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Javai

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Many people hasn't seen encounter before and being decent people we allowed anyone around to join for credit so had to explain to them how to avoid messing the encounter up.

Frankly your posts are exactly what I expected as response my intention was simply to allow others to see for themselves what AD are like in game and out of it. Job done.
 

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Congratulation Farek what a fine upstanding guild you have created :(

There was 2fg of people doing the encounter because people want credit, those 2fg didn't just consist of KoP members but all the people who stand around waiting for someone to do this encounter so they can get credit. We were helping these people out, a concept that seems alien to AD. AD saw fit that only a paladin and a cleric should get encounter credit and the artifact. According to their SoM posts if the group is wiped OR the encounter resets, that's that groups go over, did Farek stop when the encounter reset 3 times? Of course not. Did he stop when our caster was trying to place an agro field in front so we could start? Of course not again, he carried on pulling and then a mysterious 3rd member arrives who must have travelled from Snowdonia and places an agro field ontop of our dead caster. There is no moral excuse for the actions of AD they hide behind the CoC, but when the CoC doesn't fit, like in RvR they switch to polite no adding rules. You want moral/honourable rules for PvE and RvR AD you better be consistent in both.

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Has Farek changed accounts? I remember him form FC days and he was always a decent sort. Kinda shit behaviour recently involving AD, perhaps faz should take a step back and look at what he has created.
 

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FOTM pep's before all, face it, it's more importent AD get the artifact than a random zergling........

And yes, now i know why i not buyed ToA yet, to much :m00:
 

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elbeek said:
Has Farek changed accounts? I remember him form FC days and he was always a decent sort. Kinda shit behaviour recently involving AD, perhaps faz should take a step back and look at what he has created.
:wub:
 

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Talifer said:
Congratulation Farek what a fine upstanding guild you have created :(

There was 2fg of people doing the encounter because people want credit, those 2fg didn't just consist of KoP members but all the people who stand around waiting for someone to do this encounter so they can get credit. We were helping these people out, a concept that seems alien to AD. AD saw fit that only a paladin and a cleric should get encounter credit and the artifact. According to their SoM posts if the group is wiped OR the encounter resets, that's that groups go over, did Farek stop when the encounter reset 3 times? Of course not. Did he stop when our caster was trying to place an agro field in front so we could start? Of course not again, he carried on pulling and then a mysterious 3rd member arrives who must have travelled from Snowdonia and places an agro field ontop of our dead caster. There is no moral excuse for the actions of AD they hide behind the CoC, but when the CoC doesn't fit, like in RvR they switch to polite no adding rules. You want moral/honourable rules for PvE and RvR AD you better be consistent in both.

Talifer
We only have to "steal" 484 more artifacts to get even with the albzerg.
 

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Talifer said:
There was 2fg of people doing the encounter because people want credit, those 2fg didn't just consist of KoP members but all the people who stand around waiting for someone to do this encounter so they can get credit.

Then you ask if you can join bg or smth. You do not go up and try to pull salamanders, devotees and other random mobs towards the ones doing the encounter.

We were helping these people out, a concept that seems alien to AD. AD saw fit that only a paladin and a cleric should get encounter credit and the artifact.

It's not like more than 1 tartaros will drop if you do it with 2-3fgs. For encounter credit - see above.

According to their SoM posts if the group is wiped OR the encounter resets, that's that groups go over, did Farek stop when the encounter reset 3 times? Of course not. Did he stop when our caster was trying to place an agro field in front so we could start?

Strong solo caster trying to set up a storm without anyone tanking Akil. YES, THAT IS A GOOD ATTEMPT.

Of course not again, he carried on pulling and then a mysterious 3rd member arrives who must have travelled from Snowdonia and places an agro field ontop of our dead caster.

Because you made salamanders spawn by standing in a circle around us spamming /rude we had to get a stormlord there.

