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[Chilly]

Yes, I think the most basic (don't kill your species, don't kill children) are a human trait, survival of the species kind of stuff. Thats my opinion.

Killing ones own species is quite common, spiders eating other spiders, scavenger species eating corpses of same species bypassing the "dont eat own species" anti infection safety - killing the guy thats camping your hunting ground will do you and your family good and it happens much in many species.

I'm not sure I agree with the upbringing side of things though, Tom, because you must have had some positive influence from SOMEWHERE else you wouldnt have grown up into such a fine chap (hmmm). While built in personality traits are certainly fact - I think they are not strong enough to overcome something that has been taught from day 1. For example - very young babies enjoy putting EVERYTHING they can find into their mouthes - this is a cunning way of building up the immune system, but you don;t see many 20 year olds eating shit or soil now do you? Why? Because mummy tells you off for it and stops you doing it before you even get to 1 or 1.5 yrs old.

With full immersion in antisocial behavior where actions are seen to have little or no consequences it will seem the natural thing to wear a burberry cap (ahem, only joking) and become a complete twat and generally waste your life scrounging off society and annoying people - humans can and do act 100% selfishly, given a choice and protection from critisism i suspect most people would act that way - i bloody would, why work when you can doss for the same results? I don't because I know it wouldnt be the same result but some people do and its because they are lazy and do not know the general idea of a society.

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[tankgirl_ni]

My view of Northern Ireland's situation is that its NOT about religion.. it has NOTHING to do with it. the chances of going into a chapel or a church on a sunday and seeing any of those biggoted bums on seats is VERY slim.
i've lived here all my life and there is so much pathetic arguements from both sides. none of them really know what theyre bickering about anymore.
there's no hope for this country because its bred into the 'chav' kids from day one that they should grow up to hate the other side because either cuz there eyes are too close together, or too far apart.
and its gone from sectarianism to down right racism in the past few years. its just become a case of hate everything that isn't what you are.
and now when you apply for a job over here you have to fill in a wee form that asks you to tick boxes : catholic / protestant or other. so that neither side can say the other is taking more jobs?!
for a country thats so damn beautiful, its definately masked by the stupidity of the minority of thick thugs that make the headlines.
as for our politicians.. most of them have been or are members of 'paramiliatry' organisations anyway which is why i dont see the point in voting. its just a vicious circle.