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throdgrain
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Agreed Kenny.
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.cage
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I will kick your derrière to ze moon, if you talk to mon Lynx comme ca!
(paedophilia is far more extreme than hentai, but there wasn't any paedophilia, and hentai is hardly offensive, so its all good, yo!)
(paedophilia is far more extreme than hentai, but there wasn't any paedophilia, and hentai is hardly offensive, so its all good, yo!)
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nath
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Fuck, I missed that one :/
By the by, I can see the point in not wanting Dimebag banned: that being, that many people (including myself) would like this place completely unmoderated.. for everything. Barring spam, of course.
I'm not gunna start calling Dime a cock, and I'm not gunna suggest Damini lighten up.. I don't really know/care which one is the case. But the point is, one of the reasons for not wanting Dime banned is because a lot of people don't want this forum (general) policed at all.
On the other hand, I totally understand why he was banned, and can see where the mods are coming from.
Thats just my ten cents.
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Nos-
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I got so much love to give!
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throdgrain
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Thats pretty sensible talk really Nath.
However, with BW now a p2p type outfit the idea of the general, or indeed any other forum being not moderated is pie in the sky. Like , its never going to happen , all you can look forward to is more , and tighter moderation, not the reverse.
From a personal point of view, as some one who has kids in thier early teens , that seems like a good idea if Im honest.
I understand other people may not think it such a good idea, but its happening anyway..
However, with BW now a p2p type outfit the idea of the general, or indeed any other forum being not moderated is pie in the sky. Like , its never going to happen , all you can look forward to is more , and tighter moderation, not the reverse.
From a personal point of view, as some one who has kids in thier early teens , that seems like a good idea if Im honest.
I understand other people may not think it such a good idea, but its happening anyway..
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nath
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Yeah, but like I said I can see both points of view.
Also, I agree it is (to a certain degree) pie in the sky, but it's still something I'd prefer. And there's no harm in protesting when steps are taken to go the other way.
Also, I agree it is (to a certain degree) pie in the sky, but it's still something I'd prefer. And there's no harm in protesting when steps are taken to go the other way.
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That's not to say he wouldn't though.
Arguably saying "not for the easily offended" by its very definition implies that content is likely to cause offence. Without getting too bogged down in Marxist existentialism we should appraise ourselves of the "truth unicorn", the maxim of Life if you will, that dictates that each of us take offence at different things, and it is just as bad to discriminate against those who are not as easily offended as others.
I think it was Ken Masters who said it best, "If in doubt, Tatsumaki Senpu Kaku!"
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Someone should learn him to talk proper
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nath
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Marxist existentialism? Christ Darren, you don't half talk a lot of cock do you.
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Damini
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I wasn't offended, I've already said that. Having been in ownership of a vagina for all my life, there's nothing there to offend me. I just didn't particularly want a large drawing of one in a unrelated thread.
And I don't see the joke format in calling people coonlets or filthy jews. Maybe you can explain it to me, break it down and highlight just how the comedy works. Because I disagree with whats posted, I'm immediately crying as I type, hyperventilating at the injustice of it all, and clutching rosaries. My emotions aren't rampaging, I'm just saying the way I see it. But if thats the best response that can be mustered, calm down, when I'm not all awash with the horror of it all, then fine.
I'm not interested in some sham popularity contest, I posted that post and expected to get flamed to death for it to be honest, but I wanted to say my bit. The retorts have been mediocre at best, which is disappointing. I've lost my enthuasiasm for posting here because of the high population of wankers that just tear down every thread but never contribute anything of worth themselves beyond criticism. I know some other people who have left because of the same reasons. If I wanted a popularity contest, I'd stick it out, smile glued in face while breast feeding orphans in an attempt to play the saint. I can't be done with that. Whats the point of posting in a community forum when the sense of community is completely shot?
