dont do drugs kids

[Ch3tan]

tris- you've got narcolepsy, do you really need mind altering subtances for trips?

 

[Uncle Sick]

Hilarious vid.


And never mind Turamber's reformed christian sermons - he and I go back a long way and he's never been a big one for anything fun.

 

[Gef]

I like drugs, its like a little holiday for your mind

 

[Danya]

tris- you've got narcolepsy, do you really need mind altering subtances for trips?

He has a mind to be altered?

That said, I follow that idiot seal's policy - I don't do them, but if you want to fuck your life up, knock yourself out.

 

[tris-]

tris- you've got narcolepsy, do you really need mind altering subtances for trips?

narcolepsy hallucinations and salvia trips are totally different.
the hallucinations are like, hmm, i am still here but other stuff is also here.

salvia trips is like my mind is still here but reality is different.

thats the only way i can explain it. but no turamber, i dont do it to live in the alternate reality. that reality would be a scary place to live for any longer than 10 minutes, not some where youd wish to live.

both the hallucinations and the trips are totally different in every way, although from the trips you see colours and objects that are never possible in our reality. i dont know whats so bad about wanting to see something many others never will

danya, just noticed your post aswell. lol. like i said if you think drugs will fuck up every life of the people who take them, your the one who needs help.

 

[Danya]

danya, just noticed your post aswell. lol. like i said if you think drugs will fuck up every life of the people who take them, your the one who needs help.

Did you even read my post? I don't care if they will or not, really. Maybe you should get some help on your reading and comprehension skills.

 

[tris-]

touché but i never said anything about caring. i was talking about saying that anyone who uses drugs will fuck their life up.

 

[Bodhi]

People use these forums from all around the world and, as has been clearly stated, this drug is illegal in various countries. Moreover I find the promulgation of mind-altering substances to be extremely disturbing, particularly on a forum that I use and contribute to.

Over the years I've seen a lot of people whose lives have been ruined by the abuse of drugs and I will not shy away from saying they are bad, they will mess you up and that your life is better without them.

Sorry, but my life is much better with them. As I know what my life was like before I started experimenting with mind altering (I prefer to use the word expanding) and afterwards, I think I'm in a better position to comment than you.

Oh and alcohol is a mind altering substance. But then I didn't expect an ignoramus like yourself to know that.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Salvia is shite. Really weak cack that only affects some. If you've got a certain type of mindset and tolerances salvia won't work for you (didn't work in the slightest on me).

Also, which drug causes the most crime, violence, injury and deaths every year? Alcohol. And no, that's not just because of it's legal status. Millions of pills are boshed everyweekend, and kilos of coke snorted.

What is good is having your fun with them, and then moving on. I've pretty much done everything I want to do, with a couple of exceptions. Been off everything but the weed for the last few months, will have a little celebration at the end of term to say "yay" for getting through the first year of uni, and then it'll be onto the "rare occasions" thing, and maybe do some drugs twice or three times over the space of the whole year.


edit:// I also feel utterly no different, mentally or physically since being on a break from boshing a lot pills 2-3 times a month as well as other funky stuffs from not being on them at all. Everyone told me I would feel and look better and put on weight. Lies, all of them. I felt fine before and still do now, the only thing different is I have more money in my pocket.

 

[Doomy]

My stance on drugs have changed somewhat over the years. I believe the older you get the less you need and want them. I was a teenager once and enjoyed mind altering substance up to the age of 23-24 ish, nowadays i just feel drugs are just a step back in character development. I seen the good from abusing various substances and even nowadays i have the odd lapse into 'go on then', especially when im tanked up on beer in london and I just feel like a weaker person for it when I cave in.

I certainly couldnt abuse hallucinogenics anymore, hallucinogenics tend to scare the shit out of me now, purely because of bills, responsibilities etc. I go off on one and clam up and think way too much and dont enjoy it anymore. Used to live 2 minutes from a Liberty Cap field and my friend was living with us at the time who took a year out from Uni on the provisor he did a home study course. What did he decide to study? Mycology - cue the sawdust and experimentation of growing and 'cultivating' fly agarics in the very same field/woods. Was fun when there was no rent to pay, no responsibilities.

Stimulants I understand too, apart from coke. Having tried it on a few occasions I've come to the conclusion that its only for people that enjoy being the BEST EVER! I have not met a 'non-arrogant' coke user before and I hate the drug with a passion. Speed and E''s, they are OK if you cant get the same effects with beer, namely the social aspects of them. I dont want/need them anymore though. I feel like a more rounded individual after giving them up - theres no guilt/comedown etc with beer and lets face it, if you take the aforementioned drugs for the social aspect, beer does a better job in the long run. I know E's make you feel nice and 'warm' but I cant even remember the last good pill I had. Was 5-6 years ago at least.

Pot is just pot. No biggie, i prefer to be more alert when im socialising, its certainly useful for playing video games and chess late at night on a quiet one.

Dunno why I just typed all of that, I guess I'm thinking drugs arent bad - I've seen WAY more alcohol casualties than I have drug related ones, I just get the feeling that discussing this kind of thing on a gaming forum isnt a particularily good idea considering the age of some of the users. Turamber has a point but the anti drug/pro-drug thing is never going to be resolved here.

