Did you ever think you would see the day?

[Vodkafairy]

my bet is that if you pop an end regen pet at inc, garrote the pet and chase the hunter they will pretty much always either run to safety or die. only exceptionally good hunters know how to use the pet right, and most exceptionally good people on archers are usually not 50 bow ;p

 

[Straef]

Only cause he has no mates it's not by choice

Judging the band of retards zerging along with you, you must be Mr-fucking-popular :x

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH seens most of ur pathetic posts the only thing i could do is to laugh!!!

Did you read your own post, or were you even able to make out what it said? No? Thought so. I'm not even going to read the rest of the shit, but at least you gave me something to laugh at - your writing ;x

Friar against a hunter get a grip noob

Ah, so your fg-ish stealthzerg vs my rr4 pala was fair game aswell? Pala's must be well overpowered in your book.

Attention whore ftw!!
want me to post mine aswel? has more rps and less time!

He actually made a point by showing the stats, which you appareantly missed :x

 

[Shike]

mos5, pop pet on NS who has no chanse without SL to see le hunter, plink an arrow aswell, FZ and just take ~1000 range, plink some more arrows, pop endregen4pot, run off alil, /rude the NS running snared to u, plink another arrow, run alil /rofl the still snared NS who just purged but since no immunitytimer, disease kicked off again, plink an arrow, NS use instant to interrupt so run off alil more, /dance with the halfdead NS, run off alil more just for fun, plink some more arrows, let pet finish off while u sit and enjoy the sunset. Voila, 2k RPs inc. Rinse and repeat. If FZ is down, just make sure PHN or WH is up for some damagereduction, let NS purge off whatever snare he got on him, sprint and abuse alil meleelagshite, pet will catch up and snare again anyways, if NS garrotespam and use snares etc just purge those and keep on with le running, rinse and repeat, not so hard tbh

Higher RR hunter with some bowspecc and some BC will be quite unkillable for assassins i think, glad I quit NS so I dont have to live through that frustration at least, bad enuff with all the adders dominating RvR these days.

 

[Denarius]

I cant wait ! just need RR11 for perfect specc, 86k to go! Btw any hunters thinking of doing this kiting thing, use the Chasm bow, 4.5 spd and heals 50% end ! Mega kite inc !

 

[Kagato]

You don't need to kite when your never solo in the first place.

 

[Guindor]

Pup u see this is my mental problem ... i choosed to play hunter cause when i started to play daoc all my friends where at Midgard.... always wanted a range char but not a caster so i choose hunter.. i was sniper mode till my rr5 and from that point i went melee... now cause its hard doesnt meen i will quit or reroll ffs?! ppl that do that r simply ppl that want the easy way but as i said my mental problem is to take always the hard way... i wont reroll instead i will try to adapt my playstyle the way the situations allows me but that doesnt mean that i cant say what i think ..... and i stay at what i said before... that is not hunter love.. if from all the chars only rangers/infs/ns will have problem with the new sniper/kite mode hunters and u qq then sorry but something is wrong... most casters have qc+CC, some have ns, light tanks have charge, non charge tanks have medium shields usually .... and now seers?!? wtf seers supposed to be grped chars.... if they r solo bad for them!

 

[Puppet]

if from all the chars only rangers/infs/ns will have problem with the new sniper/kite mode hunters and u qq then sorry but something is wrong... most casters have qc+CC, some have ns, light tanks have charge, non charge tanks have medium shields usually .... and now seers?!? wtf seers supposed to be grped chars.... if they r solo bad for them!

Weird, most hunters go on how 'they the only stealther who doesnt have Malice' so they compare themselves with other stealthers when its speaking in their favour. But when its speaking against them, its suddenly 'qq more'. Either stick with the argument, or don't. But don't twist it how it fits your argument....

There's enough hybrids who can't spec shield and dont have charge, also charge can be countered by the hunter if he's any smart (not gonna explain how, but im sure you can think of ways). And as I said before, its not much love for your playstyle, but it is for a hybrid/archer hunter. Imagine if a scout could perma snare your hunter (and you didnt have a pet to interrupt the scout) and shoot you down wouldnt you think thats incredibly lame and OP? Thought so :O

 

[Fiver]

The new hunter pets are a really pain..had 2 fights Vs hunters yesterday on US server,wheni had them on about 20-30% hp left they popped the pet an ran off.. and i was either stunned or snared

 

[pip]

YIPPPEEEEEEE can't w8 for new pet ftw MWHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Perf]

40 beastcraft
35 bow and stealth
42 spear

get high mos and put those new snare reactive procs on your armour and kite like a madman
no immunity to the snare procs
no immunity to disease

So we gonna see a load of skill less hunters kiting around hoping there pet is gonna kill for them?

