Dedicated PBAE Group

[nobs]

I am an experienced player, considerring starting a new char on Mid/Excal. But the thought of trying to find groups, and then levelling bit by bit painfully slowly doesn't really appeal. I've done all that enough times already!

I have recently been part of an extremely efficient PBAE group on Merlin (US server), and thought it may be possible to engineer the 'perfect' group and all commit to levelling together.

This post is simply to establish whether there is any interest in the idea. It would work something like this...

- 8 players all commit to playing at the same time every day until the group reaches level 50. (I'd estimate around 2-3 weeks in the group i propose.)

- The commitment would likely be between 6pm and 10pm every night, and all potential members would have to guarentee they would always be there (excluding emergencies).

- The class's are pre-determined based on the most efficient PBAE group. Each player in the team chooses a slot.

- Each character is specced entirely for the PvE speed and efficiency of the group in mind. Then on reaching 50 individuals can respec to whatever they like.

- The characters are only played during the time slots pre-allocated to ensure everyone in the team stays at the same level.

Basically you commit to the game for 2-3 weeks and don't have much of a social life, and at the end of it you get yourself a level 50 char to respec and do whatever you want with.

Here is a detailed explanation of how a PBAE group works, and is vital reading even for those who have participated in PBAE groups before.

http://www.theblackcompany.org/PBAOEParties.htm

Below is my proposed class selection for the perfect Mid PBAE group:

Taunter 1 = Thane
Taunter 2 = Thane
Taunter 3 = Skald
Taunter 4 = Berserker
PBAE = Spiritmaster
PBT = Runemaster
Healer = Healer
Backup/Downtime = Shaman

So I'm asking now if anyone is interested in this idea? I can't emphasise enough that you really must be able to commit to playing every night. With just 1 man down the group would be screwed.

Nobs

 

[old.Saborion]

Two questions.
Why would anyone that put together the perfect group want to use a zerker as a taunter when there are warriors around?

And why have 4 taunters and only 1 SM?

Switch a thane for a warrior and add another SM imo. =)

 

[ignoramus]

if you wanna use Warrior as a taunter I am up for this

I also have the option to use a lvl 50 healer with purity of meditation on another computer. =)


let me know

 

[nobs]

Class choice is flexible. That is only my perspective having played a PBAE group upto 50.

Firstly I'd reccomend you read the article, it answers your first question.

Thane is by far the best PBAE group tank in Midgard. It can take big damage, and spec axe/hammer (bonus to hit) + shield. It has a visual pull which is really useful for identifying which mob is being targetted. It also has PB dmg shout, whilst this does very little dmg, when stacked onto 4 mobs and done repeatedly during a pull it can have a significant impact on kill speed.

Warrior would be fine also, but lacks a visual ranged draw. It's not something thats essential but helps the rest of the group.

Generally if a healer/caster gets aggro then taunter 4 is used to pull it off. Therefore with the highest melee dmg in Mid, combined with a taunt style Zerk is best for that role. With it tanking the last mob, (also often only 3 come), it doesn't need to be able to withstand big damage, it's more important it can keep the casters/healers safe.

I've tried PBAE groups with 2 PBAE casters and 3 tanks, and what consistantly happens is more than 3 mobs will come, and the 3 tanks won't be able to hold the agro off the PBAE'ers. It works, but doesn't significantly increase kill speed, whilst posing more of a risk to the group.

This post was meant to see if people are interested in playing in a dedicated PBAE group, and I really hope it doesn't turn into a row about the perfect dynamics of one. It is ofcourse flexible, and depends entirely on what people are interested in playing.

Nobs

 

[Hatt]

why not
1 zerk
2 warrior (or one 1warr+2zerk)
1 pbt rm
1 healer
1 shaman
2 SM (can do 3 if you take away another tank)

 

[nobs]

There are obviousely many varieties on classes, I just wanna see if enough are interested, and what char they fancy playing. Not have a discussion on ideal classes, cos that is open to individual interpretation.

Nobs

 

[ignoramus]

if you do get this up and running - let me know.

 

[old.rauthian]

have tryed sm pbae groups and got from lvl 41 to lvl 50 in 2 days i can tell you this ditch a tank and add another sm less down time faster kills more exp ess time 1 tank can take 2 adds if needed

 

[old.Ailelun]

ill be happy to do the rm :O [pm me]

 

[Rollie_David]

get

2sm
pbt runie
1 healer
1 shammie
rest tanks as u see fit 1-2 chain wearers are goo though

put protect on sm, and you will xp at a very very fast rate, i did 41-50 in about 4 days

 

[nocte]

lvl 10 zerk willing and waiting.

1 thing... when are u planning to start this?

i have next week off work so if it is next week then yep.

BUT i work monday and Thursday nights 4pm - 8pm (GMT)

would i still be a viable grp member if i need to take 4 hours off for 2 days?

and yes, having done PBAoE grps in Hib 2 PB's make a hell of a difference to killtime and DT.