One thing I do know about drugs though, if I hadnt come across them I'd be in a much more advanced stage in my life, financially and mentally.

 

[nath]

theres no guilt/comedown etc with beer and lets face it, if you take the aforementioned drugs for the social aspect, beer does a better job in the long run.

Getting pissed on beer always makes me fucking miserable actually :\

 

[Doomy]

Getting pissed on beer always makes me fucking miserable actually :\

Actually me too, Im generalising beer as alcohol i guess - Im much better and happier with spirits.

 

[Danya]

touché but i never said anything about caring. i was talking about saying that anyone who uses drugs will fuck their life up.

That was somewhat figurative. I don't believe that anyone who uses drugs is fucked beyond all redemption, far from it. But drugs don't really help with anything either and they do fuck some people up. Like many things some can take or leave them, others piss their life down the toilet.

As for alcohol, it makes me fall asleep which isn't exactly sociable.

 

[Turamber]

I realise that people from all walks of life do drugs, and I think it's a sad reflection on society today that people will do anything to escape the real world. There is a price to pay for any drug that affects the mind, and not everybody truly realises what they are getting in to.

My friend Brian started experimenting with grass when he was at school. Very quickly he progressed from that to heroin. Although he has been clean for a few years now he suffers with many mental and emotional problems which the doctors attribute directly to the drugs he has experimented with over the years.

Another friend of mine, Mark, got into crack. Now he is a pusher to make enough money to feed his habit. Despite having a good education and genius IQ he dosses where he can and has been in and out of prison regularly.

I could go on, but I'm sure everyone knows somebody who has fucked their life up and their families too through their habits. And if you don't know someone personally read a newspaper, watch the news. Drugs are not "a bit of fun", they are dangerous and should be treated as such.

 

[maxi]

I think the first step to stopping things like the above happening Turamber, is to educate people. Censorship is anti-education. It 'works' by keeping people dumb. If there were more education and elightenment going on, then 'Drugs' may well be seperated as they should be. Grass isn't Coke, Coke aint Es etc, you get the drift. The only way you can go from Grass to Heroin is if you're not clued up about things. Your suggestion of censorship will only make sure that cases similar to your mates continue to happen.

Sad Reflection of life Today? the rich and powerful have been puffing opium since the days when christian monarchs were all powerful. People have been getting high since forever, which is no reason to continue doing so if its bad for ones health, but it's not a new thing ... there were no good old days!

There is a school of thought that suggests it's inbuilt human desire to get wasted every now and then.

It's a very complicated subject, and I can't be bothered laying down what I think, because I'm not sure what I think at the moment. My life, however, is better because of Es, in particular. It made me realise how shite booze is for me, socially.

 

[tris-]

turamber, your taking one case and applying it to everyone.

before i smoked pot, i read up on it for 2 years. before i smoked salvia, i read up on it nearly a year (search for my post from ages ago where i asked about it). not everyone is silly enough to get into stuff they know nothing about.

you think because i got high from drinking cough medicine then im gonna go straight to heroin? lol (btw i never got high from cough medicine, just an example).

i suppose you dont drink any alcohol turamber? or smoke, eat chocolate, drink coffee, drink coca cola? they all have something in that alters your state of mind. even if its a tiny bit, it still does it.

scratch cards and the lottery are also dangerous, fuck every type of gambling is dangerous. when you gamble it changes your mind, you get extra chemicals streaming out. but it also fucks up your life, puts you in debt and messes up your family. do you wanna ban that aswell? lets ban everything, and dont eat or drink anything. eating food makes you happy, holy crap your mind has been alterd by chemicals that your brain released. lets not eat, oh no im dead. try applying your logic to everything, and we would all be dead.

my friend bill, he started eating mini milkyways when he was younger. he quickly progressed onto mars bars and now hes obese. he just cant get enough of that seratonin release.

 

[Bodhi]

I realise that people from all walks of life do drugs, and I think it's a sad reflection on society today that people will do anything to escape the real world. There is a price to pay for any drug that affects the mind, and not everybody truly realises what they are getting in to.

My friend Brian started experimenting with grass when he was at school. Very quickly he progressed from that to heroin. Although he has been clean for a few years now he suffers with many mental and emotional problems which the doctors attribute directly to the drugs he has experimented with over the years.

Another friend of mine, Mark, got into crack. Now he is a pusher to make enough money to feed his habit. Despite having a good education and genius IQ he dosses where he can and has been in and out of prison regularly.

I could go on, but I'm sure everyone knows somebody who has fucked their life up and their families too through their habits. And if you don't know someone personally read a newspaper, watch the news. Drugs are not "a bit of fun", they are dangerous and should be treated as such.

Sadly, ignorance is one of the most dangerous things of all. I think that makes you public enemy number one.

 

[harebear]

No idea whats been said really but at the end of the day its your choice wether you do it or not. A forum shouldn't be able to influence you. If you don't like a subject ignore it and be happy.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

The people that allow drugs to take over them and fuck them up due to the fact they have not looked into what they are getting into are fucking stupid. Is it a bad thing these fucking stupid people are resigning themselves to the gutter and not reproducing? Surely these people are helping the human race evolve a tiny bit further.

Now only if we could try and stop the Welsh from breeding too....