Do computer games give you the urge to act violently?

[Himse]

Like other people have said, I think that video games do desenstise people to things when they play alot of violent games.

Obviously its no excuse, it doesnt make it right, and alot of these "experts" on the subject who appear on richard and judy really couldnt talk anymore shit unless they reversed thier digestive system, even then it would be a close-run thing!

Playing games where there is a lot of graphic depictions of death and gore and particularly where the player character is the one responsible for it is bound to make people less sensitive to this stuff - in exactly the same way as films do.

I think the films play a bigger part nowadays because the effects are so real - computer games have a way to go before you'd struggle to tell the difference, but movies nowadays look like the real thing, you watch the newer horror films out there and you'll see things that are very, very graphic, and very realistic - much more so than computer games.

Also, I think that certain people are far more susceptable to things like this than others, its only a very certain type of person who will feel compelled to kill someone after seeing/doing it in a movie or a game, I dont think its so much the games fault as the persons. At the end of the day we're all responsible for our own actions, certain amounts can be blamed on society and our upbringing, but when all's said and done, its you who has to decide to do something like this, not a computer game.

Exactly, you don't play cs then go feel like buying an awp to headshot someone.

 

[Lethul]

Exactly, you don't play cs then go feel like buying an awp to headshot someone.

why would you headshot with awp

 

[Guest]

becasue sometimes its not an insta kill if you just hit them in the body, and/or the reg n the server thinks you hit them in the little toe.....

 

[Lethul]

becasue sometimes its not an insta kill if you just hit them in the body, and/or the reg n the server thinks you hit them in the little toe.....

guess they nerfed it since last time i played

 

[Himse]

guess they nerfed it since last time i played

awping on css is easy anyway ;D

but yeah u cant kill someone by legshot etc

 

[Blackjack]

Only game that has made me act violent was DAoC. And then, only to my chair, keyboard, bed and wall...

 

[liloe]

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Didn't want to make a huge quote-post, so just quoted for the links =)

Basically I think similar. Computer games don't turn you into a mental person, unless you already have other problems. They (and I mean games, movies etc. here) might give you wrong ideas when you're already in a state of mental disorder and fail to objectively analyze a situation. If you WANT to go out and smash someone, you'll eventually remember how "they" did it and might act on it.

Does this make games the ultimate villains of society? Surely not. There was violence at all times and there was even MORE violence in europe a few 100 years ago. The thing is, back then you had wars going on all around you and unless you were a soldier yourself, there was a big chance of being on the "recieving" end of violence which kinda marks you.

But, society naturally changes and children have more liberty to do what they want. On the one hand this is good, cause it gives them more opportunities to actually feel they're doing something they like, but on the other hand this lowers direct control over children. 50y ago you didn't do what your dad wanted and he smacked you hard. Ergo: you remembered this for the next time. I don't say this made better human beings, but at least it controlled children.

The problem nowadays is, that a lot of parents don't realize that with more freedom for their kids comes more responsability for them. Freedom doesn't mean total liberty or laissez-faire (which is an absolutely bad way of bringing children up imo), but it means that parents have to teach their kids by words what is right and what is wrong. It means that instead of the simple and old slap-tactics, parents need more insight to human/children nature.

 

[Dahakon]

It always amuses me that half the people claiming that video games make people violent are fundie Christians, yet the Old Testament has more genocide, murder, rape, incest etc than most video games combined.

 

[confused]

Going throuh about 10 credit checks between pressing the order button and actually receiving my PS3 makes me want to act violently

 

[chipper]

yes theyve made me terribly violent over the years i mean ive actually gone out and

1) ran ppl over in a car and laughed at how i gibbed them
2) ran through town firing an uzi screaming at ppl running away saying YOU FUCKING RADAR SCUM
3)ran up to ppl in a cloak with 2 kitchen knives and stabbed them in the back then laughed at how i 1 shotted them


oh wait no hang on my mistake that was in a game....

really i cant get into this without foaming at the mouth its winds me up to fuck
really does

specialists on the subject eh? im sorry did these morons spend 10-20 years of lives gaming? do they actually have a clue what they are on about.

i mean i hear quite a bit how you cant understand a drunk unless youve been one or you cant understand how hard it is quit smoking till you have smoked for 20 years etc

WTF GIVES THESE PRATS the right to say they know what they are on about do they really assume that young adults are so stupid they dont know right from wrong? yes theres some extreme cases of deaths resulting from games but its often been in mmo's cos some tit stole someones virtual sword etc

as for something like GTA manhunt etc come on get a grip its just a convenient excuse to blame games i mean you watch a cop drama from 10 years ago and watch one now the difference in sex violence drug use etc is 10 fold

if someone goes out with a gun to shoot ppl that person was already fucked up and now im going to stop cos im gettin mad

 

[Lamp]

 

[fettoken]

Personally, i've played games like Doom from when i was very little.

But i've never felt the urge to go out and physically harm someone cos i played a game which involves hurting people.

Can kids just not tell the difference between virtual & the real world?

I think we are living in such a nanny like state, the Government are just looking for someone to blame for kids drinking on the streets and stabbing eachother.

It's all overhyped bollocks, i bet nobody on this forum would even think about harming another human physically, and there must be a fair few members here.

For me, its not as much about the violence in a game as it is about me getting totally pissed off and the game (CS:source) getting me in a really bad mood. And then, i feel like physically hurting "things". But even so, it compells (two L´s?) me to play more, but i usually stop before it ruins my day further (were talking about an hour).

 

[old.Tohtori]

For me, its not as much about the violence in a game as it is about me getting totally pissed off and the game (CS:source) getting me in a really bad mood. And then, i feel like physically hurting "things"

That's why i always warn people that they shouldn't wank to relieve gaming stress.

