Doctors not open all weekend...

[Bugz]

wtf is that shit?! lazy fuckin doctors.

 

[Wij]

Lazy and rich.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

If its urgent, go to your local A & E and get in the queue?

 

[cHodAX]

Minimum £90,000 a year for a 5 day week, can't be bad.

 

[Raven]

Plus pay-per-vaccine deals.

 

[Darthshearer]

Lazy and rich.

This!

I was once seeing my doctor about a repeat perscription. He was due to close at 6pm, it was 6:15, not my fault he overrun and he was kicking off with me about it.

£100k a year you TWAT!

 

[Wazzerphuk]

In all fairness, of all the high-paid earners in this country GPs are one of the few that actually deserve it.

 

[Darthshearer]

In all fairness, of all the high-paid earners in this country GPs are one of the few that actually deserve it.

Do they?

 

[Raven]

In all fairness, of all the high-paid earners in this country GPs are one of the few that actually deserve it.

Some do, most don't.

 

[Sparx]

Most of the time all GPs are glorified prescription distributers. Allow Chemists more power to prescribe and free up space for GPs imo. Alot of the time i will go to my chemist and ask the doc there if i need a prescription or not. If i do then i will see my GP to get something signed then back to the chemist

 

[Moriath]

they used to deserve it when they provided out of hours call outs and such but since that all changed its rathera 9-5 job for those who want it to be

 

[Aada]

To be fair though it's not as if anyone can just be a Doctor i'm pretty sure it takes a few long years of med school/being some doctors bitch in a hospital while you train to actually become a doctor.

I personally wouldn't want the job no matter what they get paid.

 

[kirennia]

In all fairness, of all the high-paid earners in this country GPs are one of the few that actually deserve it.

GPs are now nothing more then googlers... straight out of medical school it's well known to be the easy route and the fastest way to heavy sums of money.

 

[Sparx]

i wouldnt either, takes a very intelligent person to become a doctor. I think my point still stands though, alot of their work is taking up writing prescriptions and not actually dealing with proper problems, which is no fault of their own i want to add

 

[Sparx]

I have more respect and am more impressed by vets though

Doctors know human bodies and most of the time Docs ask you what the problem is, vets have to learn so many differnt anatomies and dont have the luxury of asking the patient

 

[kirennia]

i wouldnt either, takes a very intelligent person to become a doctor. I think my point still stands though, alot of their work is taking up writing prescriptions and not actually dealing with proper problems, which is no fault of their own i want to add

A friend of mine got into exeter peninsula with 2 C's and a D at A-level. Ultimately, that's just the stepping stone to begin the career; if you're practically minded enough and don't want to pay particularly high attention to any potential family you may have, it's a very well paid job

That's not to say it's easy for all in the profession, quite the opposite in fact but there aren't very many other jobs which can yield a 6 figure salary after 5-10 years of work (If people take the GP route). Ironically, those I'd give the most respect to are among the lowest paid fresh out of med school, heh.

 

[Darthshearer]

I have more respect and am more impressed by vets though

Doctors know human bodies and most of the time Docs ask you what the problem is, vets have to learn so many differnt anatomies and dont have the luxury of asking the patient

They aint mind readers lol. You have obviously gone there for a reason

 

[Ch3tan]

If you want to moan about high earners for little work, look at dentists. The people who become GP's could easily have chosen dentistry instead and earned a hell of a lot more money. At the end of the day the GP's provide a service that is vital, and as for not being open on weekends, are you sure they are not out on call those days?

 

[mycenae]

I feel very sorry for GP's actually. Fair enough the nice salary makes up for it, but they only have 7 minutes to see patients, and have their hands tied trying to meet government targets. They only have a certain amount of funding for referrals and stuff per year, which means that some poor kiddie with raging tonsillitis in january, may have to wait till the new financial year in april to be referred to have 'em out.
To be a GP, its 5 years in med school, then 2 years minimum (being moved every 6 months, and you HAVE to stay in hospital accomadation) being some consultants scrote in a hospital. Ok, the money is nice at the end of it all, but it is NOT an easy journey.

 

[DaGaffer]

I wouldn't do a doctor's job for all the tea in China. And for the amount of work and stress in their job, their salaries are OK. No more. And as for dentists, would you want to stare into the halitosis-ridden train-wrecks of mouths half the UK population seems to have? I wouldn't.

Doesn't mean individual doctors and dentists can't be total dicks, but if you don't like them, change. Its not that difficult.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Do they?

Some do, most don't.

Based on them doing their jobs correctly, yes.

 

[Darthshearer]

I feel in some way for the doctors.

Common sense has shot out of the window. Not enough people make use of the NHS Direct or the pharmecy at places like Boots etc. Instead, they have a sniff and go straight to the docs, which put a massive strain on them.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

GPs are now nothing more then googlers... straight out of medical school it's well known to be the easy route and the fastest way to heavy sums of money.

Do you ever go to the Doctor's? I've never met a GP "just out of medical school". Most GPs are 40+.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

I have more respect and am more impressed by vets though

Doctors know human bodies and most of the time Docs ask you what the problem is, vets have to learn so many differnt anatomies and dont have the luxury of asking the patient

Totally agree. Found one vet in particularly near me who is tbh excellent. Dealt with all of our issues with our rats, as he is one of the few vets in the area that has a specialised knowledge of smaller animals.

