to ding rr10 asap. and the few guild that have go to rvr for and suddenly are a pala short. they invite a random pala. and the pala doesnt know how to stick. then gets the group moral down and they log to play bg alts if they cant find a guild pala..
Out.
brommix. you havent played the game for 5monthes now and tbh u dont know sh*t you are ignorent and think you own the world. lets set the record straight here. you know how to play a Infiltrator but u play every other class like my balls.
u have never in ur life played a group friendly char. ok fine u played a char 2times in ur life and suck at it even more.
you have returned to the game because you dont have a life welcome to the club m8. now do me a favor and get back into the noob line til u know how to play against the new char in the game.
i personly dont have anything against you but sometimes ur attitude gets to me. respect other players of ur realm and dont abuse them with ur Hb guild joining. you are nothing but a member now you have as much to say as my behind.
Reroll a group friendly class then open ur filthy mouth.
and to hatt. Gregstah is right. albs seem to invite randoms for the fun of rvr not to ding rr10 asap. and the few guild that have go to rvr for and suddenly are a pala short. they invite a random pala. and the pala doesnt know how to stick. then gets the group moral down and they log to play bg alts if they cant find a guild pala..
Out.
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A thought i had when reading this thread, albs say the have such a huge shortage on some classes and blaim their bad grps on that.
Why dont you roll them then?
In hib i notice that when a class is missing so it gets a problem loads of people roll one, not maybe 100% becouse they want it but becouse the rvr grps need it to be able to put up a fight.
Atleast thats how i see it in IG, lacked druids 1 month ago, now have 5-6 active.
Why dont you roll them then?
In hib i notice that when a class is missing so it gets a problem loads of people roll one, not maybe 100% becouse they want it but becouse the rvr grps need it to be able to put up a fight.
Atleast thats how i see it in IG, lacked druids 1 month ago, now have 5-6 active.