DAOC 4 LiNUX

[greenfingers]

I got original windows XP, win2k .. didn't cost me nothing ...

no I didn't nick em from some store, neither did I get em free with my computer... but they are still original, cd-key etc works ...

Linux is still free for a few months then it gonna die ..

MUAHAHAHA ... guess what ....

imo U can /(&* /($d][#" linux back in the 70's where it came from .. and STAY there !!!


THANK YOU SCO !!!!!!!!

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

Your comments about Linux get more n00bish as you go on. Linux cant die, and the 70s thing you mention is UNIX, the core of Linux, without which you would have a shat time getting cash and security from banks, building societies and many other systems.

Obviously your knowledge of the OS is also limited, Linux was developed to make UNIX more usable on desktops and in general, and is more the name for the GUI system it has addopted to make UNIX an easier system to use.

I would not be at all surprized if right now, we are typing into a UNIX web server running Apache or somethign similar, in fact a majority of web servers are Linux / Unix.

I suggest you go read up on it a little more before you carry on, dont flame what you dont know.

Mehuge m8, what makes Linux Illegal? Just the fact that Bill "Tight arse homo" Gates made it so? Erm....isnt he also the chap the monopolies commision are stamping on.....

 

[Tasans]

Originally posted by -ag-bometal
Feels this thread turning into a Winblows VS Linux discussion.

Let us compare shall we ?

Linux = free, windows = $$$$
Linux = stable, windows = ! stable
Linux = loads of free goodies, windows = $$$$
Linux = ownz for developers, loads of compilers, editors, GUI's, standard included in your OS.
Linux = Security much better then windows, windows has more bugs and security fixes (for example no really linux virusses known)
Linux = open source, Used in banks and such, so they can check the source so no backdoors are available (winblows has backdoors imo)

Windows = Gaming, linux :/ (although transgaming tries to fix it)
Windows = easy Hardware config and software config (in Linux a bit harder)

If i can run daoc in linux, bye bye windows (allthough i need winblows for my school projects in Visual .NET) :/ => NERF

My 2 cents...

Windows = get your free copy today.

Xp home edition is the only crapy os, win 2k and xp prof are much better. And win 2003 are better than xp.

 

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Originally posted by greenfingers


Linux is still free for a few months then it gonna die ..

MUAHAHAHA ... guess what ....

imo U can /(&* /($d][#" linux back in the 70's where it came from .. and STAY there !!!


THANK YOU SCO !!!!!!!!

You are strange. Have you fail your linux/unix exams ?

 

[greenfingers]

not, yet .. and imo LINUX is old, crappy and the userinterface is unstable, wierd, and very VERY oldfashioned!

I'll agree with U that the linux servers are fortehwin compared to Windows

But after this school period, Im never gonna touch the userinterface again .. thank god

 

[ning]

Originally posted by greenfingers
not, yet .. and imo LINUX is old, crappy and the userinterface is unstable, wierd, and very VERY oldfashioned!

Where are the arguments ?

Originally posted by greenfingers
But after this school period, Im never gonna touch the userinterface again .. thank god

Bah, you do what you want. We don't care about your life.

 

[klavrynd]

>>not, yet .. and imo LINUX is old, crappy and the userinterface is
>>unstable, wierd, and very VERY oldfashioned!

they're all very sorry that you can't use a commandline because you're used to clicking icons ( gotten your first computer back when windows 9x was out and you needn't bother with dos i bet)

and fyi, "new" desktops looks just as much as a windows system

eg here

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

Originally posted by greenfingers
not, yet .. and imo LINUX is old, crappy and the userinterface is unstable, wierd, and very VERY oldfashioned!

I'll agree with U that the linux servers are fortehwin compared to Windows

But after this school period, Im never gonna touch the userinterface again .. thank god

Anyone else getting the hint hes either using a pre 2000 version of redhat or actually using UNIX and not Linux at all?

So what version are you using? Redhat, Madrake, etc?

What version number?

Whats the GUI? Gnome, KDE......???

Oh and Win2003, whe its out for real and gets not a single patch or update in the first 3 months, ill be impressed.