At every stage he was incredibly informed at diagnosis, he was also a very good surgeon when necessary. Was able to create a makeshift funnel (like you see on dogs) out of cardboard to stop one of them biting at and opening a wound in just a couple of minutes. What's more impressive is the thing stayed on for a couple of weeks, despite the rat's best attempts at removing it.

He was also incredibly considerate and caring and set through personalised cards at the passing of the rats. Really nice touch.

If you want to moan about high earners for little work, look at dentists. The people who become GP's could easily have chosen dentistry instead and earned a hell of a lot more money. At the end of the day the GP's provide a service that is vital, and as for not being open on weekends, are you sure they are not out on call those days?

Indeed, dentistry isn't the nicest job but the pay is way out of scale with their importance (generally speaking).

I feel very sorry for GP's actually. Fair enough the nice salary makes up for it, but they only have 7 minutes to see patients, and have their hands tied trying to meet government targets. They only have a certain amount of funding for referrals and stuff per year, which means that some poor kiddie with raging tonsillitis in january, may have to wait till the new financial year in april to be referred to have 'em out.
To be a GP, its 5 years in med school, then 2 years minimum (being moved every 6 months, and you HAVE to stay in hospital accomadation) being some consultants scrote in a hospital. Ok, the money is nice at the end of it all, but it is NOT an easy journey.

I wouldn't do a doctor's job for all the tea in China. And for the amount of work and stress in their job, their salaries are OK. No more. And as for dentists, would you want to stare into the halitosis-ridden train-wrecks of mouths half the UK population seems to have? I wouldn't.

Doesn't mean individual doctors and dentists can't be total dicks, but if you don't like them, change. Its not that difficult.

Indeed, it's all too easy to have a pop at GPs when it's the incredibly long-winded and beaurocratic way the NHS is run that puts pressure on them to do things that people don't like.

GPs do one of the most valuable jobs in society, whether they're used correctly or not is irrelevant and not their fault. As Gaff says, some can be *****, but most really aren't.

 

[Ch3tan]

I wouldn't do a doctor's job for all the tea in China. And for the amount of work and stress in their job, their salaries are OK. No more. And as for dentists, would you want to stare into the halitosis-ridden train-wrecks of mouths half the UK population seems to have? I wouldn't.

Doesn't mean individual doctors and dentists can't be total dicks, but if you don't like them, change. Its not that difficult.

I wasn't having ago at Dentists, just pointing out for those who think that the GP's are chasing money, that they would have gone a different route if true.

 

[nath]

I've been a couple of times over the last few years and most of the time I got someone who seemed straight out of med school. He had to leave the room a few times to consult with a more experienced GP. Of course I made a complaint, I thought it was fucking outrageous that I had to wait an extra 3 minutes while he checked to make sure he was doing the right thing. Why should I, I be expected to suffer a longer appointment because someone is learning?

Ahem. Anyway, he was a really cool bloke. I had fucking weird symptoms and he called up a couple of weeks after referring me to see how I was getting on.

 

[rynnor]

The recent contract that GPs got was pretty outrageous - 30% pay rise for less working hours and no out of hours support - thats down to whatever idiot in the Government who signed it off though.

I would say the worst thing about the GP system is how unsuited it is to people who actually work for a living - no appointments at weekends in most surgeries, no late evening appointments - basically you have to take time off to see one.

So the people who are actually supporting the system in cash terms are least well served - lol.

It staggers me that this still hasnt been addressed by any Govt.

 

[Zenith.UK]

I have a different perspective to most people because I have a good friend who qualified 2 years ago and is currently an F2 at our local hospital.

The amount of work, cramming and competition at medical school is so intense that only the very best actually qualify. I took a look at the group picture when she started her training and the picture of her graduation class. Perhaps 25% made it all the way?

The reason for the high salary is because of the high responsibility. If I mess up a diagnosis with my job (EPOS Engineer), I can come back the next day and put it right. If my friend messes up a diagnosis, it can quite literally mean someone's life is on the line. Despite the pressure, she's the most grounded and down to earth person I know. Being a medic has not gone to her head at all.

She wants to go into Paediatrics, but like many young doctors has trouble hacking the long hours through the nights. She's aiming in the long term for GP with specialism in children's health. Believe it or not, the money is not a major factor in her decision. She simply wants to balance home life with work life.

 

[kirennia]

Do you ever go to the Doctor's? I've never met a GP "just out of medical school". Most GPs are 40+.

Up until last year yes, whenever I have a problem and my clumsy nature has lead me to them in the past enough... I'm also asthmatic so go for yearly checkups which always serve their purpose, done by the nurse.

A fair few friends of mines have become doctors and they all seems to say the same thing. The people who go straight to becoming a GP generally do so because they aren't credible to continue working at a hospital level or because of the money. Personally I'm glad of this because when something goes majorly wrong, the right people are there to sort it out.

As for the older GP folk, they have mostly settled with children and just can't be dealing with the hectic lifestyle associated with working in a hospital.

Unfortunately, doing a job below your capabilities will almost always lead to stagnation and due to modern advances in computing, it's fast becoming a simple 'consult the computer' desk job. Granted checkups are required to be done and there is a certain level of skill required to fulfill their obligations, much like a pharmacist, but to be that does not warrant the salary.


Hospital doctors are a completely different story.

 

[Sparx]

They aint mind readers lol. You have obviously gone there for a reason

Thats exactly my point you mug