There is no moral excuse for the actions of AD they hide behind the CoC, but when the CoC doesn't fit, like in RvR they switch to polite no adding rules. You want moral/honourable rules for PvE and RvR AD you better be consistent in both.

We care about the albzerg just as much as the albzerg cares for us.
 

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elbeek said:
Has Farek changed accounts? I remember him form FC days and he was always a decent sort. Kinda shit behaviour recently involving AD, perhaps faz should take a step back and look at what he has created.

He mixed with mids...
 

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If you wanna get back at AD just take 3fg and follow them around everywhere in RvR and leech all their kills.
 

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Let me get this straight Katt!.... You are trying to justify shitty behaviour in PvE, by saying that something has happened in RvR a while ago?
I mean, how does that even work? For me PvE and RvR are 2 different things, and even when they are the same things for you, how can you 'pay back' some random guild for something that the alledged 'Albzerg' has done in oh so many occasions... So when the windows of your car get crashed, you run up to some random car and smash his windows, or is this a personal vendetta against KoP?

Either way, you are not making much sense.
 

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No.

I'm saying I care about random_albs pve as much as random_albs care about our rvr. I expect nothing from them, they shouldn't expect anything from us.
 

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Methos said:
If you wanna get back at AD just take 3fg and follow them around everywhere in RvR and leech all their kills.
Gratz, you just described a normal day in emain.
 

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Fair enough, you seem to be coping with some sort of superiority-complex, i overlooked that one, but i do know what you are on about now, thanks :)

Edit: spelling
 

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Grats to all the fuck tards for there typical replies :clap:
 

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katt! said:
No.

I'm saying I care about random_albs pve as much as random_albs care about our rvr. I expect nothing from them, they shouldn't expect anything from us.

"Your" rvr.

Let me know when the rest of us are allowed in, eh? I'll start paying full subs from then on.
 

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Glorien said:
He mixed with mids...
The only active mid (ex. mid ;>) in AD is hemulen. Afaik GoL have equal or more amount ;o (zorena)
 

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katt! said:
Then you ask if you can join bg or smth. You do not go up and try to pull salamanders, devotees and other random mobs towards the ones doing the encounter..

Good idea, so why didn't do it? Since we were doing the encounter not you?

katt! said:
It's not like more than 1 tartaros will drop if you do it with 2-3fgs. For encounter credit - see above.

So you get the credit with your caster, then do the encounter for the drop with your paladin who has an easier time with it. Alternatively there's plenty of lame people out there who'll steal an artifact and sell it on a merchant.

katt! said:
Strong solo caster trying to set up a storm without anyone tanking Akil. YES, THAT IS A GOOD ATTEMPT.

Makes no odds what 'kind' of attempt it was, we were attempting it so you shouldn't. Next time I see you in RvR and think, hmmm they should'nt have mezzed there can I jump in and take over?

katt! said:
Because you made salamanders spawn by standing in a circle around us spamming /rude we had to get a stormlord there.

Ah I see, because we were doing the encounter and thus spawning salamanders you needed further help in order to steal it from us successfully. Plus the spamming /rude is only in your mind

katt! said:
We care about the albzerg just as much as the albzerg cares for us.

If you don't care for albs, reroll pryd

None of your worthless replies justify your in game actions though. You hover like vultures around players trying to accomplish something where others would accept the situation and move on. You're greedy and selfish attitudes make Exc/Albion and DAoC a worse place to be for the rest of us.

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Talifer said:
Good idea, so why didn't do it? Since we were doing the encounter not you?

You were not doing the encounter, unless you count pulling mobs to wipe us as "doing the encounter". Btw, why would we mind people getting credit when we just need the staff?

Makes no odds what 'kind' of attempt it was, we were attempting it so you shouldn't. Next time I see you in RvR and think, hmmm they should'nt have mezzed there can I jump in and take over?

When your caster died our tank was already rezzed, buffed and ready to go again. Since noone was attacking the mob when the caster died we just pulled again.

