Damn Friars!

[Elrond/Ruffting]

I tell you what, everyone moans about how shadowblades are overpowered but if u want to find the real ones who should be nerfed, take a look at friars. A HEALING based class that can hit my level 50 shadowblade for 500 damage a swing? and these aren't super slow 2h type swings. In return I manage to hit their leather armour for some pitiful amount (providing they don't evade or parry me), less than i'd hit a chain wearer for. Where is the justice?

/sulks

 

[DocWolfe]

well since I've been paed by an sb for 1150 I'm guessing you need to revise your spec

 

[old.Tbird]

Originally posted by old.Docwolfe
well since I've been paed by an sb for 1150 I'm guessing you need to revise your spec

Would that be your lvl48 char or your lvl41? Non epic wearing players are waaaaaay easier to take out than epic wearers.

One of my first experiences as a 50SB was jumping a 50 Friar, I wasn't taking notice when I did it and the moment I unstealthed and swung my axes I had that 'Oh crap' feeling run through my mind. I was toasted in 3 swings having dealt maybe 25% dmg to the Friar.

 

[georgus]

OMG SBs cant solo someone quick nerf friars!

</sarcasm off>

 

[Sarum TheBlack]

Yay for the Anti-SB FriarZerg currently being plvled by the "this weeks hot character" crew

And yes.. friars kick serious ass. And they're great fun... there's just something about doing stick-fu in a dress....

 

[vermillon]

Who told you that you supposed to win every class in this game?
As a stealther you have the advantage to chooce when to engage a fight or not, so is just your fault that you got killed. Is simple ... stay away from the friars if you can't kill them and don't moan about nerfage. Oh!! and i belive you are not crit blade...... so thats the price for it. You wanted to tank everything huh!!!???

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

Try dueling one, nerf cold reisst chants etc!

 

[ulukin]

My one and onlt encounter 1 vs 1 with a friar I actually won without getting hit was actually a sb grouped with me close by but i guess they figured it was a caster (only reason i attacked it was because they were close and expected help) and yes i got RP's for her/him so wasn't res ill, whether or not they were surprised by the attack I dunno but i kicked her/his ass (wont be trying it again though been hit by a few friars and it stings like hell)

EDIT: yes the friar in question was LVL 50 in full epic.

 

[Garaen]

Dueling a few Friars really does make me want to create one

 

[wolfspirit]

Friars do kick serious arse and power to them ....but ......they r a healing class ( wish i could heal and buff and solo like 1 ) ps id never make 1 as i tend to like things that r different ......gave up on trying to own months ago. Maybe some others should try it PP

 

[-Nxs-]

Aye 24 Friar vs 24 shield spec Hero in Thid.... friar won hands down, way to easy. damn chap had over 50% hp left when i was dead.

If im ever back in alb... it will be a Friar first on my creation screen.

 

[old.Hellskor]

Wonder why everyone seems to be so surprised about the 'Friar-ownage'

Evade 5 +self buffs -> more closer to Evade 8, that +dodger <ack>
Parry ... pretty low for most friars, but still additional defense
End-regem Shout
Celerity Shout
Access to IP

Mythic Devs seems to think that Alb-Healing classes need to be better at fighting/casting than the Alb Fighters and Casters.

Smite-Cleric got nerfed
Friar -> new ub4r-l33tz0r

...wonder if any Mythic employee plays Mid or Hib

 

[old.linnet]

Originally posted by wolfshead
Friars do kick serious arse and power to them ....but ......they r a healing class

The ones who can heal decently are in a minority

It's very very common to find friars who whine like hell if they are even asked to only heal in downtime (they are the new smite clerics...), but expect to get into higher level groups as if they were healers.

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by old.Hellskor
Wonder why everyone seems to be so surprised about the 'Friar-ownage'

try a friar vs champion fight, if you want to see a friar get the crap beaten out of them. everyone has their weakness..

 

[lakih]

I think Friars are one of the coolest classes around, as a champ i get along quite well with them, sometimes lose, somtimes win.

The real problem here is the same as with clerics and somewhat Healers (the midgard class that is). They are all healing classes, but you can easily spec them in an offencive way, with is good, it gives the class verstiality. But it also gimps the realm somewhat due to the lack of good healing capabilities.
Playing a full specced healer class isnt very fun either (mending/rejuv/regrowth), i rather nick someones 2nd account and play a buffbott .

What im trying to say is that when you get your ass seriously whopped by a friar/cleric/healer you probobly have encounterd one of the fully offensive specced characters of that class.

 

[PadreMM]

Well put, Laikh

 

[old.Mitsu]

Most champions totally destroy friars because they rely on those buffed stats.

 

[stafford]

a shadowblade whining for a nerf ? thats rich

friars used to be shit
the dregs
a class thought up by mythic to torture me solely

then finally we get sum luvin !!!!
we can actually hurt sum1 ???
omg !
NERF

you see the thing is just cos your used to soloing blue cons on excal road (is it considered soling with a lvl 50 buffbot ?)

you finally come up against sum1 who can hold there own and you whine for a nerf

if a REAL dmg dealing tank engages me i usually die
take for example me dueling a lvl 50 2h pally ystday
i won first from a few lucky evades
then he killed me twice in a row

we arent uber, we just dont fall over when u PA us
and you dont like that...........



