Dunno about you.

[Aoami]

If they can't read something and actually think about it, it's pointless

i thought about it long and hard, trying to peice together what that comment could possibly mean. lo and behold, i came to the conclusion that it makes absoutely no sense, because it doesn't. theres no point trying to argue it, because it just doesn't, it really doesn't.

 

[Nate]

I ate a whole burger once while behind the wheel, but I done it in a safe environment.

Spoiler

I was parked.

 

[soze]

I don't think it's safe, i think it can be done safely.

What makes you think it can be done safely? Taking your eyes off the road for 5 seconds even on a perfectly straight road could cause death. I could read my text i could also close my eyes for 5 seconds i might get away with it 999 times out of a thousand but i one time it means i crash and kill someone means its not safe, so can't be done safely imo.

 

[Thadius]

I wonder if the guys on the BangBus have ever crashed midthrust?

 

[adoNix]

I wonder if the guys on the BangBus have ever crashed midthrust?

lol!

 

[old.Tohtori]

What makes you think it can be done safely? Taking your eyes off the road for 5 seconds even on a perfectly straight road could cause death. I could read my text i could also close my eyes for 5 seconds i might get away with it 999 times out of a thousand but i one time it means i crash and kill someone means its not safe, so can't be done safely imo.

When you hold the phone next to the wheel, do it in a straight road, when there's no traffic, don't do it in traffic circles etc etc.

It's not safe, as in it's not really a smart move, but you can do it safely, as in make sure you don't crash because of it.

No one is saying text it all at once, or that you stare at your lap, you assume i mean that.

That's not doing it safely.

And anyone who crashes because of a glance at the radio or a glance at the phone on the seat, is being silly and NOT paying attention. Good drivers know when they can take their eyes off the road for a second or two.

Aoami; soze got it.

 

[Nate]

The point is though, accidents wouldn't happen if you knew when they were going to. I don't think it's right to say one piece of road is safe to do something that is dangerous, all road is dangerous. It doesn't matter if it's straight, or that no one is anywhere near you. You don't know what is coming up, anything can and will happen. Things that you can't see from your position in the road, ie. Someone walks across the road from behind a car. You thought the road was clear and it was safe to text but you can't see and predict everything, maintaining as much attention as possible at all times is the only real way of avoiding accidents.

 

[old.Tohtori]

maintaining as much attention as possible at all times is the only real way of avoiding accidents.

And there we go, focusing on texting is, as i said on my first post, silly.

No one drives with a 24/7 attention on the road, with no exceptions.

People change radio stations, switch CDs and so on.

Stupid drivers do it when it's a high possibility to crash.

And you can't say every piece of road is equal in danger.

So what one should focus on is teaching people WHEN it's a good spot to fiddle the radio etc. Because honestly every example of crashes on this thread have been in silly places.

People don't like "You should not do this or people die!", but they are more open to "This is how you can change your CD without danger".

 

[Fafnir]

They should just make it illegal to do anything else while driving, you are handling a lethal weapon and you got a license. An accident is just a few seconds away.

Was nearly sideswiped two weeks ago with my dad, he has never been in an accident.
We got green light, checked around seeing nothing, drove out round the bend came a semi doin 100 km/h, dads see's it out of the corner of his eye and hits the pedal to the metal and the semi passes around 1m behind us. Thank god for his engine. The semi's driver had been checking his pappers for next delivery stop and missed his red light.

 

[Bugz]

edit - do not feed the troll

 

[old.Tohtori]

Toht you are missing a multitude of very important points which all stem from the fact you have no experience driving.

I do have experience in driving, just don't have a license.

All the other points you made, are what i've been saying;

A: Never said taking attention off road is good. (said it can be done without danger)
B: People not being able to tell between safe and unsafe are not competent drivers.
C: Just what i said.
D: Not everywhere. Just as said, location location.

Read what I AM saying not just what BULLSHIT you are claiming i say.

Capitals for emphasis, naturally.

edit - do not feed the troll

Change your valid arguments into this? Grow up.

