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Xanthea

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I dont think WaR is intended to work as daoc was pvp wise. But more like WoW "the quake" factor or like in CS boom boom dead.

Not any 8vs8 or whatever you could have in daoc that lasted like 10 mins or whatever.

So if ppl is looking for balance, and the long lasting pvp i doubt you find it
 

Baldrian

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Sorry if I came across wrong, I was not trying to say it was just order classes, I just think DPS in this game is majorly out of control. And what you said happened to me tonight on several occassions, its no fun at all.


I agree, I feel so OP on my Squigherder when I dish out 1 arrow with 140 dam after another, I can kill any class in the game, I just ned 3-4 min to shot enough times.

But I guess Herder is not considered DPS, cause damage they sure as hell dont deliver. :p
 

Tallen

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I agree, I feel so OP on my Squigherder when I dish out 1 arrow with 140 dam after another, I can kill any class in the game, I just ned 3-4 min to shot enough times.

But I guess Herder is not considered DPS, cause damage they sure as hell dont deliver. :p

How about a Warrior Priest? :)
 

Awarkle

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Remmeber mythics concept of "Ranged DPS" classes isnt the same as our idea.

Personally i would love it if my engineer did way more damage, unfortunatly i doubt that would happen :)
 

exponentiaL

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In Tor Anroc the other day I got hit by an arrow from a Shadow Warrior for 1400 damage. That can't be bad when most classes have 4-6k health.

Or is it just Engineers and Squidherders suffering from poor dps?
 

aika

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Please define the "usual" mentality of destro players.Why should the mentality of a destro player be any different from order?i would question the mentality of order players as 70% seem to be bright wizards thats all about quantity and wanting to win at all costs, so play an overpowered class.
BW's need a nerf simple as that.

80% of scenarios all I see is tanks overextending, get focus fired, then come whine on forums. And most are like 2H chosen or marauders that think their ae knockdown can save them.
Also you seem to whine so much about BW's, yes the dmg is high but so is the cost. I'm absolutely nothing without a healer.
And even with a healer it still takes me a very long time to take down a black orc in tier 4. I run out of action points usually and he is still on like 60% hp, and its not even only me hitting him.
 

aika

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In Tor Anroc the other day I got hit by an arrow from a Shadow Warrior for 1400 damage. That can't be bad when most classes have 4-6k health.

Or is it just Engineers and Squidherders suffering from poor dps?

I have almost 7k hp as a wizard, i guess tanks have more =\

Edit: Ah tor anroc, I think thats a morale ability
 

exponentiaL

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Can you leave me alone next time I'm looking for some love in Praag? You just had to use the Playing with Fire on me, didn't you!

No love for you on the battlefields!

:(
 

aika

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Can you leave me alone next time I'm looking for some love in Praag? You just had to use the Playing with Fire on me, didn't you!

No love for you on the battlefields!

:(

I left you second time though ;) didnt realise at first what class you were cause I just went out of some gateway and I see a chaoshorse in front of me, quickly root then ignite, and then only i see thats a zealot ;)
 

exponentiaL

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I left you second time though ;) didnt realise at first what class you were cause I just went out of some gateway and I see a chaoshorse in front of me, quickly root then ignite, and then only i see thats a zealot ;)
Can't blame you! :D

Though I'll return the favor once my WE gets to T4! :wub:
 

Iorlas

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Tried playing a BW and a sorc both to level 40? Try it and then you'll be able to make informed comparisons.

Have you?and as it happens i have played them, i was in closed beta from day 1 so i am more than qualified to make comparisons,are you?
 

Iorlas

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80% of scenarios all I see is tanks overextending, get focus fired, then come whine on forums. And most are like 2H chosen or marauders that think their ae knockdown can save them.
Also you seem to whine so much about BW's, yes the dmg is high but so is the cost. I'm absolutely nothing without a healer.
And even with a healer it still takes me a very long time to take down a black orc in tier 4. I run out of action points usually and he is still on like 60% hp, and its not even only me hitting him.

1st off ..i'm not a tank.Get real, your nothing without a healer:lol:.. biggest load of crap i've seen here for a longtime.Your a BW and that comment alone tells me that no matter what anyone says your going to deny that your overpowered so i won't waste my time with you.
 

Tallen

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Have you?and as it happens i have played them, i was in closed beta from day 1 so i am more than qualified to make comparisons,are you?

So, actually, no, you haven't played either to 40 since release and so, no you cannot make an informed analysis of either class.

Played since day 1 of closed beta? Really? And that qualifies you...how exactly?

