Daoc as my own thoughs. (Requiel read this if posible)

[Zexxeh]

We all know the situation in daoc atm not only in Excalibur/Prydwen cluster but in all servers over the world. I know I am not an expert in this criteria but I would like to show some points of view.
As far I can see daoc needs a change the times I got fun playing daoc is when in my 1 vs 1 others dont add or in 8 vs 8 there are not ass jams. There are people that dont add and thats fair but we can´t get rid of all people that play daoc so there are others that do so.
I find this solutions to improve pvp:

1. Make an arena for 8 vs 8 (big space), 5 vs 5, 4 vs 4, 3 vs 3, 2 vs 2 , 1 vs 1

2. This arena will work as instances so that will improve lag rates and
game will work better.

3. The game will become more competitive and events such as CPL will keep an eye in DaoC or maybe mythic can make his own events. These events means publicity, popularity... In a few words money and improvement of the game the 2 things both players and mythic want.

4. The PVE system will remain the same. Same lvl experience , master levels, artifacts, etc. (although classic server wont have such things)

5. The players that win this arena will get some prizes in game.

As for the game itself I would improve pvp New Frontiers and Labyrinth:

1. New Frontiers tend to make ppls camp a dock or attack towers and Labyrinth is fast easy rps /rel kill kill and again.

2. I dont think bring Old Frontiers back is posible but make Agramon as a full zone of 8 vs 8 fights would be better maybe you can place relics there like in labyrinth also Agramon will remain a port zone like a BG so guilds that want to play there will port there.

3. I would change also the buff system like it is on classic servers that will make that no longer we need a buff bot to play game which is absurd.

And for last thing its very sad to hear people that WOW and Guild Wars got VERY GOOD TEAMPLAY. Thats because they dont know DAOC because alll people here that have played both games know what I am talking about so...
MYTHIC wake up and show them you have made the best PVP game ever!!

 

[Arethir]

you do know there is a thread where we should post everything directed at Requiel atm? Posted by him called "A discussion".

 

[Muylaetrix]

try guildwars or counterstrike.

 

[Eeben]

try guildwars or counterstrike.

an what if he wants to play daoc ? but dont like the zerging, bridgecamping crap?

 

[Ahlgard]

The fact that a pvp-heavy game like Daoc hasnt got an arena which allows 8 vs 8 and other competitive modes is a big mystery to me.

 

[Ucallme]

All this about 8 v 8, 5 v 5, 3 v 3 etc... is beyond me. I know im against the adding policy but after all we all do it from time to time. But the Arena thing is a bad idea because it takes the 'Realm v Realm' out the window.

Amphrax/Arauddry

 

[Zexxeh]

Im not saying that RvR will be removed just to implement the arena as a competitive system to gather ppls and make daoc more popular. RvR will remain the same with the new incorporation of arena.

Btw hello arauddry nice enemy

 

[Ahlgard]

But the Arena thing is a bad idea because it takes the 'Realm v Realm' out the window.

Amphrax/Arauddry

More pvp options is never bad imo.

 

[Darzil]

I'd suggest an arena with no rp rewards, but giving /title rewards might be an interesting way to go. /title didn't exist when arena's were first mooted.

Titles or 10/50/100/1000 arena 8v8 wins, or solo wins could be interesting.

Darzil

 

[whinersmincer]

an what if he wants to play daoc ? but dont like the zerging, bridgecamping crap?

go thid

 

[Appollo]

Please make DAOC like WoW

Erm no!

 

[Zexxeh]

Erm no!

Dont distort what I´ve writen before thx.

 

[Tuthmes]

Go awah mr. pd5 + sunweapon + cele charge! You make mah ranja QQ irl

 

[Eleasias]

The fact that a pvp-heavy game like Daoc hasnt got an arena which allows 8 vs 8 and other competitive modes is a big mystery to me.

avalon has it basicly, its just so fucking awesome i cant stop to preach about it avalon IS the perfect server for everyone

 

[Illudian]

an what if he wants to play daoc ? but dont like the zerging, bridgecamping crap?

Then dont play Realm vs Realm.

 

[Silverhawk]

Hey! I don't play since 3 months after classic servers arrived, but I got enough info from friends that still play this great pvp game (at least it was time ago)

Mythic wants to keep a rough amount of population doing every aspect of the game easier (xp, ml, pvp). They are introducing some changes that made, and will make the game more imbalanced, so its becoming an "I level and play what's fotm during this patch and I'll see what I play next".

What you are arguing, are good ideas of course, but Mythic already "want" to kill Daoc and prepare us for Warhammer online, they won't put more effort that they need for having some fixed monthly incomings from regular players, you know.