/incesent rage mode off

 

[Elrond/Ruffting]

Erm your friars hit me for the same damage as your armsmen, see any logic in that? friars are 10 times superior at least in melee combat compared to any other healing class, even warden. An assasin should be able to take out a healer, simple as that. We shouldn't be able to take out your tanks, which we can do more easily, where is the logic? I've seen solo friars take out a level 50 warrior and a level 50 thane at the same time, they are stupidly overpowered, they can even quite easily get up to the same evade level as an assasin, plus they get parry.

For your information I don't use a buffbot, quite ignorant of you to assume that I do, and that I spend all my time ganking low cons thanks. I'll have a go at any solo level 50, although i think i'll make friars the exception from now on.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by old.willowywicca


try a friar vs champion fight, if you want to see a friar get the crap beaten out of them. everyone has their weakness..

I like to see you fight gohrim

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes


I like to see you fight gohrim

no idea who that is, but sure, anytime also I didn't say that *I* would destroy a friar, any LW champ should, cos debuffs make the friar equivalent of being slightly less than unbuffed (<--- crap dmg and slow attack speed) and LW crush gets a bonus on friar leather, whilst friar staff gets a negative on scale (-41% on me for example ) just from that alone it should be clear a champ would own a friar

 

[old.Bubble]

hehe
maybe your shadowblade should pick his targets better

chomps do well in duels against most class's(people underestimate debuffs)

 

[ormorof]

Originally posted by old.willowywicca


try a friar vs champion fight, if you want to see a friar get the crap beaten out of them. everyone has their weakness..

my friar in thid kicked the crap out of some champs, others i got the crap kicked out of me, have to admit it depends wether i had my alacrity buff charged up and ready


oh and wether he was orange con or yellow con (did alot of time in bg as lvl 22-23)

 

[Pliny]

Nerf friars my arse they only just given us "class fixing buffs" which we have to recast every 10 mins yes friars can deal alot of damage but they cant take it and in rvr we r pretty poor cause most rvr fights r zergs and our strengths lie in 1v1 fighting. God friars used to only get 1xskill points and it got up'd to 1.5 later and an sb with 2xskill(or whatever it is) is moaning just shut up an go back to camping the alb entrance to HoC

 

[Rolo]

a shadowblade crying nerf? this is sweet...

 

[AevarSS]

Diary of a Shadowblade

Emain day 3841737212:

Sneak sneak sneak sneaky sneak... ooh! caster sneak sneaky sneak <zwing> <hit>

odd it didnt die in one hit. and why is he wearing a hat? and has a different type of staff? hmm <thwomp> ow <thwomp><thwomp> ow NERF! ow...

/send Healer gifv rez! was jumped by 60 albs, took out 50 of them, but then another lot came.

/spam barrysworld NERF FRIARS

 

[Turamber]

Originally posted by Elrond/Ruffting
friars are 10 times superior at least in melee combat compared to any other healing class ... An assasin should be able to take out a healer, simple as that.

Would like to see the statistics to back up this '10 times superior' claim.

Friars can spec to be fighters, or they can spec to be healers. If they specced to be healers you would win the fight - your bad luck that they specced to be fighters.

Rather than spamming BW asking for nerfs 'cos you can't be as uber as you like spend more time in game learning to choose your targets better.

 

[Elrond/Ruffting]

You guys really are ignorant, spamming your stereotypes over these boards is a complete waste of time, if any of you actually did any research or new who I was you would know that I do not conform to any of the things you have said.

My issue here is NOT target recognition as I am perfectly capable of that, I don't know why you people keep trying to push that as an arguement, it's easy to tell a friar from a caster. My issue is that an assasin should be able to solo any healing class and NOT a tank class, I have no problem with being beaten by a tank or another assasin..If I feel like risking a fight with an armsman and I lose that is no problem as it is to be expected.

The overriding point is that an assasin should be able to kill a healing class easily. Assasins are supposed to take out the soft, support classes and leave the slugfests to the warrior types. I suppose to be fair I should take an angle from both sides and say it should also be made harder for us to kill tanks...which to be honest is becoming more apparent as most tanks now have IP, which I don't really have a problem with as it suits the class...but to give it to a friar as well is plain silly. I find it twice as easy to beat a level 50 warrior solo than a level 50 friar.

And Turamber, having played a Midgard healer and Hibernian warden, I think I'm in a good position to make an educated estimate as to how the healing classes of the realms compare thanks...you think my warden or healer would have any chance of defeating a friar? hell no, my healer especially, altho soloing with a healer whilst keeping an even slightly nongimped spec is a joke, but a different matter.

 

[old.Atrox]

and Pure casters should be able to kill any tank easy.

 

[Derric]

I think someone needs a hug