I'm not the one making sweeping statements or baseless comparisons, you are. As such why should i have played either class?

:rolleyes:
 

Roo Stercogburn

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Remmeber mythics concept of "Ranged DPS" classes isnt the same as our idea.

Personally i would love it if my engineer did way more damage, unfortunatly i doubt that would happen :)

I would love it if my Magus did *any* damage :D
 

aika

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1st off ..i'm not a tank.Get real, your nothing without a healer:lol:.. biggest load of crap i've seen here for a longtime.Your a BW and that comment alone tells me that no matter what anyone says your going to deny that your overpowered so i won't waste my time with you.

Do you know how much damage I do when I'm on low combustion? Do you know how much dmg I do to a tank that faces me with his shield?
get a clue please.
BW's are fine. The only fixes you need is nerf playing with fire and dont allow dots to stack and move detonate to conflag line.
 

charl8tan

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Order have as many people as Destruction. In T4 Dest own though because we level up faster than order.
Don't you mean Destruction owned in T4. Slightly different story now that they don't get insane VP's just for resurrecting.

Actually last few nights around primetime Order has been high population while destro has been med. I think they've got to the stage where people are now rerolling because of queues. Order = albion now :p
I thought they were all quitting now that actual ORvR is available instead of exploiting bugs and just doing a bit of PvE for their "phatz".
 

Iorlas

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Do you know how much damage I do when I'm on low combustion? Do you know how much dmg I do to a tank that faces me with his shield?
get a clue please.
BW's are fine. The only fixes you need is nerf playing with fire and dont allow dots to stack and move detonate to conflag line.

There you go said it yourself..BW's need a nerf..thanks.
 

Iorlas

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So, actually, no, you haven't played either to 40 since release and so, no you cannot make an informed analysis of either class.

Played since day 1 of closed beta? Really? And that qualifies you...how exactly?

I'm not the one making sweeping statements or baseless comparisons, you are. As such why should i have played either class?

:rolleyes:

You so thick your not worth bothering with.:wanker:
 

Valdur

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Today I was pulled,rooted & DoT, then hit for 1500 by a Sorc,supported by a Magus and I last like 20 sec and I`m a R30 WP with 4k HP.So those complaining about Wizzy being overpowered must try playing Order then we can argue.The classes are fine to me,it's just the way we play which get us killed.

One thing we are good at is Keeping our Wizzy and tank alive because they will keep us alive too.
 

Iorlas

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Today I was pulled,rooted & DoT, then hit for 1500 by a Sorc,supported by a Magus and I last like 20 sec and I`m a R30 WP with 4k HP.So those complaining about Wizzy being overpowered must try playing Order then we can argue.The classes are fine to me,it's just the way we play which get us killed.

One thing we are good at is Keeping our Wizzy and tank alive because they will keep us alive too.

1 BW alone can do that even faster so if it takes 2 destro to do the same as 1 order(BW) just goes to show how Op the BW is.I have played order seen it from both sides.
 

Nate

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BW can't pull in. So no, they can't do what he said solo.
 

Bone_Idle

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Its horrible to heal classes that have Playing With Fire on them.

Why make a game that has so much anti heal or unfriendly healer abilities. I'm starting to wish i handnt rolled a shaman now. :(
 

Iorlas

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BW can't pull in. So no, they can't do what he said solo.

hahah very clever..a BW still doesn't need any help to achieve the same result so it still takes 2 destro to do the same as 1 BW and your trying to tell me that BW is not overpowered.
 

Tallen

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You so thick your not worth bothering with.:wanker:

You really must be metally challenged, this thread being testament to that fact and STILL you cannot accept that you are making baseless accusations becuase you simply don't have any real evidence or experience to support anything you say. Yet still you cry, it's like a stuck record or a parrot who seems to have mastered basic vocabulary, but cannot utilise it to converse at any intelligable level.

Must be wonderful being so blissfully ignorant. Because you cannot formulate a coherent response and have no base for any of your accusations you just avoid the subject.

I'm thick? Oh the irony :)
 

Tallen

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Today I was pulled,rooted & DoT, then hit for 1500 by a Sorc,supported by a Magus and I last like 20 sec and I`m a R30 WP with 4k HP.So those complaining about Wizzy being overpowered must try playing Order then we can argue.The classes are fine to me,it's just the way we play which get us killed.

One thing we are good at is Keeping our Wizzy and tank alive because they will keep us alive too.

Your asking for reason in a den of ignorance and blinkered opinions im afraid m8 :)
 

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