Ah I see, because we were doing the encounter and thus spawning salamanders you needed further help in order to steal it from us successfully. Plus the spamming /rude is only in your mind

So you wouldn't mind me pulling the entire FoS on you when you are tanking Sebak?

None of your worthless replies justify your in game actions though. You hover like vultures around players trying to accomplish something where others would accept the situation and move on. You're greedy and selfish attitudes make Exc/Albion and DAoC a worse place to be for the rest of us.

Talifer

Yes we are selfish, we put the guild before randoms we don't know. Heh, "Accept the situation and move on" -- exactly what you and your zerg is doing right now eh? Tartaros should have spawned now or in an hour, rally the randoms and go get it.
 

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katt! said:
You were not doing the encounter, unless you count pulling mobs to wipe us as "doing the encounter".

The mobs that came to you came AFTER you took the encounter from us. I count 2fgs buffing on an ecounter spot as doing it.

katt! said:
Yes we are selfish, we put the guild before randoms we don't know. Heh, "Accept the situation and move on" -- exactly what you and your zerg is doing right now eh? Tartaros should have spawned now or in an hour, rally the randoms and go get it

What is this 'randoms' crap because we're not a full guild group we're less worthy or because we prefer to help people out? Next time lets form a queue in order of rr of caster its for eh?
 

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Javai said:
The mobs that came to you came AFTER you took the encounter from us. I count 2fgs buffing on an ecounter spot as doing it.
Sure, sure. If you had done the encounter any other way than the zerg2win strategy.. you would know that:

1) salamanders don't spawn if you are 2-3 ppl inside the priest area. You just had to drag the randomsquad up there to cause 1000000000 salamanders to spawn, passive griefing -- good job albheart.

2) devotees do not path there, now they did for some reason -- care to explain why?

3) Some tards decided to hit the mob even though we had engaged it, hi der coc breakers.

What is this 'randoms' crap because we're not a full guild group we're less worthy or because we prefer to help people out? Next time lets form a queue in order of rr of caster its for eh?

..or let the first group that is ready take the mob, it's your problem if you bring a 2.5fg zerg and need 1h preptime for a duoable mob.
 

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Am locking this to avoid further mudslinging due to contact made by AD GM.

(if I can work out how)


Can't work out how to close thread - should a mod stumble by please do it for me
 

Javai

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katt! said:
2) devotees do not path there, now they did for some reason -- care to explain why?


The devotee was aggrod by your Theurgist (or Wizard I forget Stormsomethingorother as he came from the Haven). They sit on the hillside near the Salamander.

Anyway case closed throw mud in the other thread if you must.
 

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Javai said:
but 2 fgs were waiting there, one of who had been watching spawn all day
He must have been hiding the 4-5 times I checked on Tartaros today then.

Feel free to whine about AD all you like, but theres no need to exaggerate your story.
 

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Draylor said:
He must have been hiding the 4-5 times I checked on Tartaros today then.

Feel free to whine about AD all you like, but theres no need to exaggerate your story.

Wasn't meant to exaggerate the person who told me camped all day was outside my guild but part of the bg, he wasn't a power gamer and asked me how it could be fair he camped for 7 hours yet if he hit the mob they pulled HE was in the wrong...sadly I had no acceptable answer for him :(
 

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If he wants to 'camp' waiting for spawns for hours tell him to go play Everquest. The only thing it achieves on a regular basis is annoying the person doing the waiting - and leads to endless whine threads here.
 

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Draylor said:
If he wants to 'camp' waiting for spawns for hours tell him to go play Everquest. The only thing it achieves on a regular basis is annoying the person doing the waiting - and leads to endless whine threads here.


I agree, a single person camping a spot doesn't automatically give you any rights to the spawn (though personally I choose to give people a fair go first or even help them in return for credit). But really I think having 2fgs ready to do an encounter should count for something.

And go on allow me one whine thread in 2.5 years of DaoC :)
 
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