 

[Shike]

So we gonna see a load of skill less hunters kiting around hoping there pet is gonna kill for them?

aint exactly hard to kite tho is it? the target will be snared, its just a question of time, plink away a cpl arrows, kite off, rinse and repeat. Can kill pretty much anything with hunter kiteing, including a chargetank. (ok moclollerskillscasters will still be rough i guess but..)

Wouldnt be sooo bad if it just was one way of snareing, either disease or garrotepet but since its both the target should be more or less permasnared, nothing one can do about it really

edit: will be alil like a chanter kiteing around stuff with a companion, its _damn_ hard to win vs that if chanter get the drop unless you got some CC to take out pet quickly for a long time since chanter has speed too, hunter has speedboost to lay down distances easy :S

 

[Maeloch]

Guess after patch today nothing to stop VWs doing same? pbaoe root, backoff, tap tap tap, pbaoe root, tap tap tap, etc. Throw in a disease if want get extra tap off between roots.

 

[Eeben]

wish my scout would get some cool stuff like this

 

[Gahn]

Guess after patch today nothing to stop VWs doing same? pbaoe root, backoff, tap tap tap, pbaoe root, tap tap tap, etc. Throw in a disease if want get extra tap off between roots.

U won't root the one you are fighting altho, handy against adds, hardly oped.

 

[Puppet]

Guess after patch today nothing to stop VWs doing same? pbaoe root, backoff, tap tap tap, pbaoe root, tap tap tap, etc. Throw in a disease if want get extra tap off between roots.

Yep, Grasping Roots should be either given an immunity, or changed abit so you can't do this tactic... Would been better if the new Foxfire (Back-positional) had the PBAE-root instead of Grasping Roots.

Hopefully Mythic gets it someday how to balance it properly

 

[Lethul]

my bet is that if you pop an end regen pet at inc, garrote the pet and chase the hunter they will pretty much always either run to safety or die. only exceptionally good hunters know how to use the pet right, and most exceptionally good people on archers are usually not 50 bow ;p

how are you gonna touch someone when you are diseased and they are not?
safety yes, but i doubt you will be able to kill him

 

[Puppet]

U won't root the one you are fighting altho, handy against adds, hardly oped.

You will aslong you dont have a DoT or proc on them. The 'root' is applied after the melee-hit. Biggest advantage is that people cant run OOV on Conflagration, which is where the 'big hit' comes into play

 

[Gustav]

mos5, pop pet on NS who has no chanse without SL to see le hunter, plink an arrow aswell, FZ and just take ~1000 range, plink some more arrows, pop endregen4pot, run off alil, /rude the NS running snared to u, plink another arrow, run alil /rofl the still snared NS who just purged but since no immunitytimer, disease kicked off again, plink an arrow, NS use instant to interrupt so run off alil more, /dance with the halfdead NS, run off alil more just for fun, plink some more arrows, let pet finish off while u sit and enjoy the sunset. Voila, 2k RPs inc. Rinse and repeat. If FZ is down, just make sure PHN or WH is up for some damagereduction, let NS purge off whatever snare he got on him, sprint and abuse alil meleelagshite, pet will catch up and snare again anyways, if NS garrotespam and use snares etc just purge those and keep on with le running, rinse and repeat, not so hard tbh

Higher RR hunter with some bowspecc and some BC will be quite unkillable for assassins i think, glad I quit NS so I dont have to live through that frustration at least, bad enuff with all the adders dominating RvR these days.

shitty ns imo to play that way...a good NS wont play the way you just described.

 

[Denarius]

You don't need to kite when your never solo in the first place.

Belive it or not kaggie, i do solo almost 600 now ! weeee!

 

[leviathane]

Belive it or not kaggie, i do solo almost 600 now ! weeee!

rofl i needed a good laugh, i've never seen you solo so erm stfu.