Just because you have "Not for the easily offended" as a prelude doesn't allow you post whatever the hell you like, then scream that people are hysterical when they think you are an obnoxious prick. You couldn't host pictures of children being raped, but prelude it by saying "Oooh, don't come in here if you're easily offended" and use that as justification at the extreme end of the scale. By the same reasoning, you can't use that title on entry as a Get Out Of Jail Free card for saying whatever the hell you like here. This site isn't age sensitive, there's no 18+ requirements. And like I said, there are specific internet laws, and racist insults and extreme pornographic images sit in a very grey area of legality. If people really want to tell Jew "jokes", I'd say www.youngbnp.com was a more fitting arena than here. If you really want to carry on with the forum as it is, campaign to have it age sensitive. Make it 18 or over.
This is a public forum, associated with a public business. It doesn't feel that way at all, it doesn't act that way, but thats what it is. I'm just saying what a lot of people have been thinking, so while it's all very convenient to assume its just the emotional lady speaking, heaving tits and smudged eyeliner, there's more people that see it from my perspective than just me.
And I don't see the joke format in calling people coonlets or filthy jews. Maybe you can explain it to me, break it down and highlight just how the comedy works. Because I disagree with whats posted, I'm immediately crying as I type, hyperventilating at the injustice of it all, and clutching rosaries. My emotions aren't rampaging, I'm just saying the way I see it. But if thats the best response that can be mustered, calm down, when I'm not all awash with the horror of it all, then fine.
I'm not interested in some sham popularity contest, I posted that post and expected to get flamed to death for it to be honest, but I wanted to say my bit. The retorts have been mediocre at best, which is disappointing. I've lost my enthuasiasm for posting here because of the high population of wankers that just tear down every thread but never contribute anything of worth themselves beyond criticism. I know some other people who have left because of the same reasons. If I wanted a popularity contest, I'd stick it out, smile glued in face while breast feeding orphans in an attempt to play the saint. I can't be done with that. Whats the point of posting in a community forum when the sense of community is completely shot?
Just because you have "Not for the easily offended" as a prelude doesn't allow you post whatever the hell you like, then scream that people are hysterical when they think you are an obnoxious prick. You couldn't host pictures of children being raped, but prelude it by saying "Oooh, don't come in here if you're easily offended" and use that as justification at the extreme end of the scale. By the same reasoning, you can't use that title on entry as a Get Out Of Jail Free card for saying whatever the hell you like here. This site isn't age sensitive, there's no 18+ requirements. And like I said, there are specific internet laws, and racist insults and extreme pornographic images sit in a very grey area of legality. If people really want to tell Jew "jokes", I'd say www.youngbnp.com was a more fitting arena than here. If you really want to carry on with the forum as it is, campaign to have it age sensitive. Make it 18 or over.
This is a public forum, associated with a public business. It doesn't feel that way at all, it doesn't act that way, but thats what it is. I'm just saying what a lot of people have been thinking, so while it's all very convenient to assume its just the emotional lady speaking, heaving tits and smudged eyeliner, there's more people that see it from my perspective than just me.
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Shoryuken!
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Nos-
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You just lost me 20 quid :-----(
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Damini
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See, now that was funny
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WPKenny
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You conveniently neglected to mention the felching.
There's a lot of people who browse these forums from work, myself included. These people have already voiced their concerns about thier boss peering over their shoulder as a picture of someone in the act of felching pops into view.
There's also the predjudice. Calling someone a "Jew" isn't funny. It's a religion.
There was an incident not so long ago when someone told another person to "fuck off and die of cancer" (paraphrasing). It turns out the person targeted actually had cancer and wasn't particulalry thrilled to hear these comments headed their way.
The guy I mentioned who has the son with Down's was actually in the pub that night cracking jokes about disabilities and, depsite tests, his son was born unexpectidly with Down's. He doesn't joke about it any more.
I think you need to change your perspective on things and see them from another point of view instead of being so selfish and narrow minded.
I doubt if your best mate was lying in hosptial dying of AIDS you'd be coming in here yelling "CUNT THE FUCK OFF AND DIE OF AIDS!!"
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nath
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Damini, I think the thing is that people don't like the idea of being restricted/policed on this forum at all. Dime may well have acted like a cock I dunno, I didn't see a lot of the offending stuff but regardless of that I would like to have a forum where people can post whatever the hell they like. As badgerboy said, it's probably wishful thinking but I reckon that's the main issue here.
