Cue WWIII.

[old.Osy]

Gaza blockade: Iran offers escort to next aid convoy | World news | The Guardian

Discuss.

 

[Raven]

Good on them, at least someone is doing the right thing.

Lets see if Israel have the balls to fire on armed people instead of unarmed civilians.

 

[TdC]

erm, that would be bad, Raven. there is not a single good thing that will come of an Israel - Iran face off

 

[old.Osy]

I think you're wrong there, Tdc... our grand-grand-grand-grand kids will enjoy movies based on the subject of WWIII.

That has to be a good thing. I think?

 

[Ch3tan]

Good on them, at least someone is doing the right thing.

Lets see if Israel have the balls to fire on armed people instead of unarmed civilians.

Yes they will, they have a much stronger armed force than Iran, and this is a recipe for disaster.

Iran know full well that they are antagonising the situation, this has nothing to do with doing the "right thing".

 

[Raven]

I disagree. There is no way Israel can attack another nation in international waters, that would be too far for any country to back them. They are only happy to attack civilians because, even though it goes against everything any civilised country stands for is not enough for them to react/care that much.

If Iran play it right it It would be a massive humiliation for Israel, they need a bloody nose right now.

 

[TdC]

I think you're wrong there, Tdc... our grand-grand-grand-grand kids will enjoy movies based on the subject of WWIII.

That has to be a good thing. I think?

maybe....but what language will the movies be in? now there's a question

 

[Raven]

maybe....but what language will the movies be in? now there's a question

Chinese

 

[Tuthmes]

Isreal is a paranoid country thats getting close to doin exactly the same as the Nazi's did to the Jews 70 years ago.

Gaza = a ghetto. Give it a couple of more years and see what they come up with then.

 

[Shagrat]

anyone who thinks the Israeli's will back down from a confrontation with Iran is massively wrong.

 

[Ch3tan]

anyone who thinks the Israeli's will back down from a confrontation with Iran is massively wrong.

Yes, it seems no one learns from history any more. The one thing Isreal are not scared of is military action, they are just waiting for an excuse to last out at their Arab neighbours.

 

[ECA]

Nice to watch an away match on the TV once in a while.

 

[Tuthmes]

Yes, it seems no one learns from history any more. The one thing Isreal are not scared of is military action, they are just waiting for an excuse to last out at their Arab neighbours.

What goes with this is the Americans backing Isreal up 100% of the time.

 

[Ch3tan]

Of course they do, large Jewish community in America, which is worth a lot of money.

 

[gohan]

add to this the north/south korea sub sinking, and WWIII really could be here soon

 

[Tuthmes]

Nah that would take the banks to fail. Euhm....

 

[soze]

I disagree. There is no way Israel can attack another nation in international waters, that would be too far for any country to back them. They are only happy to attack civilians because, even though it goes against everything any civilised country stands for is not enough for them to react/care that much.

If Iran play it right it It would be a massive humiliation for Israel, they need a bloody nose right now.

Israel just wait for them to hit the blockade in Israeli national waters and then its an act of war if Iran carry on?

 

[old.Tohtori]

I think you're wrong there, Tdc... our grand-grand-grand-grand kids will enjoy movies based on the subject of WWIII.

That has to be a good thing. I think?

Yeah, if WW3 broke out now, well, imagine how much entertainment, games and such we've gotten from the whole nazi thing

We can't let the kids of 2070 down.

It's the 70s man!

Though sadly our WWIII will be trumped by WWIV in media and THAT will be moneycow.

 

[Genedril]

Nah that would take the banks to fail. Euhm....

Pfft, it's when people start invading for resources such as oil....

 

[Thorwyn]

What goes with this is the Americans backing Isreal up 100% of the time.

I´m not sure about the 100% part. Last time when Israel crossed a line, the reaction of the White House was quite critical and blunt. The jewish influence on/in the USA is huge, no doubt. But I`m not sure if Obama is going to risk another war in the region while they´re still trying to handle the results of the last one. PLUS, this time, they would face a huge strategical disadvantage compared to the Iraq war. Turkey will not give them access to their bases and supply points, because they´re on the other side of the fence.

On the other hand, Iran has been a thorn in the flesh of the "western world" ever since they declared that they´re developing for nuclear power/weapons. A situation like this would be a perfect excuse to solve that problem "en passant" just like it has happened in the past (look at the alleged Iraqui weapons of mass destruction).

However, the entire Israel/Palestinia situation should have been sorted out long time ago. It´s simply disgusting that this "conflict" has the potential to ignite a global confrontation.

Being german automatically means that whenever you say something even remotely anti-israel, you´re automatically being stamped as neo-fascist. Some of you guys certainly know from my posting-history, that my political POV´s are (more than) liberal. But to be honest, I`m sick and tired of all the subliminal and not so subliminal aggressive israeli politics combined with the eternal victim role.

To quote Pratchett
"There is a curse. They say: May you live in interesting times."
Looks like we´ve been cursed.