 

[greenfingers]

o_0

I like the : "everyone against the windows g33k that" U'r carrying out pretty nicely .. thx

yes, I've had a computer for 15 years now, kthx ... all running great with out linux / unix :bazbeer:

don't start flaming when U obviously haven't tried ANY of the nice features that WinXP or Win2k3 server has ...

I know that the "brand new" interface that Gnome has i pretty nice, but still looks like a MAC OS ...

There is NOTHING innovating in ANY of the Linux versions, and tbh I don't give a fuck ... and I bet that neither of U will ....

There will ALLWAYS be a Windows vs. Linux struggle, but I think that the only ones knowing about linux is the server-admins, networking admins etc ...

There are NO user's with respect for themselfes using linux OS, unless they are familiar with the OS ofc...

imho I think linux server is waaaay better then win2k server, more secure, more up to date and no crappy updates every fekking 14th day...
but I still believe that Linux eventually will die some day. But Im sure that U guys out there still will be using it for a decade or two

as I said earlier :

Windows = user interface

Linux = Server

that's a fact U have to live with

 

[klavrynd]

>> don't start flaming when U obviously haven't tried ANY of the
>>nice features that WinXP or Win2k3 server has ...

i don't know which ones you're talking about, but i'll trade them in for all the commandline goodies linux has

>>I know that the "brand new" interface that Gnome has i pretty >> nice, but still looks like a MAC OS ...

Mac OS X is Apple's effort to create a best-of-both-breeds operating system which directly leverages the advances and experience Apple has in the user experience arena and the well-established power of BSD. Mac OS X begins with a BSD foundation called Darwin. On Darwin we build the programming toolkits from Mac OS which we call Carbon, which in turn enables us to layer on the new user interface known as Aqua. Carbon also provides a straightforward transition strategy for our existing application base. We also provide a toolkit called Cocoa, which is an object-oriented API derived from NeXT's OpenStep.

there's tons of windowmanagers, and there's bound to be one that looks like windows


>> There is NOTHING innovating in ANY of the Linux versions

laff...

>> There are NO user's with respect for themselfes using linux
>> OS, unless they are familiar with the OS ofc...

that makes sense, but not really

windows = necro, two buttons
linux = healer, twice the power, but you need to know what you're doing

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

Originally posted by klavrynd
windows = necro, two buttons
linux = healer, twice the power, but you need to know what you're doing

Nicely put in a way he might understand

As for Win3billion service pak 91 l33t version, ok, so its got more pretty bits, they were in Linux already. Oh, and as for the look of Linux, its just as custominable as winblows.

BTW, i have squat to do with servers, and Im self taught on both OS's, it dont take a genius to work out the better one all round; ie the safest most secure and stable one.

 

[mehuge]

Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD
Obviously your knowledge of the OS is also limited, Linux was developed to make UNIX more usable on desktops and in general, and is more the name for the GUI system it has addopted to make UNIX an easier system to use.

Linux was a born out of a uni project and MINIX

Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD
I would not be at all surprized if right now, we are typing into a UNIX web server running Apache or somethign similar, in fact a majority of web servers are Linux / Unix.

Yes, linux is good at server stuff.

Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD
Mehuge m8, what makes Linux Illegal? Just the fact that Bill "Tight arse homo" Gates made it so? Erm....isnt he also the chap the monopolies commision are stamping on.....

No, the claim by SCO that portions of current linux kernel releases were ripped off from SCO. And yes, ofc Billy is interested in their claim. I also only threw that one in as a windup but if SCO have their way, haha, better get your hand in your pockets.

Why do you think Linux better than Windows? Cos u think Billy Boy has a Tight Arse?

 

[klavrynd]

only for nerds

 

[mehuge]

Originally posted by klavrynd
>>not, yet .. and imo LINUX is old, crappy and the userinterface is
>>unstable, wierd, and very VERY oldfashioned!

they're all very sorry that you can't use a commandline because you're used to clicking icons ( gotten your first computer back when windows 9x was out and you needn't bother with dos i bet)

and fyi, "new" desktops looks just as much as a windows system

eg here

Yes, they look nice, but pretty screen shots is not the be all and end all of a desktop O/S however.

 

[mehuge]

Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD
Oh and Win2003, whe its out for real and gets not a single patch or update in the first 3 months, ill be impressed.

