Ehm.. What ive seen

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Hatt

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Albs are curious why the lose vs mid groups so much.
Same goes with hibs.. bot not in the same scale :p

Ok some things i have noticed lately.

Mids mostly run in organised groups. Guild groups or just organised random groups.
Hibs started to do this also. Nice! Sometimes its a great challenge ;) (For example, Domains groups and LA, BaF, IG -groups)

Albs.. Seem to invite almost anything and just run out.. Ive seen groups without mincer, groups being lead by armsmen etc.
And when they encounter mids, they have no tactic at all, and even worse if they meet guild groups like NP ;) (Can't answer for other mid guilds), but when they meet us.. like 4/8 of the alb group members sits down. I mean how do you expect to have any chance at all?
FC groups are sometimes good, tho they don't play much anymore. (why?) :)


Anyways, just some things ive noticed latly and would like to write about:)
Also to hibs :great: for atleast trying different groups setups and so, before whining. :)
 
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grimster

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Har du fått lov o äta starkare nudlar nu när du e NP?
 
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Hatt

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Originally posted by grimster
Har du fått lov o äta starkare nudlar nu när du e NP?

De där va väll riktigt jävla dumt sagt endå :(
 
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Glottis_Xanadu

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Originally posted by Hatt
Anyways, just some things ive noticed latly and would like to write about:)
Also to hibs :great: for atleast trying different groups setups and so, before whining. :)

Yeah, silly that Albs don't run around in perfect groups.
Cause that really makes a big difference.

Actually, with all RA's active, and Alb group has a slight chance if some fotm NP, JH, RG group fucks up a bit.
That is why Albs still rvr, hoping some lame ass fotm Mid group fucks up.
The rest of the time we enjoy giving away free rp's to "balanced" savages and healers.
Regards, Glottis
 
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grimster

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Originally posted by Hatt
De där va väll riktigt jävla dumt sagt endå :(

Nej varför var det det det?

Du beter dig ju som en liten kaxig idiot nu sen du blev NP.
 
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behatch

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Re: Re: Ehm.. What ive seen

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
Yeah, silly that Albs don't run around in perfect groups.
Cause that really makes a big difference.

Actually, with all RA's active, and Alb group has a slight chance if some fotm NP, JH, RG group fucks up a bit.
That is why Albs still rvr, hoping some lame ass fotm Mid group fucks up.
The rest of the time we enjoy giving away free rp's to "balanced" savages and healers.
Regards, Glottis

do any off your posts not have fotm-stfu-nerf savages or sb are gay in them
 
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kinag

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Re: Re: Re: Ehm.. What ive seen

Originally posted by behatch
do any off your posts not have fotm-stfu-nerf savages or sb are gay in them

no :eek:
 
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congin

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Originally posted by grimster
Nej varför var det det det?

Du beter dig ju som en liten kaxig idiot nu sen du blev NP.

och det har med saken att göra?



anyway... i do agree with you, it's the same for most hibs that run in balanced groups (which i hope we all do by now), alb pickup groups go down really easy 1fg vs. 1fg.

But i still wonder how it came to be the situtation with mids atm. Many times the groups i've been in done flawless fights, everyone is doing everything exactly right and still you just can't beat a mid group that is a little organized.


edit: not whine, just some facts and thoughts
 
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Hatt

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Originally posted by congin
och det har med saken att göra?



anyway... i do agree with you, it's the same for most hibs that run in balanced groups (which i hope we all do by now), alb pickup groups go down really easy 1fg vs. 1fg.

But i still wonder how it came to be the situtation with mids atm. Many times the groups i've been in done flawless fights, everyone is doing everything exactly right and still you just can't beat a mid group that is a little organized.


edit: not whine, just some facts and thoughts

Fun with someone that understands :p
Im not realy afraid to admit that mid >> everything atm.. but well thats how it is... and as i said.. :great: for atleast trying:)
 
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elyand

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grimster

sluta hacka på min lilla tuss, o sluta zerga :|
 
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azshara

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Originally posted by grimster
Nej varför var det det det?

Du beter dig ju som en liten kaxig idiot nu sen du blev NP.
sluta hacka på linus pucko.
 
