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Appologies for double posting as this is also under SB PA Damage cap but i thought that maybe a discussion about damage was called for as i have been aware of below for quite some time. Am very interested to see whether others have noticed it too.
Now that they have nerfed LA was the SB damage compared to Infs made to be lower initially and has been left lower? No silly remarks now please but a good talk about such matters would be appreciated as i have attempted over and over to create a hard hitting SB that can match an Inf and it just doesn't seem possible. Bear in mind that i am basing these tests on both types using similar weapon types. If i were to use the faster slash weaps - Jamborees or something they are called - with a speed of 2.7? then Naive's damage would have been laughable.
SB Pa Damage Cap reply below
To be honest i been doing extensive research on damage from axes - compared to the slash damage infs can put out. The only way i can match the kind of damage a one hand weilding slash inf is to use a monster 2 handed weap. The result of which i hamper myself with terrible slow swing rates. What is kinda suspicious to me is that i can use 3.7 spd 8.3 dps weap in my right hand and a 3.1 spd weap in my left and not do anywhere near the amount of damage a slash inf can dish out? Now how come? I can be outdamaged even by thrust infs who are supposedly up against it cos of my armour type.
Having been an alb i cannot remember a much slower weap than a bastard sword - 3.6 speed? Whereas an SB can use a 4.2 speed weapon. Even so i cannot for the life of me match the damage a buffed inf can put out. I have been outdamaged by an unbuffed slash inf - by quite a degree using 3.7 spd weaps!!
The above is even noticeable on buffed Naive - stats were:
198 str - 170 dex - 190 (i think con) and around 140 quickness.
Even with the above and 25 in slash (20 +5) i could not match a slash inf using one hand weaps? - unless i am missing something here i just don't get it! I struggle to put out the damage a good unbuffed slash inf puts out even!!
By the way my sc suit has full slash resist.
Don't get me wrong - i rarely lose a fight because of the damage i can dish out on the first 2 hits. But after that i am really struggling owing to the sheer speed of infs - whether slash or thrust. I just find it very strange that even with the same sort of weaps we SBs cannot match an inf's damage per hit!!
As for low perf - a lot of times i don't hit with a 2 handed weap cos of the failure to break blade turn at the moment - also if i use a monster weap to hit first i gonna be hanging around forra while to recover. Even so have one shotted quite a number of players today so as for low perf - yeah sometimes it is.
I spent about an hour hitting my level 27 shaman - with different SBs i have. Naive with very high str and axe - Entomb somewhat lower. The perf damage can go from way under 200 to over 500!!. Same goes for the use of garote - huge variance in damage - down to 70 then close to 300. With 25 in axe(Naive) i would not expect such differences. Tis very hard to creat an alt basing it on these tests.
All the above is based on garote as the stroke - crit damage!! And only at level 24 - Thid.
Does seem that you Albions have no trouble creating hard hitting alts that are consistantly hard hitting - whereas creating a good SB really makes you scratch your head in disbelief sometimes!!!
Naive
Entomb
Now that they have nerfed LA was the SB damage compared to Infs made to be lower initially and has been left lower? No silly remarks now please but a good talk about such matters would be appreciated as i have attempted over and over to create a hard hitting SB that can match an Inf and it just doesn't seem possible. Bear in mind that i am basing these tests on both types using similar weapon types. If i were to use the faster slash weaps - Jamborees or something they are called - with a speed of 2.7? then Naive's damage would have been laughable.
SB Pa Damage Cap reply below
To be honest i been doing extensive research on damage from axes - compared to the slash damage infs can put out. The only way i can match the kind of damage a one hand weilding slash inf is to use a monster 2 handed weap. The result of which i hamper myself with terrible slow swing rates. What is kinda suspicious to me is that i can use 3.7 spd 8.3 dps weap in my right hand and a 3.1 spd weap in my left and not do anywhere near the amount of damage a slash inf can dish out? Now how come? I can be outdamaged even by thrust infs who are supposedly up against it cos of my armour type.
Having been an alb i cannot remember a much slower weap than a bastard sword - 3.6 speed? Whereas an SB can use a 4.2 speed weapon. Even so i cannot for the life of me match the damage a buffed inf can put out. I have been outdamaged by an unbuffed slash inf - by quite a degree using 3.7 spd weaps!!
The above is even noticeable on buffed Naive - stats were:
198 str - 170 dex - 190 (i think con) and around 140 quickness.
Even with the above and 25 in slash (20 +5) i could not match a slash inf using one hand weaps? - unless i am missing something here i just don't get it! I struggle to put out the damage a good unbuffed slash inf puts out even!!
By the way my sc suit has full slash resist.
Don't get me wrong - i rarely lose a fight because of the damage i can dish out on the first 2 hits. But after that i am really struggling owing to the sheer speed of infs - whether slash or thrust. I just find it very strange that even with the same sort of weaps we SBs cannot match an inf's damage per hit!!
As for low perf - a lot of times i don't hit with a 2 handed weap cos of the failure to break blade turn at the moment - also if i use a monster weap to hit first i gonna be hanging around forra while to recover. Even so have one shotted quite a number of players today so as for low perf - yeah sometimes it is.
I spent about an hour hitting my level 27 shaman - with different SBs i have. Naive with very high str and axe - Entomb somewhat lower. The perf damage can go from way under 200 to over 500!!. Same goes for the use of garote - huge variance in damage - down to 70 then close to 300. With 25 in axe(Naive) i would not expect such differences. Tis very hard to creat an alt basing it on these tests.
All the above is based on garote as the stroke - crit damage!! And only at level 24 - Thid.
Does seem that you Albions have no trouble creating hard hitting alts that are consistantly hard hitting - whereas creating a good SB really makes you scratch your head in disbelief sometimes!!!
Naive
Entomb