 

[atos]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH seens most of ur pathetic posts the only thing i could do is to laugh!!!So finally we got some love u think!?!?ahhahahahahhahaha i laugh again.... we got a pet that can do styles ( with garrote been the best of it)so and from lvl 32 would be 40lvl...So lets face it ... against casters prolly would be very very very good ( especially with those instamoc sorcs/cabba) but wtf with the rest?i am sure that against paladins/shield armsman/reavers/heretic/heros/shield champions/wardens will do the same as before... NOTHING AT ALL...... and i am sure that if its too ANNOYING most of the shield wielders can kill it in no time and at the same time block/parry/evade our "uber" 2h.... now light tanks it would be at there judge what r going to do... mercs with their chain armor and af boof while they have dt on us or their rr5 (!) can surely 2-3shot our UBER pet! now bms/2h champions might find it a bit difficult...( HAHAHAHAHAHAH) and now... against the other stealthers.... so scout can kill it and not taken alot dmg from our 2h with a bit luck.. mincer can mezz/stun it and wake after the fight have ended... ( dont forget the chain+af boof) inf/ns can take the pet and shove it to their punny asses!!! while when we have the UBER COMBO on us ( ty mythic) evade7/ws deb00f/malice proc on us and wielding 2h weapon usually the fights r like evade/evade/evade/evade/hit/miss/evade/evade/evade and some time they evade too!! (!!) they can sure kill it meanwhile !!! opppppppssssss wtf i have forgot?!?!? aaaa i know... forgot to mention that as hunters we can get purge3 ( 30points) on 5min timer and the pet on 2min timer..and ur lowlife combo can be purged and at the next hit u can reapply the poisons and the proc can be on u again ( happen to every1 of u a zillion times) and the only thing that have changed is that we have lost 400hp in less than a sec!! cause again our beloved mythic ( god bless u folks )
have decided that when u purge poisons U DONT GET BACK UR 400hps THAT U HAVE LOST so its like that : hit , purge , reapply poisons =800hp gone in a zap!! WITH ONLY THE STR/CON poisons ... without counting lifebane etc etc and the dmg from the weapons.. ( and ofc we have ip/fz on 15mins timer and u have poisonspike on 5min timer ^^, did i mention that they nerf fz too? ) and now rangers.... that they have after evade stun/sidestyle stun with very little stun immunity and any decent ranger can land those side styles ( nop Fatload i am not reffering to u ) and again we have 5min timer purge ... while we have backstyle stun ( that we usually get PA while we try to land it ) and a chain from after evade on sword style....but rangers have duel wielding .. and a nice snare backstyle ( we have a chain on anytime style for both spear/sword).... and now gimps and gimpos listen that... from all the stealth classes DO U KNOW THAT ONLY HUNTERS CANT WIELD MALICE??but why would be able to wield it?? its not an i win weapon ^^ not even the proc that as i said before u dont gain immunity when u purge it or take but ur lost hp from the lost con ^^ and ofc not the use it has its not an i win use either ^^....... the only class that we might find it a bit easier to kill it might be melee friars...
But if u think that we got SOOOOOOOO OP we can tell mythic to remove our pd as an exchange for our new OP pet.........

As i see it mythic just walked by us and didnt even made something for us.....
But ofc wtf do i know heh?
Just my 2cents...

Can't continue readign thread. That post made me blind just by a quick glance. Sorry guys.


Btw hunters rock, might consider rolling one now.

 

[Shike]

shitty ns imo to play that way...a good NS wont play the way you just described.

how so, mos5>NS's and infs.

Snares+kite>melee.

I dont really see what can be done differently, only chanse NS or inf really have is to reapply snarepoison so hunter cannot run, problem is just that a hunter see the assassin before the assassin see him, so its actually not even hard to just outkite an assassin.

Another thing NS also can do is get out from LoS if it is _possible_ and kill the pet, but without using LoS its kindof hard, depends on where this actually takes place but in most situations it just wont be possible I think. (if one is a bridgecamper its possible but...)

Fact still remains, a hunter that doesnt wanna be catched, will not be catched, that is the mainproblem, he can kite pretty much for as long as he likes and just rely on the pet to keep distance with ease.