I'm not entirely convinced that people ragging on you because you took offense wasn't just because of this.
I'm not entirely convinced that people ragging on you because you took offense wasn't just because of this.
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WPKenny
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That'd mean the mods/supermods are doing the job they signed up for then.
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.cage
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Feel my burning vigour!
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nath
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Kenny, I think I might tbh (if someone was being a tosser). The reason being is when people say stuff like that, it's not like they.. ok cut the crap.. when I've said that to people online, I've not actually wished pain/death on them. It's just about coming up with the most outrageously offensive thing you can say to them, and saying it. People are gunna be offended from time to time. I personally don't like the idea that there's a bunch of people who can set the level tolerated offense and ban people if they go beyond that.
Once again I must stress that this is a pipe dream, but again.. what can you do but aim for it
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It would be very well having an un-moderated forum, but it does rely on people not deliberately pushing the boundaries all the time. When slagging off jews becomes a recurring theme in a high percentage of threads, then you either have to actively embrace that or say that you don't. If we're not moderated its down to people who post to say what they think, and thats what I'm doing.
Cage and co have had issue with me way before this happened, I know. I'm e/n girl, the bane of the forums.
Cage and co have had issue with me way before this happened, I know. I'm e/n girl, the bane of the forums.
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Darren, so lamez.
Dimey so own.
Dimey so own.
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nath
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Well, I don't have a problem with you saying what you think. In an unmoderated forum, you can say what you like too. If people have a problem with it so what?
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.cage
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its all been blown out of proportion, man!
I'm a lone champion of truth (quite like michael knight) against those pesky capitalists, not a racist! How dare you throw down such accusations.
I've still yet to see the child rape and paedophilia you guys claim has been on the forums :\
Those mods must be so damn quick fire!
I'm a lone champion of truth (quite like michael knight) against those pesky capitalists, not a racist! How dare you throw down such accusations.
I've still yet to see the child rape and paedophilia you guys claim has been on the forums :\
Those mods must be so damn quick fire!
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Cage, felching is pretty bad. Again, as Durz said it's all about what offends you. There's nothing wrong with taking offense to seeing some guy suck jizz out of another guys azz. Some people, they're just different.. y'know?
Stop clinging to the pedo shit dude, regardless of whether it was there or not, that just happens to be where you draw line, for others it's man jizz/azz.
Stop clinging to the pedo shit dude, regardless of whether it was there or not, that just happens to be where you draw line, for others it's man jizz/azz.
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Damini
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Read whats actually being posted cage. Nobodies saying that has been posted, we're saying that if your "If you are easily offended, piss off" speel was actually worth spit, then you could have it as a pre-empt on every site. Child porn, snuff, rape? Well, we did warn you... We're saying your agument isn't worth the time it took to type it. Its a worthless ramble that doesn't justify squat.
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Dimebag is norty.
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~YuckFou~
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I mourn for some peoples intelligence.
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nath
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Damini, the point about self policing is that we don't think it'd get that far. And it's a slightly fascist point of view to think that if there's no one to police us, it'd all get totally out of hand. Again, "out of hand" subjective thing really. I very VERY much doubt child porn would be posted (bare in mind what Dime just posted it *not* child porn, it's something to get a rise out of people). I suppose I just have faith that things wouldn't get that far if there were no mods.
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Testin da Cable
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I don't Yuck. I do marvel at the fact that they actually take time out of their lives to be utterly lame though. It amazes me, really it does.
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.cage
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its not my argument, its on the front page :\
perhaps if it was in the middle of "yeah and i woke up and it was cool and like, you know, i put linkin park on, and it was like, woah man empathy, like, woah" you might find it!
(and yeah, i concede the felching is pretty foul, but i didnt actually see it :> the hentai is just comedy, though)
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then you're living in cloud9neverneverland dude. sorry to say it, but without slappings every now and then the kids will escalate like there's no tomorrow :/
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