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brommix

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no thats not what you said, you implied the reason albs die is because we are noobs and dont know or dont want to make perfect groups, you then later ackowledge that mids, as a realm, are superior to what albs can produce, therefore you are a hypocrit like 90 procent of your pathetic guild :).
 
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old.lewstherin

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Is this another LOOK I EXIST and/or brag post?

What u mean hibs started to do guild grps?

Hibs have done orginised guild grps for as long as I remember and pwned mids in patches when we where fotm. When NP got so pwned they stopped playing exc. Try to brag when u get skillz k thanx..

Next:m00:

edit: Btw boring topic too.. nothing new
 
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censi

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mids are overpowered atm dude...

all realms have good players and good guilds.

The perfect mid grp is way greater than the perfect hib grp which is now en par with the perfect alb grp.

With random grps who cares.
 
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Blazor Meneth

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Re: Re: Ehm.. What ive seen

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
Yeah, silly that Albs don't run around in perfect groups.
Cause that really makes a big difference.

Actually, with all RA's active, and Alb group has a slight chance if some fotm NP, JH, RG group fucks up a bit.
That is why Albs still rvr, hoping some lame ass fotm Mid group fucks up.
The rest of the time we enjoy giving away free rp's to "balanced" savages and healers.
Regards, Glottis

:ROFLMAO:

Your THE joke :D
SO funneh to read what u post
 
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Tilda

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Originally posted by Hatt
FC groups are sometimes good, tho they don't play much anymore. (why?) :)

Only 1 active sorc = 1 group up at a time.
We generally have 1 group up every day but seldom 2. And if your running in 2+ fg in emain, rest assured, we'll be in odins :p

Tilda
 
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kirennia

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Originally posted by censi
mids are overpowered atm dude...

all realms have good players and good guilds.

The perfect mid grp is way greater than the perfect hib grp which is now en par with the perfect alb grp.

With random grps who cares.

agreed...been having a lot of fun recently versus hib groups, not a lot vs. mid groups as its a 80/20 win atm vs them :/
 
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pitspawn

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About all albs random grabbing people, wrong IMO. Spent an hour and a half lfg at emain atk because groups making perfect setups which i dont fit into.

I love it when people claim that an entire realm is loosing because of their lack of skill, when clearly its the game mechanics that is at fault. OFC mids win because their average IQ is 100 points higher and much superiour reflexes to their alb counterparts :rolleyes:
 
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Dorin

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Originally posted by kirennia
agreed...been having a lot of fun recently versus hib groups, not a lot vs. mid groups as its a 80/20 win atm vs them :/


so true :)

About the topic itself, the poster is right, many alb grps go out from pk without cleric/mincer... unbalanced. But albion has too many classes and becouse of that its much harder to make a balanced grp then in mid. (when i played exc mid, i never been in a gimp grp... and i was a random skald only). But all you need is 1-3 healers 1 shaman skald and rest tanks and you got a nice grp. In albion you need to find a pala, sometanks, a sorc, clerics, mincer and some of our casters still play, unlike in mid where i didnt see from savage zerg / lots of healers only shammies were problem to get. (in alb rvsr pala, cleric, mincer is underplayed, at least we hassled a lot to find one). But an even a balanced alb rvsr grp without RA's up, without starting off with mezz cant really beat a balanced mid grp if mids dont fuck up royally. Not speaking off what happens if alb MA makes a mistake... usually leading to wipeout. You just got better classes (shaman-healer-savage trio = daoc TOP imo), with better abilities (besides BOF, SOS, SoB 30min timered ras, which we have to rely on badly, unlike you guys) and not just skill (experience in rvsr).

bleh.
 
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Divinia

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yo Tussen, imo as long u got players who trust eachothers and got both experience and experience of playing together and the correct setup u play good, like its only those who give u trouble, like FC,BF,JH,NP etc.

my toughts... btw i roxx, truly
 
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catalina

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Good alb groups are notoriously hard to put together.