So if u want em in this grp gimme a pm on these forums or /send me ingame

 

[beehappy]

i made PBAE SM and PBAE group

1-43

2-3 PABE SM
1 in group Shaman for heal and buffs
1 Pac healer off group for POM, AE stun and heal after fight.

43-50 Lair Yar Spot

3-4 PBAE SM
1 PBT RM - puller
1 in group Shaman for heal and buffs
1 Pac healer off group for POM, AE stun and heal after fight.
2-3 Tanks (Better 3)
use CELL/BOX formation (off group PAC-stunner also)

 

[Thorador]

Would be up for the zerker or RM(prefer zerker), and since I'm a jobless bum I have all the time in the world. msg Acitek in game if you need me.

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

I still think ppl underestimate Thanes as dmg takers and doers.

Thane is by far the best PBAE group tank in Midgard. It can take big damage, and spec axe/hammer (bonus to hit) + shield. It has a visual pull which is really useful for identifying which mob is being targetted. It also has PB dmg shout, whilst this does very little dmg, when stacked onto 4 mobs and done repeatedly during a pull it can have a significant impact on kill speed.

Zerks etc can only target 1 mob, our shout and the dreaded Mjolliner is underesitamed by most as a good agro puller when attacking more than 1 mob at a time. Damn good AF, sheild spec for slammin, good 2h dmg when needed.

Many a time ive saved a caster / healers life using these spells. And now the shouts actually do a lot better damage (thanx Mythic)

 

[speshneeds]

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=42285107&replies=28


^^

 

[katt!]

5sms 1healer 1rm 1shaman

doing petpulls...

 

[indeed]

Interest

I would be interested. Healer would be my preference but I would be prepared to play a zerker.

Message me as
Fatbob or Mysticbob

 

[old.Krusha]

well a warrior with a -fast- 1h axe/hammer (dmg is not important.. its the amount of taunts you get in... and axe/hammer taunt has +hit, sword hasnt ) can easily peel fast and safe from all SM in grp .. AND have the defence/hp to take the beating from it.. if you have a 2nd shieldwarrior to cross guard.. well there you go

and GL finding one who wants a lvl 50 thane while everyone else ends up with a good class and btw..

- Each character is specced entirely for the PvE speed and efficiency of the group in mind. Then on reaching 50 individuals can respec to whatever they like.

you cant respecc at 50

my 24c

 

[marach]

im in!?

willing to join you.. would mostly like to do it whit my shaman.

there is only one problem. the shamen is allready lvl 24!

would have np buffing you whit my 49darkness rm or my 24shammy or my buffpet till ur lvl 20 or something..

tell me if you need me.

pm me in game as zeric (the shaman) hoodini or driz

or contact me at marach@ofir.dk

greetings

 

[marach]

btw a mate of mine would also like to join whit the zerk

from lvl 1 that is

 

[old.tRoG]

I'm willing to play anything but a thane

PM me.

 

[marach]

humm.. why is everybody saying "pm me" whitout laying a name? =)

 

[old.Saborion]

Originally posted by nobs


I've tried PBAE groups with 2 PBAE casters and 3 tanks, and what consistantly happens is more than 3 mobs will come, and the 3 tanks won't be able to hold the agro off the PBAE'ers. It works, but doesn't significantly increase kill speed, whilst posing more of a risk to the group.

Nobs

Ok... well, I was down at GK together with a buffed Sub, and after he had made 2 taunt attacks on each one of the up to 3 mobs that came, I never got aggroed while doing pbae. Maybe it`s just good ol Sub that can do that, but if 3 fighters cannot taunt 4 mobs, then you need to find 3 new fighters. =)

 

[Weeping Willow]

Originally posted by kedal
5sms 1healer 1rm 1shaman

doing petpulls...

5 spiritmasters
1 pbt runemaster
1 speedbot
1 pac healer

and then have a oog pac healer to do the stunning.

Really don't know what all those tanks should do?

 

[stabba4]

kedal, most mobs are NOT doable with healer only speed, unless its a aug healer, but then again you cant do it without a pac healer .

 

[Kaitain]

I would like to be the Shammie or the Healer.

 

[horsma]

Originally posted by Mirlena


5 spiritmasters
1 pbt runemaster
1 speedbot
1 pac healer

and then have a oog pac healer to do the stunning.

Really don't know what all those tanks should do?

please dont call skalds as a speed bots
but honestly - mirlenas grp has done and it did work better than well. Atleast that time when we didnt have any melee leachers & outsiders.

 

[kxn]

..

You should have 3 taunters 2 pbae 1 shammy 1 healer and 1 rm, not 4 taunters

 

[Duzzy]

rofl, you dont need tanks.. they just unstack the mobs, so your pbaoe makes less dmg

 

[old.amoeba]

I'm in.

The only problem with 6-10pm though is I generally have food 7-7:30ish. So maybe I could play the pbt runie and be afk that 30 minutes?

I also have a lvl 10 SM, a 46.5 skald speedbot, and have a 40 (prolly be higher when this starts) shaman on another account.