Ever looked what "patches" are available for your Linux? Freaking loads of em at least as many as any Windows O/S. I've used both SuSE and Red Hat releases and both were the same. All new O/S releases need patches.

And Linux does not cost money? Only if you are prepared to download it and then you only get the lite versions, or you have to go source, download and install all the other extra bits yourself. A techies dream, but and end users nightmare.

What you pay for with linux is not the O/S code, but the packaging and support. Well guess what, that's what you pay for when you buy windows.

Only argument in Linuxes favour is that it is Open Source so you can see exactly what you are getting. Open Source has it's down sides too, like all the shite that gets in there along with good stuff.

 

[Elomiem]

ROFL...wtf are u talking bout..."What you pay for with linux is not the O/S code, but the packaging and support. Well guess what, that's what you pay for when you buy windows."thats the biggest BS ie ever heard..why ,IN GOD"S name would M$ keep their source secret if it was only for the support and packaging they wanted the money..do u know HOW much cash M$ would save on support if they would releas the source???
well,as it looks like atm Win2k3 isnt any better in patches then the other vers...ive been running win2k since it came out(yes i payed for it via student license) and d/led win2k3 ent. vers and i still get updates every day i use any of the 2 o/s's..and for the linux "patches/updates"....most of these updates(bout 99%) are released cause there's something added or u might need it if u wanna run some new vers. of a dev kernel etc..
to ure statement that linux will die out=pls go tell that to the 70%+ of the worlds companies that have servers/high process machines etc..u think they will change to M$???u must be j/king..

u say(well,u might have quoted it from SCO..) that linux is illegal..well,when Linus made his first version,Linux 0.1,and released it on the net he had made sure there would be no troubles with SCO because of the 103 lines!(about) of source he had "copied" from them..

and btw,if u say that linux is not user friendly have u ever tried KDE??it's like a i-use-window-but-i-wanna-be-a-linux-user ..cmon,even my mum can use linux nowadays..

it's always funny to read post like that from people like u mehu as it seems they only stick to windows and support it cause they can't get out of it..
uke:

well,for all those who wanna know about M$ future plans to try and control all infotech read this..:
http://www.epic.org/privacy/consumer/microsoft/palladium.html

it's about palladium,M$'s way to take control over every computer they want that runs it..and as every of those innocent M$ users dont know better they will get it ...uke:

 

[mehuge]

Originally posted by Elomiem
ROFL...wtf are u talking bout..."What you pay for with linux is not the O/S code, but the packaging and support.

I was refering to what the end user gets when they purchase a copy of Linux or Windows.

Originally posted by Elomiem
..and for the linux "patches/updates"....most of these updates(bout 99%) are released cause there's something added or u might need it if u wanna run some new vers. of a dev kernel etc..

Take a look at the errata for any of the recent versions of redhat for example, mostly security fixes, some bug fixes and no enhancements.

Originally posted by Elomiem
to ure statement that linux will die out=pls go tell that to the 70%+ of the worlds companies that have servers/high process machines etc..u think they will change to M$???u must be j/king..[?QUOTE]And where exactly did I say it will die out?

Originally posted by Elomiem
u say(well,u might have quoted it from SCO..) that linux is illegal..

As already stated in this thread, i threw in this statement as a wind up, and it worked well. Linux may be illegal if SCO's case is proven. If you want to be sure you are not operating illegal software you can buy a license to run the potentially illegal parts of linux here: http://www.sco.com/scosource/

Originally posted by Elomiem
and btw,if u say that linux is not user friendly have u ever tried KDE??it's like a i-use-window-but-i-wanna-be-a-linux-user ..cmon,even my mum can use linux nowadays..

I have used various versions of KDE, and Gnome which I prefere. Neither provide as smooth and fast a GUI environment as Windows. Both exhibit more bugs than any version of windows I have used since 95.

Originally posted by Elomiem
it's always funny to read post like that from people like u mehu as it seems they only stick to windows and support it cause they can't get out of it..

I just dont let any jealousy, shown by your continual use of M$, I might have of Billy's billions cloud my judgment when it comes to choosing the right O/S for the job. I choose to pay more for windows because it simply is the better O/S for the desktop. IMO

 

[Teren]

here is something for all you linux-gui haters ^^

www.xpde.com

 

[Loth]

Lots of pros and cons on both sides here, I use XP Pro for my 2 gaming rigs and Gentoo Linux on my server.