Problem with you Bugz is that you make up your mind about what you think is someones opinion and that's final. No matter what and more times then not, it's the wrong opinion.

 

[Bugz]

Toht everyone on this thread has the same opinion as me lol.

You are trying to argue against it, without a driving license, against people who do and some who have driven for years.

Now I really do need to stop feeding the troll...

 

[TdC]

um guys if there is no ongoing discussion then it's time to give it a rest eh. valid points! and I don't mean gerbils!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Toht everyone on this thread has the same opinion as me lol.

You are trying to argue against it, without a driving license, against people who do and some who have driven for years.

Now I really do need to stop feeding the troll...

Yet you once again show the complete lack of listening, fingers in ears discussion way and bullshit claims.

Don't even try to play your license card on me, most likely i've driven more then you.

But since you're only capable of this, i'll take TdCs advice there and let it go. No matter what i say, the same answers without any regards to what i answer.

 

[Zede]

old.Tohtori is 100% right.

Should we ban parents from carrying babies/toddlers in cars ? ( after all they are a major distraction)

Should we ban changing CDs in car stereos ? ( major distraction)

Should we ban eating in cars ? ( fiddling in my rucksack to open a pack of crisps etc..)

Ive been driving for 20 years, never crashed into anyone, ever - and I do all the above on a regular basis.

Laws & adverts like this are aimed at the lowest common denominator of driver - simple fact is 99% of drivers are perfectly competent at multi tasking whilst driving.

 

[Zede]

Lol this has to be the stupidest thing to ty and argue in favour of.

no it aint, your all just politically correct i dont wanna rock the boat, i wanna be all sensitive & caring type metrosexuals, your mothers & girlfriends must luuuve you all.

*sorry not aimed at you, its aimed at all the tot haters & fairweather liberals, bandwagonesque FHOT sycophants.

bravo for making a point tot, least we have someone on here willing to offer a different point of view, the vast vast majority of ppl on here are just fuckin "agree for fear of being ridiculed" sheeple.

sorry if i offended anyone, but this tot hating is just silly now..

 

[Bugz]

80% of accidents caused by distracted drivers.

65% of near-crashes stemmed from drivers adverted attention in the THREE seconds before the event.

 

[Zede]

80% of accidents caused by distracted drivers.

65% of near-crashes stemmed from driver in attention in the THREE seconds before the event.

Zede, with all respect, you never argue with anything other than complete waffle.

& i honestly dont take kids seriously, young adults like you are so LoL. is that bleating i hear from your lips ?

give as many "stats" as you want - SHIT DRIVERS WILL ALWAYS BE SHIT DRIVERS. take away texting & be 100% sure they will find other ways to kill themselves or others, its just the way of the world

 

[old.Tohtori]

80% of accidents caused by distracted drivers.

65% of near-crashes stemmed from driver in attention in the THREE seconds before the event.

Zede, with all respect, you never argue with anything other than complete waffle.

Shouldn't that mean ANY distraction then? Should we ban all distractive things in the car?

Accidents happen when distractions come at an unfortunate time.

There are good spots to change a CD, there are bad spots to change a CD.

Good drivers know when there is a good and when there is a bad spot to do so.

 

[Bugz]

You do not fuckin know where there are good times and bad times!

The fact accidents progress within 3 seconds of the accident says how you cannot fuckin predict!

Zede: hush! You're coming across as a moron

Anyway - I am fully 100% out of this thread now. I'm an idiot for not getting out when everyone else did.

 

[Aoami]

no it aint, your all just politically correct i dont wanna rock the boat, i wanna be all sensitive & caring type metrosexuals, your mothers & girlfriends must luuuve you all.

*sorry not aimed at you, its aimed at all the tot haters & fairweather liberals, bandwagonesque FHOT sycophants.

bravo for making a point tot, least we have someone on here willing to offer a different point of view, the vast vast majority of ppl on here are just fuckin "agree for fear of being ridiculed" sheeple.

sorry if i offended anyone, but this tot hating is just silly now..

fucking lol, or perhaps toht is just wrong nearly all the time?