 

[Gahn]

You will aslong you dont have a DoT or proc on them. The 'root' is applied after the melee-hit. Biggest advantage is that people cant run OOV on Conflagration, which is where the 'big hit' comes into play

Realized i wrote bs the second edit button gone ;P

 

[Gustav]

HIt the pet with a snare style...or use mezz poison. If it diseases you...use purge drop an end pot and sprint and keep using your dd's to interrupt said bow user. No class ever needs to use purge when fighting a hunter unless they get a lucky rear stun off in mid fight. Now you will all have to use purge when fighting our class. Every hunter has to use a purge when fighting an assassin....thats why I specced purge 3. Now all you assassins will see how it feels to waste that many points on an RA just to be able to stand up to a hunter. Sure our class is mainly timer reliant....now assassins will be as well.

 

[Lethul]

HIt the pet with a snare style...or use mezz poison. If it diseases you...use purge drop an end pot and sprint and keep using your dd's to interrupt said bow user. No class ever needs to use purge when fighting a hunter unless they get a lucky rear stun off in mid fight. Now you will all have to use purge when fighting our class. Every hunter has to use a purge when fighting an assassin....thats why I specced purge 3. Now all you assassins will see how it feels to waste that many points on an RA just to be able to stand up to a hunter. Sure our class is mainly timer reliant....now assassins will be as well.

every assassin has purge3 already? oO

 

[Gustav]

every assassin has purge3 already? oO

No but now you will most likely have use purge when fighting us...instead of never needing to.

 

[Shike]

HIt the pet with a snare style...or use mezz poison. If it diseases you...use purge drop an end pot and sprint and keep using your dd's to interrupt said bow user. No class ever needs to use purge when fighting a hunter unless they get a lucky rear stun off in mid fight. Now you will all have to use purge when fighting our class. Every hunter has to use a purge when fighting an assassin....thats why I specced purge 3. Now all you assassins will see how it feels to waste that many points on an RA just to be able to stand up to a hunter. Sure our class is mainly timer reliant....now assassins will be as well.

yea that can work, if it wasnt for the new FZ, which push the opponent away for a while giving enough room and time to start the bonanzakiterorama

(oh and purge3 rox vs so many classes tbh, i dont rly consider it to be a waste at all nomatter what I have used purge against, hell I even purge battlerdebuffs and weapondebuffs heh)

 

[Gustav]

yea that can work, if it wasnt for the new FZ, which push the opponent away for a while giving enough room and time to start the bonanzakiterorama

(oh and purge3 rox vs so many classes tbh, i dont rly consider it to be a waste at all nomatter what I have used purge against, hell I even purge battlerdebuffs and weapondebuffs heh)

OK...so they fz you and get some nice distance on u they now cant hit u in FZ, still either snare the pet and purge its disease, or AE mezz it and pop an end pot and run after the hunter or just vanish and try again now the hunter has lost his FZ. If all things equal and the hunter has FZ you shud have AE mezz....if they have mos5 you shud have just as much ra points to spend in your preferred areas. I'm just glad that assassins now have to put as much time and effort into making their chars as hunters do to compete.

 

[Shike]

OK...so they fz you and get some nice distance on u they now cant hit u in FZ, still either snare the pet and purge its disease, or AE mezz it and pop an end pot and run after the hunter or just vanish and try again now the hunter has lost his FZ. If all things equal and the hunter has FZ you shud have AE mezz....if they have mos5 you shud have just as much ra points to spend in your preferred areas. I'm just glad that assassins now have to put as much time and effort into making their chars as hunters do to compete.

snare only last a while on pet, all hunter need to do is actually kite u past it again after ~20s so it can hit you again and then purge is down.. Mezpot only last 15s and same thing there Both can use endpots and have lots of end, hunter can speedbump to get distance quickly. FZ should only be used if an assassin get off mezpot tbh. Add in the snareprocs into the equation and well.. it will most likely not be pretty at all.

I think you underestimate the power of kiting alil bit Gustav. A good kiter can kill pretty much anything leaving the enemy with very little to do vs it. And vanish vs a hunter is kindof crap u know, since mos5> assassins :/ Is nothing to spend in to defend vs a snaring archer with ranged tool such as the pet if it can garrote/disease. Hell even a NS with garrote/snare/disease and DD can kite enemys, problem is just that the DD does shite damage Bow does not if specced for it.

(btw, infs dont even have the instaDD to interrupt bow with.. so is even worse for em)

 

[Kagato]

Belive it or not kaggie, i do solo almost 600 now ! weeee!

Sorry to disapoint you but shooting people already fighting someone else does not qualify as soloing.