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duact

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censi said:
game is great because theres all different types of players giving variety. from the leet peeps who pick stealthers, to the not so leet but dedicated who pick visual melee classes or melee hybrids, to the simpletons who run on mages (also worthless), to the ultimate retard moders who run and stick with like WL's BDs sorcs etc....

just my twisted 2 cents as always.

ye coz when u pick stealther u become leeet!1
 

censi

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there is a real contradiction about this "leet" thing. The newbs associate it with people thinking they are better players than others.

tbh I find like the good honorable guys are non leet, they are like happy go lucky hippies on the battlefield, will come and destealth and watch you fight and hug you afterwards etc these dudes that do this are always the ones that are top notch players (theoden, oli, warhead, druzic, kagato, xryo, bradlex etc.. etc..)...

on the other hand the "nice guys", "its ok to add its irvr", "normal/casual gamer," "its war meight" ,"WL is balanced" type dudes dont give you an inche and will leech every ounce of RP they can get out of the game even if it means ruining a fight for a realm mate. that for me is a leetist attitude, fuck anyones fun just superglue tape measure next to RP bar.
They will also pick the class which is most suited to achieving this.

sorry but its a fact.
 

Danord_durin

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brad said:
Raven wasn't saying you weren't soloing, think he saying you couldn't handle another class so you logged ure wl instead to kill when solo. Think thats what his saying right?

Get that on your warrior and i'll be proud. :)

And very bored
 

Arumos

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unlike a majority of people on these boards i play the game soley for fun and dont pick my classes in order to look cool or make others like me.I do enjoy speaking to people ingame and usually on these boards also. However if it wasnt for people like me who do bring a bit of spice to the game and dont follow the dictated dont add rules then it would be incredibly dull. I play the way the game was designed to be played.

people would be queing up to fight one another if everyone didnt add/zerg/leech which quite frankly would be utter shite. Will i still be playing my wl after the 'overhyped' warlock nerf? hell yeah, got rr10 to get.

Well anyway gunna stop my replies to these threads/boards now anyway, far too one sided where people would rather insult other people than discuss in a friendly manner.
 

Danord_durin

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Arumos said:
unlike a majority of people on these boards i play the game soley for fun and dont pick my classes in order to look cool or make others like me.I do enjoy speaking to people ingame and usualyl on these boards also. However if it wasnt for people like me who do bring a bit of spice to the game and dont follow the dictated dont add rules then it would be incredibly dull. I play the way the game was designed to be played.

people would be queing up to fight one another if everyone didnt add/zerg/leech which quite frankly would be utter shite. Will i still be playing my wl after the 'overhyped' warlock nerf? hell yeah, got rr10 to get. Will i quit once i done that? prollt not, will roll another caster as this friggin game is one hell of an addiction :)

Well anyway gunna stop my replies to these threads/boards now anyway, far too one sided where people would rather insult other people than discuss in a friendly manner.

U do know when its late and ur bored insulting can be nice:)
 

censi

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you play the game for easy kills, end of. The WL class is boring to play, zero challenge and no one in game gives a rats arse about them or wants to go anywhere near them.

mythic should just restrict warlocks to like their own RVR area, with little crash test dummy mobs that insta die to any spell and give 10K RP per kill. And when the WL class hits rr10 is automatically gets deleted.

That way your happy, everyone else is happy. And the game would actually be better all round.
 

Void959

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This current nerf is overrated imo, a typically specced WL (not the idiots with 3 chambers) will lose 30% damage per UI chamber, and UI cast 33% slower, reducing their overall post-chamber DPS to about half its original. But power costs per UI have been reduced, and a WL should now be able to cast about 6 UI chambers before running OOP, thats before tarts and RP etc. So small groups and high DPS classes will have an easier time killing them, but slow DPSers will still go down because the WL will still put out nearly as much damage overall.
 

Elrandhir

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censi said:
you play the game for easy kills, end of. The WL class is boring to play, zero challenge and no one in game gives a rats arse about them or wants to go anywhere near them.

mythic should just restrict warlocks to like their own RVR area, with little crash test dummy mobs that insta die to any spell and give 10K RP per kill. And when the WL class hits rr10 is automatically gets deleted.

That way your happy, everyone else is happy. And the game would actually be better all round.

Well easy or not I don't agree to this, sounds like he plays the class because he thinks it's fun, and OPed or not thats the way you should play the game.

We all play different classes depending on what we prefer most, and don't think noone should think that everything they say is right just because the class someone else plays might be OPed.