Gentoo rocks, it's really nice to have a system compiled totally from the source tailored to your machine architecture.
I'm also very up-to-date with this, I can update my system very easily to the latest software with a quick :

# emerge -u system

No waiting for M$ to release the next service pack

 

[Hit ^_^]

saying linux is free when you need to spend xxx unpaid hours to get os/software working and you cant do shit exept compiling your kernel and install new "free" softwere thats help you compile even more stuff.
even tho they worked on it sinse early 90's (linux that is not unix and minix and stuff like that) they still havent been abel to make it user friendly enough for "regular" ppl do use it.
maybe in 5-10years they made it easy enough for regular ppl to use it and play games exc, but ppl said the same thing 5years ago and not much seems to have happened since then.

sure there are a few decent ms office clones and gfx utils for commercial users but they still lack lots of the stuff and compability you need today that microsoft products and other windows softwere has. so as said for the end user linux more or less sucks atm but for at the sever side is ahead of most other os's.

 

[old.Nol]

Um, you do know that 2k/XP network stack was lifted from freeBSD and MS are in court about that right now? The biggest advantage of having "closed" code, is no one can prove you've stolen it.
They started off as a bunch of thieves and cheats and they're continuing their rich traditions.

I choose to pay more then Linux, less then XP and do everything that both can do

 

[torcuil]

Originally posted by mehuge
Linux = illegal

Um, what?

No. No no no no no.

No.

Got it?

 

[Hit ^_^]

ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub3/os/Linux/distributions/
get it free here and 100% legal.

 

[Demolay]

Bring back the PET and attack of the blue meanies

Linux does have Odins Eye tho lol for those strange enuf to want to load it!

 

[Elomiem]

lol,i had quite some laugh when i saw this old post come back up again ...

 

[Hit ^_^]

btw Elomiem whats whit all the tag's in your sig?

 

[jetsetminer]

For all those that think SCO have some kind of case against linux, you might like to take a look here:

http://www.groklaw.net/

A site run by a paralegal and they have done lots of research into SCO's claims and the history of the source code...

In summary, SCO don't have a leg to stand on and are engaged in a cinical stock pumping scam to make lots of money.

 

[old.yaruar]

Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD
Your comments about Linux get more n00bish as you go on......... UNIX, the core of Linux

linux != unix

never has been never will be

it's based on unix but it was written from the ground up.

n00b

 

[old.yaruar]

Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD

Oh and Win2003, whe its out for real and gets not a single patch or update in the first 3 months, ill be impressed.

any operating system worth it's salt patches regularly.

here at work we use a combination of nt4, win2k, winxp, solaris and redhat 2.2 enterprise edition + I've been a netware admin for about 5 years too and used os2 in previous workplaces.

redhat itself puts out many hotfixes and patches a week as do any other decent operating systems......

 

[old.yaruar]

Originally posted by Whoodoo_RD

BTW, i have squat to do with servers, and Im self taught on both OS's, it dont take a genius to work out the better one all round; ie the safest most secure and stable one.

You're beginning to sound like a /. linux fanboi..

All operating systems have their uses and advocates.

On the whole stability has less to do with the operating system itself and more to do with the software running on it and the administrator on that system.

I have nt4 boxes which have been running for months here with no problem, I've had win2k boxes which ran for 6 months plus in previous jobs. Although novell takes the cracker on this as, in my experience, it's the most stable os out there And don't get me started on why no other os has the undelete facilities of netware

Linux is good at what it does (although many would argue that you should head down the BSD route for stability and security)

Security likewise, most systems are only as secure as the admin using them. Unix and it's clones has more built in default security, but ms products can be secure too, just takes a little knowledge of the systems.

Computers are just tools, you need the right tool for the job you are doing simple as that, different os's fulfill different criteria as to what they do best.

in terms of desktop end user use MS has the market because they give people what they want. This is the problem that Linux especially is having to face up to, what most end users want isn't what most g33ks want.
It's telling that redhat is pulling itself out of the desktop/workstation market.