Dark Specced SM
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Zeratuhl said:and how useful will Supp sm be in NF when they nerf pbaoe to not go through doors/walls. as on US servers ive heard rvr is 75% keep taking.
Dont forget they also add that pbae stun proccing thingy. Pbae gonna be useless in NF.
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My sm has cap ToA armor, but is only RR4. Still, avarage dmg on albs (who are more then often without cold resist buff) is 450-500 dmg. And since my castspeed is as good as caped albs cloth wearers drop with 2-3 nukes. Never more then 3. Hibs on the other hand run with cold resist up, and i nuke them for ~350 dmg.Nimah™ said:Dark specced kobby SM, con10 piety10 dex10 at start-up, what they like in rvr? Do they get groups regularly or usually found soloing, what average damage when fully toa'd and rr4-5+ ? Just a few questions, as i'm levelling my sm and never played bid before
Thanks
When im soloing Dark SM is > my BD...
In my opinion. Start out Sup. Its a lot better for PvE and probably low RR as well. Then when you have the TOA outfit all your artis are exped and you are RR4+ its best to respec for Dark.
Supp really only works vs the less good RvR groups. With the zillion pets around you can moc one zerg and die in the next.
So unless you play in very good stun / mes groups, go Dark.
Supp really only works vs the less good RvR groups. With the zillion pets around you can moc one zerg and die in the next.
So unless you play in very good stun / mes groups, go Dark.
Bonehead said:My sm has cap ToA armor, but is only RR4. Still, avarage dmg on albs (who are more then often without cold resist buff) is 450-500 dmg. And since my castspeed is as good as caped albs cloth wearers drop with 2-3 nukes. Never more then 3. Hibs on the other hand run with cold resist up, and i nuke them for ~350 dmg.
When im soloing Dark SM is > my BD...
Aye, not many takes friars into their groups
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supp s0x, dark r0x comprende?
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Supp is great in skilled groups and keep warfare (for now) but grab a Dark SM with some buffs and solo yourself to heaven..
Not to mention grouping with a dark runie.. :worthy:
Kitty has always been Supp, but i'd respec to dark if for some reason I'd start playing again.
Not to mention grouping with a dark runie.. :worthy:
Kitty has always been Supp, but i'd respec to dark if for some reason I'd start playing again.
if one caster in group then dark sm > supp sm
usually you dont need bg for dark (well you need but you can live without it)
so you can drop that bg guy and take another banelord zerk
dmg output will be higher, and there will be much more interrupts
supp is good for farming myrmidons tho
usually you dont need bg for dark (well you need but you can live without it)
so you can drop that bg guy and take another banelord zerk
dmg output will be higher, and there will be much more interrupts
supp is good for farming myrmidons tho
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RvR guilds usually have that effect. I wouldn't know though, since I don't waste my time there.Meril said:
What happened to you Meril? Is it the RP that's gotten to your head?
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Could be mistaking him for someone with similar nameKlonk said:
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lol judging dark sm performance by some random dood picked up at mpk? Thats silly Meril 
Speaking for myself, i didnt want to respec to dark either but when most nukers are single target DDing, spreading out fast, pbae is just a piece of shit against decent grps where as i said u will single DD. For that kind of nuking dark is a lot much better, add single Dex + red AE/Dexqui debuff top of that and it rox against enemy casters.
With caped resist pierce (yeh will get nerfed but for now) iam nuking 500-585 on albs, 400-500 on hibs. Doing this faster, with less mana as a supp sm would do... wont mention the hp leech from the nukes. Supp is good for insta farming low rr unbalanced albs at amg, but will have hard time against a decent caster grp (shit ranged DDs, did i say that already?)
Same player behind dark sm and supp sm will make DARK far superior over supp, just becouse the game is about single target nooking atm (and prolly will be)
About grp setups, it just comes down to the players rly... the best setup for my liking is :
3healer, 1 shamy, 1 dark sm, 1 supp rm, 1 supp bd, 1 warrior
We can get the most out of that, works for us... silly to argue about best setups, just find the ideal for your playerbase who you play together a lot imo4
Speaking for myself, i didnt want to respec to dark either but when most nukers are single target DDing, spreading out fast, pbae is just a piece of shit against decent grps where as i said u will single DD. For that kind of nuking dark is a lot much better, add single Dex + red AE/Dexqui debuff top of that and it rox against enemy casters.