Some might be happy about this change as now noone can say that they are I guess ;D
 

Elrandhir

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In my opinion when you have played many different chars, and are able to view things from many perspectives, not just thinking the way you play is the way to do so.

then you have started to take a step into becomming leet in my eyes.
 

ebenezer

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censi said:
there is a real contradiction about this "leet" thing. The newbs associate it with people thinking they are better players than others.

tbh I find like the good honorable guys are non leet, they are like happy go lucky hippies on the battlefield, will come and destealth and watch you fight and hug you afterwards etc these dudes that do this are always the ones that are top notch players (theoden, oli, warhead, druzic, kagato, xryo, bradlex etc.. etc..)...

on the other hand the "nice guys", "its ok to add its irvr", "normal/casual gamer," "its war meight" ,"WL is balanced" type dudes dont give you an inche and will leech every ounce of RP they can get out of the game even if it means ruining a fight for a realm mate. that for me is a leetist attitude, fuck anyones fun just superglue tape measure next to RP bar.
They will also pick the class which is most suited to achieving this.

sorry but its a fact.


not that i care or taking any sides in any direction. BUT..i gotta say your opinion is a bit of a contradiction too censi. Cause alot of the so called honorable top notch( and not talking about those names especially you mentioned) people out there(including urself from many other peoples opinion), did zerg or add when they were lower rrs as many of the lower rrs do now too. So were you and all those others all eletist pricks that now suddenly became noble and got all wise:p? No answer to that is when you get more ranks and better you stand ur own better against other oponents and also doesnt have same need to leech everywere since ur need for rps arent as great anymore. I know this is partly true as i see so many of these so called nobles that have grown momentarely memory laps all of a sudden and cant remember how they leeched and "whored" their way in much the same way as other lower rrs do now. I see those names appear here everywhere contradicting themself on the forums with no ounce of dignity saying stuff they should be ashamed of by trying to back up:p
So...hmm...i wouldnt try and lable people at all after a point of view about something in a game. It can get a bit rediculous^^
over and out...
 

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the question is how can it be fun to play a class that is so completely and utterly stupid? can think of only one reason, and thats because they dont like losing and therefor have to play the most ridiculess class to be able to win everything

if you hate losing so much, try thinking of the people on the other side that have absolutely no chance whatsoever of defending themself against a warlock.
 

Elrandhir

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Vodkafairy said:
the question is how can it be fun to play a class that is so completely and utterly stupid? can think of only one reason, and thats because they dont like losing and therefor have to play the most ridiculess class to be able to win everything

if you hate losing so much, try thinking of the people on the other side that have absolutely no chance whatsoever of defending themself against a warlock.

Whatever the reason if he thinks it fun then should he change class just because others think so, well I think not.

you play what you think it fun, and what you think is fun to play usually changes over time, well some can play same class from start to they stop playing I guess, but I would get bored doing that myself.

And the class is there to play, so not like anyone has the right to say that he/she shouldent play it if they want to.
 

Elrandhir

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Have to say that from the posts I have seen so far Arumos seems to be the most mature one here really.

Judgeing anyone because they like to play whatever class is rather childish imo.
 

Vodkafairy

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Elrandhir said:
Whatever the reason if he thinks it fun then should he change class just because others think so, well I think not.

feel free to think whatever, but that wasn't my point. he doesn't like his rm because against some classes he has no chance to win, so instead he spends 50+ hours for many weeks playing a warlock, doing exactely the same thing that frustrates him when he's on the receiving end. if griefing other people like that really means having fun, i think his sence of fun is fucked up.

yes, its bad game design, and yes, there will always be classes who have a distinct advantage against others, but warlocks are just so completely out of line its beyond any kind of comprehension. you know that, he knows that, everyone knows that. he and any warlock abuses it because they are sore losers, unless they never leave pve zones.
 

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Vodkafairy said:
feel free to think whatever, but that wasn't my point. he doesn't like his rm because against some classes he has no chance to win, so instead he spends 50+ hours for many weeks playing a warlock, doing exactely the same thing that frustrates him when he's on the receiving end. if griefing other people like that really means having fun, i think his sence of fun is fucked up.

yes, its bad game design, and yes, there will always be classes who have a distinct advantage against others, but warlocks are just so completely out of line its beyond any kind of comprehension. you know that, he knows that, everyone knows that. he and any warlock abuses it because they are sore losers, unless they never leave pve zones.

What can I say, I don't know him so I can't judge, and I try never to do so.
But I can only say do whetever makes you happy and haveing fun and that goes for all who plays.

I have been killed by WL's several times, and when it happens I might curse abit to myself, but then I just have another go (but on the other hand I think I have killed more WL's then any other mageclass when playing my Ranger).
 

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Funny that Mids are constantly whining "Oh noes it's a Midgard class and it will be nerfed to hell" probably people that never ever played another realm and actually faced this 'well' designed class.