Long live to daoc! dont let Avalon fall :touch:

 

[Septina]

Then dont play Realm vs Realm.

Think its his choice to play the game the way he wants to play it.

 

[Danord_durin]

Then dont play Realm vs Realm.

?

 

[-*-Lothlorion-*-]

Ive said all along that the arena idea is a good one..
The only thing i think should be diffrent is that ARENA duels should earn NO RPs , this would have less impact on rvr , and also make room the the people that just wanna "duel without adding" and hopefully stop some of the bad mouthing that goes on between .... and i use this term lightly "Realm Mates".

just my 2cents

 

[Gibbo]

Ive said all along that the arena idea is a good one..
The only thing i think should be diffrent is that ARENA duels should earn NO RPs , this would have less impact on rvr , and also make room the the people that just wanna "duel without adding" and hopefully stop some of the bad mouthing that goes on between .... and i use this term lightly "Realm Mates".

just my 2cents

It would impact on RvR by removing people from it. DAoC is built on the RvR concept, now you can argue that Mythic have got the implementation wrong but creating more areas and diluting the population isn't the answer.

 

[kirennia]

It would impact on RvR by removing people from it. DAoC is built on the RvR concept, now you can argue that Mythic have got the implementation wrong but creating more areas and diluting the population isn't the answer.

It wouldn't remove people from the scene because after a while, fighting in the exact same terrain and there being no jumps etc would lead to returns to the frontiers. It just gives people an extra option. /duel didn't take anyone away from the frontiers afterall.

 

[Erulin]

And how would you actualy see this happen ? You'd need a way to communicate with an enemy realm group, wouldn't you.

I mean, how else would you be able to set up an 8vs8 fight, or a 5vs5 fight ? Just hang around till an appropriate sized group entered it on the opposite side ?

As far as I know communications with the other realms are still a no no... I know, I know, IRC you say. But not everyone is on IRC, or even wants to or can be on IRC.

Just something to think about.

 

[Bracken]

Isn't Agramon used for 8v8? I thought that was working pretty well for a while.

 

[Fahdlan]

reminds me of wow...

 

[-*-Lothlorion-*-]

And how would you actualy see this happen ? You'd need a way to communicate with an enemy realm group, wouldn't you.

I mean, how else would you be able to set up an 8vs8 fight, or a 5vs5 fight ? Just hang around till an appropriate sized group entered it on the opposite side ?

As far as I know communications with the other realms are still a no no... I know, I know, IRC you say. But not everyone is on IRC, or even wants to or can be on IRC.

Just something to think about.

Just have an area where you port in , and type the command /duel challenge ect but works vrs other realms... i think it could simply be done.. and as an above poster wrote... it just lets theese people that want to duel get it out of there system.. sure thay will be back in real rvr ... as a kill in the duel zone would be worth NO RPs ...
as i said before just an idea

 

[liloe]

try guildwars or counterstrike.

Hello, I'm Muylaetrix and I used to have some good ideas. Now I'm degraded to a flamewhore who jumps on everyone who thinks differently....

That's what it is Muylaetrix. You're one of the forum moaners #1 nowadays and have no respect for other opinion than yours, still you wish that others respect how you play the game?

Also you're using the same responses that all the spammers are using, which really doesn't speak for your creativity.

 

[Huntingtons]

what i dont understand is how come mythic didnt implent the much needed changes before people started leaving? that would have kept a lot larger player base :/

 

[Asha]

More pvp options is never bad imo.

It actually is because it dilutes the population more and more and more and more....

 

[islef]

avalon has it basicly, its just so fucking awesome i cant stop to preach about it avalon IS the perfect server for everyone

Indeed i have never enjoyed DAoC as much as i do now on avalon... the strange thing is that the game is exactly the same, just with loooooaaads more on the server... /ponder

any bright ideas why every1 seems to be pleased with the same exact same game just because there is more people playing it? And i mean every1; 8vs8 zerg vs zerg pve solo, everything seems to be found in abundance, with no arenas without OF and all the other stuff that is apperently wrong with the game at its current state.

/share views

 

[eble@work]

Indeed i have never enjoyed DAoC as much as i do now on avalon... the strange thing is that the game is exactly the same, just with loooooaaads more on the server... /ponder

any bright ideas why every1 seems to be pleased with the same exact same game just because there is more people playing it? And i mean every1; 8vs8 zerg vs zerg pve solo, everything seems to be found in abundance, with no arenas without OF and all the other stuff that is apperently wrong with the game at its current state.

/share views

Please no more Avalon whores here, I cant move my chars so I'm stuck! I dont want to know how great this Game is somewhere else I like my shitty little server and I'll try to be the 'Last man standing' tho I think I will be fighting a wild frenchman with probably three DI bots by then.

Eble