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Lethul

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Guindor said:
First of all
Phoebus =timer
Malice proc=anytime proc that doesnt give immunity
i am sure u can see the diff

second
We hit for 400 when we dont have poisons on us..

Lethul m8 ... pet will have 3styles to use... who told u that he will garrote only and not AH only?
No charge tanks usually have shields.... and guess what arrows +pet =2enemies... so if u have medium shield u r oki...

Cmonn guyz .....

disease is enough to kite, a garotte here and there just makes it easier. afterall 1 garotte is enough to give you distance to the chaser and if he attacks pets shot him :)
 

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Guindor said:
have decided that when u purge poisons U DONT GET BACK UR 400hps THAT U HAVE LOST so its like that : hit , purge , reapply poisons =800hp gone in a zap!!

If you reapply poisons, you dont take away another 400 HP. So your reasoning is flawed here.

The pet isnt a boost to 'your kind of hunter' because you melee mostly. Its a boost for hunters who use their bow. If Im unable to reach a hunter in melee (so it requires the hunter to have decent MoS) while the pet chain-diseases and snares me, it allows the hunter to put an arrow in me every now and then, killing me like a shaman does.

We all know how easy a shaman can kill a non-charge tank , and a SMART hunter can duplicate that trick easily. Funny how you guys keep defending that, especially if you realise people like Guindor (melee-hunter) dont get any serious benefit out of it. And the 'Hunter is the only stealther without malice'..... jajaja... hunter is also the only stealther with an insta-cast pet, but dont hear anyone about that :O
 

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Lethul said:
im a shadowblade, wont really get hurt by hunter boosts ;)

Papasan sends: hi ging
Gungy sends: hi
Papasan sends: Lethul here

:m00:
 

Lethul

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Ging said:
Papasan sends: hi ging
Gungy sends: hi
Papasan sends: Lethul here

:m00:

zomg i played papasan one night, and i roxed so much (true story :p)

You perform PA and hit random alb for 700 damage
Gingy hits you for 500
Gingy hits you for 500
You perform CD and hit random alb for 500
Gingy hits you for 500
Gingy hits you for 500
You perform stunning stab and hit random alb for 500
Gingy hits you for 500
Frag was just killed by Gingy

that is my shadowblade megameight
 

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Lethul said:
zomg i played papasan one night, and i roxed so much (true story :p)

You perform PA and hit random alb for 700 damage
Gingy hits you for 500
Gingy hits you for 500
You perform CD and hit random alb for 500
Gingy hits you for 500
Gingy hits you for 500
You perform stunning stab and hit random alb for 500
Gingy hits you for 500
Frag was just killed by Gingy

that is my shadowblade megameight
lol
your kidding me? 500 dmg FUCK OFF i rarly do less than 700 - oh and nerf my F8 reactions to be able to get 2 nukes in between your PA and CD :)

3 maybe even 4 shots at most i recon.


still pooned is as pooned does :m00:
 

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pip said:
folk crying allready and we still not got it yet:)
o so this is where you've been trolling while waiting for wh+som+fz+ip+purge to come back up every 15minutes after losing to me despite dumping :E

And yes im aware you won one fairly >< (i.e. no adds, no u running in with me unstealthed on 50%hp and ooe etc). Doesnt alter the fact the only time you've left bled today is with every single arti and ra up and you've not been seen when they're down :e

Going to keep up a run every 15mins till rr11? Oo
 

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bigchief said:
o so this is where you've been trolling while waiting for wh+som+fz+ip+purge to come back up every 15minutes after losing to me despite dumping :E

And yes im aware you won one fairly >< (i.e. no adds, no u running in with me unstealthed on 50%hp and ooe etc). Doesnt alter the fact the only time you've left bled today is with every single arti and ra up and you've not been seen when they're down :e

Going to keep up a run every 15mins till rr11? Oo

He might have too if you have Aha or whatever his name is stuck to your side like you had yesterday :p
 

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Fatload BoysDoCry said:
He might have too if you have Aha or whatever his name is stuck to your side like you had yesterday :p

100% solo today ty. And as i recall you only popped on us yesterday when there were 4 others so can't rly whine about me duoing occasionally :p

zerger.JPG
 

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bigchief said:
100% solo today ty. And as i recall you only popped on us yesterday when there were 4 others so can't rly whine about me duoing occasionally :p

zerger.JPG
Attention whore ftw!! :twak:
want me to post mine aswel? has more rps and less time!
 

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bigchief said:
100% solo today ty. And as i recall you only popped on us yesterday when there were 4 others so can't rly whine about me duoing occasionally :p

zerger.JPG

Not that impressive for 6 hours to be honest :) yesterday i had about 55k in 4 hours rvring, i think the IRS was about 15k.