It's like saying:
Well let's give Mids a class that has a 5000 delve PBAE with a 2 sec cast time and which goes strait through walls!
Next patch:
We have reduced the Mid PBAE from 5000 delve to 4000.
Responds: "Wtf that is uncalled for why nerf Midgard?!?!?!?!"
Next patch:
We have reduced the Mid PBAE from 4000 delve to 3000.
Responds: "Omfg Mythic wtf why Midgard nerf again?!?!?! why oh why always us it is not fair!!!!"
We have reduced the Mid PBAE from 3000 delve to 1000.
Responds: "Ok I will stop playing this class now it's totally useless, mythic always picks on us and eventhough our PBAE is still 5 times as strong as anyother PBAE in the game I will just stop playing because it is so unfair to us!"

Time to roll a new FotM, I'd suggest a SB, guess we will see alot of those next patch but hey atleast a SB with a total lack of skill is free RPs an unskilled Warlock will just give you a free trip back to rebuffing.
 

Tafaya Anathas

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Andrilyn said:
Funny that Mids are constantly whining "Oh noes it's a Midgard class and it will be nerfed to hell" probably people that never ever played another realm and actually faced this 'well' designed class.

It's like saying:
Well let's give Mids a class that has a 5000 delve PBAE with a 2 sec cast time and which goes strait through walls!
Next patch:
We have reduced the Mid PBAE from 5000 delve to 4000.
Responds: "Wtf that is uncalled for why nerf Midgard?!?!?!?!"
Next patch:
We have reduced the Mid PBAE from 4000 delve to 3000.
Responds: "Omfg Mythic wtf why Midgard nerf again?!?!?! why oh why always us it is not fair!!!!"
We have reduced the Mid PBAE from 3000 delve to 1000.
Responds: "Ok I will stop playing this class now it's totally useless, mythic always picks on us and eventhough our PBAE is still 5 times as strong as anyother PBAE in the game I will just stop playing because it is so unfair to us!"

Time to roll a new FotM, I'd suggest a SB, guess we will see alot of those next patch but hey atleast a SB with a total lack of skill is free RPs an unskilled Warlock will just give you a free trip back to rebuffing.

so fucking true

repped
 

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Elrandhir said:
Have to say that from the posts I have seen so far Arumos seems to be the most mature one here really.

Judgeing anyone because they like to play whatever class is rather childish imo.

completely agree with you.
 

atos

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You cant rly deny the damage of the class is gutted. All you got is the chambers that hits for full damage. They nerfed the time inbetween you can release them. The rest of the spells will just do 20% of the damage they do today (for another few hours). I dont see how they think warlock will be playable now? However, they should be able to make it work just like the normal casters if they lower the time it takes to put up chambers as well as the castspeed of curse spells.

Its prob not the solution to the class but its a step in the right direction.

I just see it as funny that they add "fixes" to a class which will barely affect the majority of the people who have warlock as their main. Cause they will be around rr7+ by now. And I say its fairly easy to 1-2 shot people with just chambers when you are that high.

However the damage for a fresh lvl 50 warlock will be quite laughable. =)
 

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censi said:
you play the game for easy kills, end of. The WL class is boring to play, zero challenge and no one in game gives a rats arse about them or wants to go anywhere near them.

mythic should just restrict warlocks to like their own RVR area, with little crash test dummy mobs that insta die to any spell and give 10K RP per kill. And when the WL class hits rr10 is automatically gets deleted.

That way your happy, everyone else is happy. And the game would actually be better all round.

Lol

say the ranger who when he get ganked by solo ppl don't go back and try again like VF for instance but bring a friend. Complain bout not getting solo fights and add himself and then complaining bout stealthzergs and moving with them himself too.

Yeah keep talking the talk and not walking the walk.
 

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Vodkafairy said:
the question is how can it be fun to play a class that is so completely and utterly stupid? can think of only one reason, and thats because they dont like losing and therefor have to play the most ridiculess class to be able to win everything

if you hate losing so much, try thinking of the people on the other side that have absolutely no chance whatsoever of defending themself against a warlock.

well i did play for winning aswell and i think we can assume that noone likes to lose. tho i've put some work in it, changed templates, even spec. shame is that warlocks don't need to change any of these to pwn the shit out of ppl. well i really hope today's nerf will kill the class, and noone will bother playing it anymore so i might bump in for a few nights again :eek:
 

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Bistrup666 said:
Lol

say the ranger who when he get ganked by solo ppl don't go back and try again like VF for instance but bring a friend. Complain bout not getting solo fights and add himself and then complaining bout stealthzergs and moving with them himself too.

Yeah keep talking the talk and not walking the walk.

We done some stealth grouping last days, thing that differs us from the normal zergers is that we dont stand on some bridge trying to kill unexpecting soloers instead we stand a little offside. There is Soooo many people that comes back over and over to try to kill us even tho they could just continue on their way.
 

Zahr

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Maybe that the new overpowered confidence from enemies of the cool WL class will get a big suprise when they start attacking...... fewer chambers = more dmg 1-3 sec 2500++ hp ftw, more leaching more hiding in and near towers/castles/bridges, we shall see :)

And there will be more WL duo/trio in the future.........i guess :)
 

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