Angry at game.
Want to break something.
Wang in hand.

Not. Good.

 

[fettoken]

That's why i always warn people that they shouldn't wank to relieve gaming stress.

Angry at game.
Want to break something.
Wang in hand.

Not. Good.

o_0 Wanking to relieve gaming stress. Never heard that one before. When i said "physically hurt something" i may have exagerated a little, even if i can get pissed for a second im way to zen to break stuff and get all worked up over it, but i know a few pals of mine that go completely berzerk and throw their monitors (crt) and mouses around the place (kind of scary to watch).

 

[old.Tohtori]

o_0 Wanking to relieve gaming stress. Never heard that one before.

You rarely do...you rarely do *shakes head*

But now you're intriqued, just remember to post when you do do the thing men do do

But, about anger at games, yes, some people are just insane. I can't even understand shouting and screaming at a game, when you're the one making mistakes.

 

[chipper]

I NEVER MAKE MISTAKES! ITS THE DAMN GAME ITS FUBAR! ARGHHH am off out now to batter some old biddy because the game told me to do it....

think her first name is tanya i mean hey i cant get blamed for it can i becuase it was the games fault hey i could even come out of this with a law suit against the game firm!!


*sigh* where does it end all they are doing is setting up any little asbo deadbeat to simply go i didnt know what i was doing i mean its ok to do it in GTA san andreas *little twat batters her eyes or he drops bottom lip*

right and wrong starts and stops with the parents its not the teachers job and its not the games designers job to teach ppl right and wrong.

 

[grizzy]

I have personally never known any1 going violent over games but then again most ppl think that games make u messed up where i live (welcome to estonia), same with metal... honestly its like high school till death and yet all the ppl that judge it like that seem to think that they know it all for some reason....

Also i have no problem parents buying theyr children PG rated games aslong it isnt bough just to keep the kid occupied with something (cuz kids grow up themselves well!!!!) I used to like playing fighting games etc back in the old days but only cuz it was great fun to beat up ur mates(virtually ofc ) Oh and im so thankful to my dad for buying me a PS1 at the age of 8 and letting me have only final fantasy 7 for like half a year. Yea it didnt help me be the most poopular guy in school but i learned not to care. Tbh every parent shud do this ><

Iv even asked a few parents that let theyr childern smoke underage and the best answer iv gotten so far is that we cant make them stop ... i mean cmon... get that belt out already lay down some serious stripes before its too late!

 

[Helme]

The most violent thing I've ever done related to video games is throw a playstation 1 controller into the wall when I was younger because the stupid bitch Lara Croft just wouldn't make the jump I wanted her to make for the 5000th time. What was worse is that I'd done it multiple times before -.-


I personally just watch all these "violence in video game studies" and wonder, how the fuck can these people get paid? and most importantly, how do they even perform these tests? take the first psych case they find at a mental hospital and let him play Man Hunt? considering that every guy I know that plays computer games(which is quite alot of people) are very, very calm. Almost doped up calm infact, due to games being a great way to relieve anger I just can't understand how they come to the same conclusion every, single time.

 

[echome]

The most violent thing I've ever done related to video games is throw a playstation 1 controller into the wall when I was younger because the stupid bitch Lara Croft just wouldn't make the jump I wanted her to make for the 5000th time. What was worse is that I'd done it multiple times before -.-

6x keyboards
2x icemats
9 or 10x headsets
1x old CRT screen
A few random plates and cups.

That is what I have destroyed since started gaming. I may have a problem controlling my anger.


But still does not mean I'll pick up a shotgun and go man hunting in the streets.

 

[grizzy]

1x old CRT screen

plz do explain

 

[echome]

plz do explain

Well if you hit it hard enough on the side it could apparently turn over and fall on the floor. I admid I was feeling a bit silly afterwards... This being back in the days when I played a lot of serious CS.

 

[Olgaline]

somehow i dout they train suiced bombers with computer games

 

[echome]

somehow i dout they train suiced bombers with computer games

Well think about it. The american army got some sort of computer game made for them, so that they could practice. And it should be rather realistic from what I have heard... I see a market not being properly exploited here.
Lets make a Fhot "how to be a suicide-bomber game"...:touch:

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well think about it. The american army got some sort of computer game made for them, so that they could practice. And it should be rather realistic from what I have heard... I see a market not being properly exploited here.

This is actually true.

American Army is used for recruitment and training of american soldiers, ergo, it's only logical that the opposing "forces"(i use the term loosely) have the same method of training.

If for nothing else, counter tactics.

 

[Helme]

The funny thing is that, American Army is probably one of the biggest failures ever when it comes to gameplay. It just doesn't work at all

 

[old.Tohtori]

The funny thing is that, American Army is probably one of the biggest failures ever when it comes to gameplay. It just doesn't work at all

Aye, it's very "back to 80s" gameplay, but, gives a ton of info on how the US army operates

 

[haarewin]

if anything, being able to play video games to beat the crap out of someone makes me not want to do it in real life. it's an outlet.

 

[Guest]

yeah man, i love listening to led zep backwards and perform satanic rituals because of it, i also roam the streets after listening to judas priest and randomly shoot people...................


god made me do it, he spoke to me whilst i was just about to get a knife kill playing gun game

 

[Calaen]

The funny thing is that, American Army is probably one of the biggest failures ever when it comes to gameplay. It just doesn't work at all

For a free download, the game is not that bad at all.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The thing about "anti-media" is that it's always been around, and will always be around in my opinion.

Books were "satans tools to cause violence" back in the 50s, storytellers were burned way back when and so forth.

Games are the latest and most used media at the moment, no "anti-" behaviour has ever done anything towards removing media luckily.

I think next one will be virtual/holographic things that 'cause people to flip.