With caped resist pierce (yeh will get nerfed but for now) iam nuking 500-585 on albs, 400-500 on hibs. Doing this faster, with less mana as a supp sm would do... wont mention the hp leech from the nukes. Supp is good for insta farming low rr unbalanced albs at amg, but will have hard time against a decent caster grp (shit ranged DDs, did i say that already?
)Same player behind dark sm and supp sm will make DARK far superior over supp, just becouse the game is about single target nooking atm (and prolly will be)
About grp setups, it just comes down to the players rly... the best setup for my liking is :
3healer, 1 shamy, 1 dark sm, 1 supp rm, 1 supp bd, 1 warrior
We can get the most out of that, works for us... silly to argue about best setups, just find the ideal for your playerbase who you play together a lot imo4
well listning all ppl darksm blababla ... zzzz
Anyway ill try writing on FH when im not tired and pissed of cause of add mania by all the "we dont add grps in emain".
Supp specced we use it for killing pets, works like a charm u should try it. pull assisttrain thats on your healurs to pbaoebox to kill it works offen, anyway groove's setup isent based on nuke dmg output, and well the using of zerkers .. we're focus on melee dmg and zerkers are dangerous,yes for 30 secs every 7 min or something, yes single target nuking and zerker dmg maybe enough, but nukers get interupted u said so yourself some time earlyer in your posts. Yes snaringtencs is sweet interupting .. but without stunn immunity it takes out a zerker .. dosent it ?
anyway supp specced sm fits the setup we're running with atm, yes we've tryed darkness, found the lack of petkilling annoying.
And about who is the most rp gaining sm sure its bc and ce, but then again we used whats home and ready to play .. so fare thise week we've used Bonehead-djiin-grawen-slanatea .. cant remember if we're used minni aswell .
About the things with rps raised to my head .. i dunno .. the lack of sleep last night might have turned me to the dark side.. about that, i dont really care wont say sorry if ive stepped on some bc feet .. only thing ill say sorry for is not stomping hard enough.
Darkness sm is proberly the way to go in NF, but it aint here yet .. will problerly hit eu in late november early december, when its here lets see how the rvr changes.
anyway gl out there .. and sorry for going off topic creator of teh thread
Anyway ill try writing on FH when im not tired and pissed of cause of add mania by all the "we dont add grps in emain".
Supp specced we use it for killing pets, works like a charm u should try it. pull assisttrain thats on your healurs to pbaoebox to kill it works offen, anyway groove's setup isent based on nuke dmg output, and well the using of zerkers .. we're focus on melee dmg and zerkers are dangerous,yes for 30 secs every 7 min or something, yes single target nuking and zerker dmg maybe enough, but nukers get interupted u said so yourself some time earlyer in your posts. Yes snaringtencs is sweet interupting .. but without stunn immunity it takes out a zerker .. dosent it ?
anyway supp specced sm fits the setup we're running with atm, yes we've tryed darkness, found the lack of petkilling annoying.
And about who is the most rp gaining sm sure its bc and ce, but then again we used whats home and ready to play .. so fare thise week we've used Bonehead-djiin-grawen-slanatea .. cant remember if we're used minni aswell .
About the things with rps raised to my head .. i dunno .. the lack of sleep last night might have turned me to the dark side.. about that, i dont really care wont say sorry if ive stepped on some bc feet .. only thing ill say sorry for is not stomping hard enough.
Darkness sm is proberly the way to go in NF, but it aint here yet .. will problerly hit eu in late november early december, when its here lets see how the rvr changes.
anyway gl out there .. and sorry for going off topic creator of teh thread
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Sorry, trade has already been doneKlonk said:Hi, saw your post on SMs, if you need to transfer some money to mid/excal from alb/prydwen - give me a call, I need ca 5 p or so on alb, have my mains here on mid/excal
Goodluck getting one anyway.For you Klonk, as your PM box is full
Meril said:
have been reading cougar memoirs last night or what?
do you think i should buy a copy?
if you have non afk shaman pets shouldnt be much of the problem
and 176 delve pbae should be enough to kill any pet except for fullbuffed simulacrum, in this case it's anyway better to kill that avalonian rather than his pet
you can play with shadowblades or hunters in group, noone will care
the guy asked whether dark specced sms get groups or not
and the fact that top sms on excalibur are dark specced says for itself
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