 

[Tuthmes]

I´m not sure about the 100% part. Last time when Israel crossed a line, the reaction of the White House was quite critical and blunt.

That's all they ever do. It's a facade. The time the US does anything against Isreal is the time when this whole problem goes away.

It's always the same. Isreal does something the rest of the world condempts, the US waves it's finger and the rest of the world is happy with it. A couple of years l8r and the same shit happends (although it's getting dire atm).

Isreal is overreacting in every way and they know it. As soon as you mention this, the whole of the history of Isreal and WWII is mentioned and then it's justified in every way.

What they do is just planting more seeds of aggression and they are fine with it. It will justify there way of going about with this. The bs needs to stop and should have stopped 60 years ago. To bad the US is holding Isreal's back. Shame Great Britain is backing up the US again and the EU cant be arsed about it.

What would solve it is to make a new country of it. Neither Isreal nor Palestian. No democratie either, cause people will start to moan asap and the shit will start all over again.

 

[Tuthmes]

On the other hand, Iran has been a thorn in the flesh of the "western world" ever since they declared that they´re developing for nuclear power/weapons. A situation like this would be a perfect excuse to solve that problem "en passant" just like it has happened in the past (look at the alleged Iraqui weapons of mass destruction).

Well if England whas threathen by The Netherlands of beeing bomb by nuclair weapons what would England do? Cause basically thats what you're talking about.

 

[Thorwyn]

Well if England whas threathen by The Netherlands of beeing bomb by nuclair weapons what would England do? Cause basically thats what you're talking about.

Not sure what you´re aiming at or whether you got my point here. Iran - according to the USA - is potentially dangerous. And the political leaders, especially the guy in the cotton suit, are not exactly trying to dilute this.

At the moment, it looks like both sides are trying to establish a situation where both sides are able to hide behind the entire thing and call it a reason for further actions.

 

[Tuthmes]

Being german automatically means that whenever you say something even remotely anti-israel, you´re automatically being stamped as neo-fascist. Some of you guys certainly know from my posting-history, that my political POV´s are (more than) liberal. But to be honest, I`m sick and tired of all the subliminal and not so subliminal aggressive israeli politics combined with the eternal victim role.

To quote Pratchett
"There is a curse. They say: May you live in interesting times."
Looks like we´ve been cursed.

I couldn't agree more. The time of blaiming everything and everyone in Germany for what happend in WWII is long since gone. The lesson to be learned what happend there should teach us so that it will never happen again. Alas it did 20-10 years ago yet again in former Yugoslavia and it will happen again.

People need to learn and stop generalize when it comes to countries, race, or whatever and learn to live with eachother. Even if this means to have a minarette in your backgarden.

 

[Tuthmes]

Not sure what you´re aiming at or whether you got my point here. Iran - according to the USA - is potentially dangerous. And the political leaders, especially the guy in the cotton suit, are not exactly trying to dilute this.

At the moment, it looks like both sides are trying to establish a situation where both sides are able to hide behind the entire thing and call it a reason for further actions.

The problem for Iran is that Isreal does have nuclear weapons. That in itself possesses a great danger to Iran. The moment Iran do get their hands on it they might wanne be the first to take action.

 

[Thorwyn]

The problem for Iran is that Isreal does have nuclear weapons. That in itself possesses a great danger to Iran. The moment Iran do get their hands on it they might wanne be the first to take action.

That´s the old cold war situation we used to have 30 years ago. Being the first to take action doesn´t mean you´re going to win. It just means the other side is going to respond accordingly, which usually means you´re doomed.

 

[Tuthmes]

That´s the old cold war situation we used to have 30 years ago. Being the first to take action doesn´t mean you´re going to win. It just means the other side is going to respond accordingly, which usually means you´re doomed.

Well that didnt stop the USSR from developing their nuclear weapons. You want to put the other side facing the same d00m as you do, so they wont even think about using it. That's the whole basis of the cold war.

 

[Thorwyn]

Well that didnt stop the USSR from developing their nuclear weapons. You want to put the other side facing the same d00m as you do, so they wont even think about using it. That's the whole basis of the cold war.

Exactly!
And that´s the decisive difference to the current situation. Iran doesn´t have nuclear weapons, but they say they´re going for it. So what would be a better excuse to eliminate this potiential threat than jumping in for the old allies and give them bad guys a good beating?

In my opinion, i´ts all about hiding the true intentions... just like alawys.

 

[Punishment]

Another chance for the yanks to justify their military spend by totally going against un laws again , i bet the arms manufactuers are drooling at the thought , they get to re-equip the yanks AND keep selling 2nd rate arms to the jews

Hang on in there , this will be interesting ...

 

[aika]

I couldn't agree more. The time of blaiming everything and everyone in Germany for what happend in WWII is long since gone. The lesson to be learned what happend there should teach us so that it will never happen again. Alas it did 20-10 years ago yet again in former Yugoslavia and it will happen again.

People need to learn and stop generalize when it comes to countries, race, or whatever and learn to live with eachother. Even if this means to have a minarette in your backgarden.

I will never agree to a minarette in my backgarden.