Unless you're in an organised guild group, you'll spend the majority of your time at atk waiting on either a cleric or a sorc. Sorc's are virtually non-existent these days cos they drop like a lead weight, which leaves most alb groups without decent CC.
Clerics on the other hand, are abundent at atk, it's just a shame 95% are BB's. You sometimes have to wait up to an hour to get a group with 2 clerics, and running with just 1 cleric is suicide against /assisting savages.

At the moment mid has the biggest advantage for pickup groups since your healers are also your CC.
 
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Ravenbourne

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I have seen albs sit down in the totally random Darkness falls rvr when a fg has come accross a fg. I dont understand it. When my gg come up against NP we know the chances are we will get our arses handed to us but at least we have a go, only way you can ever win is to keep trying.
 
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duact

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hmm most of the times my gg dies is to the zerg at atk-amg road coz we are just bored and charge them, atleast i think it sux that albs say they can not compeate vs mids / hibs when they can.
i think the reason albs just invite anything to grps, like grps with 3-4 paladins and no cleric / sorc etc.. is coz they think they got no chance of winning. ALB grps can win vs mid fotm grps but that wont happend as long as mincers use sos when 5/8 in grp are dead or cleric bof when he is alone left. i have seen a few guilds that have understanded this, im talking about the blue cloaked Royal bavarians who run merc grps in odins pretty often, they are 10 times more fun to fight then the warder/guardian zerg in emain (tho u can kill 2fgs b4 u die). still these royal bavarians who run a pretty opted alb grp setup i think loose evry time they come agaist my gg (atrocity) 1fg vs 1fg, why? they use 2x bof and 1 sos still they dont win dunno why? maby we are fotm and owerpowered and shit.
then fc's ggs are another story they are damn though and when they use 2xbof+sos we have to use almost evrything we got to kill them (reaver in assist team hurts) , they are by far the hardest alb grp atm since bf aint doing much gg's these days.

gogo albs one day we might see a random alb grp that does not sos and run back to atk when they see us or even a grp with 2 clerics and a sorc!
 
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Lumikki

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You people, including Hatts, do know that not every mid wants to run in a perfect fotm group.......?

Curse fotm groups to hell.

xx
 
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azshara2

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Originally posted by Divinia
yo Tussen, imo as long u got players who trust eachothers and got both experience and experience of playing together and the correct setup u play good, like its only those who give u trouble, like FC,BF,JH,NP etc.

my toughts... btw i roxx, truly
snart dh!! ;z
 
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JawZ

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Originally posted by old.lewstherin
Hibs have done orginised guild grps for as long as I remember and pwned mids in patches when we where fotm. When NP got so pwned they stopped playing exc. Try to brag when u get skillz k thanx..

lol so clueless, because we were playing PvP and alot of people were playing on prydwen... How could they not get pwned when all the keyplayers wern't there... and when we got back we totally wtfpwned hibbies again and no savages back then :p
Needless to say we wtfpwned with our rm groups as well before that ^_^
 
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-yoda-

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Originally posted by catalina
Good alb groups are notoriously hard to put together.

Unless you're in an organised guild group, you'll spend the majority of your time at atk waiting on either a cleric or a sorc. Sorc's are virtually non-existent these days cos they drop like a lead weight, which leaves most alb groups without decent CC.
Clerics on the other hand, are abundent at atk, it's just a shame 95% are BB's. You sometimes have to wait up to an hour to get a group with 2 clerics, and running with just 1 cleric is suicide against /assisting savages.

At the moment mid has the biggest advantage for pickup groups since your healers are also your CC.


this imo says it all , spot on post .

shit loads of cleric sin emain VERY high% are buffbots those that are not buffbots get snapped up by there guild grps . or snapped up by the well known rvr guild grps who need a 2nd cleric ,
as said also above sorcs die so fast not many sorcs around,,

and mincers can be just as rare at times also .. seems a lot of mincers are alpha wanabe's these days and try solo "cos they just ding there bb lvl50" .. or they wanna grp up with scouts/infils ...

can be very hard to find the 3 main ingrediants of a alb grp (heals/mezz/speed) . tons of mercs/pallys/arms and lots of wizzys ,, but not the core of the grp essentials . :( sad but true .
 

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