 

[old.Tohtori]

You do not fuckin know where there are good times and bad times!

The fact accidents progress within 3 seconds of the accident says how you cannot fuckin predict!

Way to ignore almost complete posts again;

A good time is, for example;

Driving a straight road with no or little traffic(if you can't hold your car straight, you shouldn't drive)
Sitting in stop lights.
etc.

And if distractions cause the accidents, should everything in cars be banned?

Are you saying everyone who does or has any distractions in their car is a bad driver?

 

[CorNokZ]

ofc at a red light when you are not actually driving you could text and I guess you could text on a straight road with slim to none traffic you could aswell, but personally I'd never do it

If a text is urgent I'd pull over to txt/call

 

[soze]

old.Tohtori is 100% right.

Should we ban parents from carrying babies/toddlers in cars ? ( after all they are a major distraction)

Should we ban changing CDs in car stereos ? ( major distraction)

Should we ban eating in cars ? ( fiddling in my rucksack to open a pack of crisps etc..)

Ive been driving for 20 years, never crashed into anyone, ever - and I do all the above on a regular basis.

Laws & adverts like this are aimed at the lowest common denominator of driver - simple fact is 99% of drivers are perfectly competent at multi tasking whilst driving.

If anyone carried their baby in the car rather than have them in a car seat that opens up big parenting questions right there.

The rest of it does i suppose come down to the person but eating and changing cd's can lead to a Careless Driving fine and 6 points on your Licence.

 

[old.Tohtori]

If anyone carried their baby in the car rather than have them in a car seat that opens up big parenting questions right there.

I think what he meant is that children in general are a distraction. Noise etc.

Even passengers would be a distraction, almost same as talking in a phone really.

Point being, good drivers can handle it and concentrate more when needed.

 

[Zede]

fucking lol, or perhaps toht is just wrong nearly all the time?

no, your all just sycophants.

how fucking boring your lives must be agreeing with the status quo all the time.

 

[Olgaline]

This thread went from informative, to boring, to silly to tiresome to down right amusing.

 

[Aoami]

no, your all just sycophants.

how fucking boring your lives must be agreeing with the status quo all the time.

lol you crack me up

 

[Calaen]

I think what he meant is that children in general are a distraction. Noise etc.

Even passengers would be a distraction, almost same as talking in a phone really.

Point being, good drivers can handle it and concentrate more when needed.

Your right all distractions can be dangerous, a good driver will avoid these (distractions) because he is a good driver the problem is, everyman and his dog thinks he's a good driver (you for example) even the shit drivers are oblivious to the fact they are shit.

Solution treat everyone like a moron and show the advert you will get through to the majority of drivers because they are probably not very good. If it makes 1 teenager not pick up their phone while driving it's been a success. I would imagine more would pay attention though.

Now get the thread closed because yuor not even aruing about the advert anymore and YOU CAN'T DRIVE

 

[old.Tohtori]

Your right all distractions can be dangerous, a good driver will avoid these (distractions) because he is a good driver the problem is, everyman and his dog thinks he's a good driver (you for example) even the shit drivers are oblivious to the fact they are shit.

Solution treat everyone like a moron and show the advert you will get through to the majority of drivers because they are probably not very good. If it makes 1 teenager not pick up their phone while driving it's been a success. I would imagine more would pay attention though.

Now get the thread closed because yuor not even aruing about the advert anymore and YOU CAN'T DRIVE

I don't think i'm a "good" driver, but i can drive. Stop making things up.

I am talking about the advert still, the message hasn't changed. You're saying the same thing, shit drivers are the problem. Could you, in your infinite wisdom, tell me what i'm arguing against?

They shouldn't concentrate on this kind of shock-tactic, but instead use the money on something sensible. Make the commercial fun, entertaining etc and you reach a lot more kids.

Hell, why not use the money spent on the advert to buy many MANY kids hands-free equipment to their new car.