As for yesterday when i attacked, i was alone and there was you and your mate as you had just killed that other stealther. I took you to 10% or so when you ran and hid, then the others came, but i had to finish you off :p
 

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Fatload BoysDoCry said:
Not that impressive for 6 hours to be honest :) yesterday i had about 55k in 4 hours rvring, i think the IRS was about 15k.

As for yesterday when i attacked, i was alone and there was you and your mate as you had just killed that other stealther. I took you to 10% or so when you ran and hid, then the others came, but i had to finish you off :p

and your rp per kill was 200 (probably) .. so gratz to you, his proved he was solo, yours would only prove how much you don't know how to solo
 

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bigchief said:
100% solo today ty. And as i recall you only popped on us yesterday when there were 4 others so can't rly whine about me duoing occasionally :p

zerger.JPG

I bet it's from using remedy and purge vs rr4 assassins! :mad:
 

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Raimo said:
Attention whore ftw!! :twak:
want me to post mine aswel? has more rps and less time!

just proving a point :(

and i afk'd over lunch ingame and went out and stuff, so its more like 4 1/2 hrs playtime.

And fatload, for the record, we'd killed a rr9 bm, were fighting a ranger, then u shot me and so did someone else. So yes im going to run when 2 ppl shooting me and mayah in melee with us. I fully expected to die in that scenario, i dont have anything thats going to save me (fz/ip/PS etc), but always worth trying. Still got rps for you as you died a second or 2 later :)
 

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RandomDotCom said:
and your rp per kill was 200 (probably) .. so gratz to you, his proved he was solo, yours would only prove how much you don't know how to solo

My rp per kill is alot more than you think :) as for don't know how to solo, considering im solo 99.9% of the time your very much wrong.

Now run along to your DC west bridge duelling circle.
 

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bigchief said:
just proving a point :(

and i afk'd over lunch ingame and went out and stuff, so its more like 4 1/2 hrs playtime.

And fatload, for the record, we'd killed a rr9 bm, were fighting a ranger, then u shot me and so did someone else. So yes im going to run when 2 ppl shooting me and mayah in melee with us. I fully expected to die in that scenario, i dont have anything thats going to save me (fz/ip/PS etc), but always worth trying. Still got rps for you as you died a second or 2 later :)

Yeah, everything was down and i wasn't really paying attention to my hp, but you gave good rp's :)
 

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Fatload BoysDoCry said:
My rp per kill is alot more than you think :) as for don't know how to solo, considering im solo 99.9% of the time your very much wrong.

Now run along to your DC west bridge duelling circle.

o_O

plinking arrows into everything that moves, regardless if its in a fight or not is now considered solo? :/

wtf happened to DAoC :eek7:
 

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bigchief said:
o so this is where you've been trolling while waiting for wh+som+fz+ip+purge to come back up every 15minutes after losing to me despite dumping :E

And yes im aware you won one fairly >< (i.e. no adds, no u running in with me unstealthed on 50%hp and ooe etc). Doesnt alter the fact the only time you've left bled today is with every single arti and ra up and you've not been seen when they're down :e

Going to keep up a run every 15mins till rr11? Oo
sz might of seem bit like that but it wasn't been a busy day for me afk and such:(
 

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glad though pip is running on the hunter than the WL.

welcome back to the wonderfull world of the stealther!
 

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Shike said:
o_O

plinking arrows into everything that moves, regardless if its in a fight or not is now considered solo? :/

wtf happened to DAoC :eek7:

I believe fatload defines soloing as ungrouped.

I'd define it as independent of other players, wich fatload, in most cases, clearly isn't.
 

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censi said:
glad though pip is running on the hunter than the WL.

welcome back to the wonderfull world of the stealther!
yes dam hard work when got no ip+purge
 

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Shike said:
o_O

plinking arrows into everything that moves, regardless if its in a fight or not is now considered solo? :/

wtf happened to DAoC :eek7:
The fact that he runs alone proves his solo.
Adding is just his play style so accept it tbh,whining about dosnt help against it.
 

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Raimo said:
The fact that he runs alone proves his solo.
Adding is just his play style so accept tbh.

and.. what does what you just said have to do with what I said? Its just semantics..

accept what? I never said I didnt accept something.. It was a statement combined with a loose question and resignation.
 

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pip said:
yes dam hard work when got no ip+purge
hehe,tbh 1 Ball above ur head should be like IP2 :p
so If u have 3 chambers thats like 3x IP2 in 6seconds.
 

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ok, now let's get back to whine...

you all seem to forget that disease doesn't mean only snare, it means halving heals effectiveness and it also implies a str penalty and while that str penalty is not as big as a real debuff, it still counts. And dont say having 40 less str doesnt count cause else no one would fuckin care about having 101str templates.
 

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Puppet said:
If you reapply poisons, you dont take away another 400 HP. So your reasoning is flawed here.

And the 'Hunter is the only stealther without malice'..... jajaja... hunter is also the only stealther with an insta-cast pet, but dont hear anyone about that :O

Hmm then u can explain me why after i have finish a duel with a sb purged his ws/con deb00f he re-applys i full heal me from my bb and when the new poisons fades... i must heal me again CAUSE I AM NOT AT 100%hp??
Or w8 i am a lier...

U see none qq about our pet cause simply its useless or else every1 would qq
or maybe u wanna exchange ur CD styles and malice with our pet?
Think not....
 

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Guindor said:
Hmm then u can explain me why after i have finish a duel with a sb purged his ws/con deb00f he re-applys i full heal me from my bb and when the new poisons fades... i must heal me again CAUSE I AM NOT AT 100%hp??

it works like that:

lets asume you have 2300hp, you get debuffed and your max hp drops to 1900hp, you purge and you jump again to 2300hp but w/o recovering the 400hp lost, then you get debuffed again and your max hits drop again to 1900 but you dont lose hp this time... if you are already below 1900hp cause of the damage already taken the debuff does nothing (it only 'shortens' the hp bar itself because of the con loss)
 

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Guindor said:
Hmm then u can explain me why after i have finish a duel with a sb purged his ws/con deb00f he re-applys i full heal me from my bb and when the new poisons fades... i must heal me again CAUSE I AM NOT AT 100%hp??
Or w8 i am a lier...

Not a liar, but not knowing the facts about the game-mechanics: WS/CON debuff lowers the maximal hp you have. So if someone hits you for 100 damage and enervating, he lowers your max HP (after the melee-damage) with the debuff-amount (approx 400-450 hp). If you purge it then immediatly, you are down the exact same HP as the debuff. Once he reapplies it, your max HP is lowered again, but because you are not on full HP, it doesnt register as 'damage'. Would be funny if each reapply of the debuff would do 400 damage. SB's would do 800 damage each hit if they kept reapplying... uhuh talking about overpowered LA-mechanics oO

U see none qq about our pet cause simply its useless or else every1 would qq
or maybe u wanna exchange ur CD styles and malice with our pet?
Think not....

Not sure what you implying, there's loads of QQ about the hunter-pet on VNBoards, not here because the pet-patch aint here yet (will be introduced tomorrow).

If you think dualwielding and Malice is such OPness, perhaps its an idea to abandon the hunter and reroll ranger/infiltrator/nightshade/shadowblade. Also it is better to look at what you do have, instead of focussing on what you dont have. The pet provides utility (even the current one), the 'double' style-reduction (tripple if you include SoK) arti's are good aswell.

In my eyes hunters where one of the hardest stealthers to beat on my ranger, simply because this 'enemy evades 80% of my hits' doesnt happen on my ranger. With the total lack of defense our archer-classes have, its hard to cut even on DPS in a short fight.

Just because the (new) pet doesnt add much to your playstyle doesnt mean its useless. It will be incredibly hard for some classes to beat a hunter next patch who knows when to kite and shoot. If you are not one of them, fine for you. Im sure loads of hunters will successfully show how it works.
 

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TBH I think the problem here is what RR do you consider is average now for most stealthers in DAOC nearing the end of the games lifespan?? I feel Mythic is still patching the game looking at a low rr class setting... i.e..

The new hunter pets on low RR hunters imo are fine and tbh its a needed boost (although I feel Disease is a bit OP) with spear styles wafting every other hit and higher RR assasins evading pretty much everything the hunter throws at them.

But then again well played High RR hunters (rr9+) really dont need this kind of love when they already do insane dmg if played properly, templated, specced for melee etc (although they are slighly timer orientated as Rangers are)

I guess certain classes mature/reach their peak at Higher RRs as I know SBs need to be high RR to compete spec wise where Infs are nice straight out of the box etc

But why shouldnt a hunter whos gritted his teeth and played his gimped class to high rr through the grind not be slightly OP'd for a bit? and reap some reward?

Personally I think It will be nerfed eventually but I know Den for one will enjoy it for a while itleast hehe

Mythic just needs to start patching for end game higher RR's as we all know the influx of new players to the game for who changes like the hunter pet would benefit immensly, just dont exist tbh


Just my 2 pence worth
 

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