Crafting woe since housing
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I don't find that it has killed my spellcrafting, but the tailoring and weaponcrafting have indeed suffered now that cheap surplus goods are more difficult to get rid of. Diogel crowds were quite useful and I even enjoyed the adverts up to a point.
The other crafting/housing problem is the number of us experiencing dramatic increases in the number of tries necessary to hit masterpieces and even sometimes 99%.
232 tries on an arcanium long dirk nearly broke me.
The other crafting/housing problem is the number of us experiencing dramatic increases in the number of tries necessary to hit masterpieces and even sometimes 99%.
232 tries on an arcanium long dirk nearly broke me.
Seline
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When crafting in the housing zone, i've noticed that sometimes I get a huge streak of luck, made 3 or 4 MP gems in a row followed by a couple of 99% gems, but also noticed some bad luck too, took 31 tries to get a 99% gem, next few took 2x tries each 
Then went to Gothwaite to craft, was about average. Could have just been a coincidence <Shrugs>
Then went to Gothwaite to craft, was about average. Could have just been a coincidence <Shrugs>
Thrunge
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Shortlegs said:Oh, that must have hurt
Also having trouble selling stuff after foundations. We need that search engine up and working. But next patch is due when??
Its in patch 1.64
/edit woops, believe GOA are still aiming for Jan arent they...?
Linnet
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I've had a huge increase in people paging me with tailoring orders when I'm actually logged in with my crafter and have /setwho trade on (I don't have a house so this suits me fine.) I didn't believe Sru at first when he commented on this to me, but it is absolutely what I have found.
Part of it is because a lot of people are still confused by the housing zone and don't have the time and energy to shop around for cheap 99%s, it's easier to page a (charming, helpful, etc.) tailor who will come and deliver it to you at mach 5, even if you end up paying more. Once the search function is in, I imagine pretty much everyone will use that instead. We'll see, I guess.
With MPs, I've made about 6 or 7 recently and I'd say the random number generator is still dead on 2%
Part of it is because a lot of people are still confused by the housing zone and don't have the time and energy to shop around for cheap 99%s, it's easier to page a (charming, helpful, etc.) tailor who will come and deliver it to you at mach 5, even if you end up paying more. Once the search function is in, I imagine pretty much everyone will use that instead. We'll see, I guess.
With MPs, I've made about 6 or 7 recently and I'd say the random number generator is still dead on 2%
Lam
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I advertised my house a little in our guild and with a post in the trading section on BW and I can't complain about business myself.
Been getting a lot of pm's from people asking to make cloth/leather.
There doesn't seem to be a market for studded it seems so I'm no longer bothering with trying for mp studded pieces.
Been getting a lot of pm's from people asking to make cloth/leather.
There doesn't seem to be a market for studded it seems so I'm no longer bothering with trying for mp studded pieces.
Filenotfound
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im havin really bad bad luck craftin inside my house im putin it down to just luck at mo but hearin other ppl say the MP re-trys are takin longer is makin me wonder ;/
old.windforce
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crafters in the more remote areas of the housing zone have a hard time now
i think my CM made me over 50 plat allready. with enough patience you sell almost everyting
i think my CM made me over 50 plat allready. with enough patience you sell almost everyting
Filenotfound
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123 trys for MP boots
88 Trys for MP legs
74 TRYS SO FAR for MP plate turso((
im givin up craftin after this order
88 Trys for MP legs
74 TRYS SO FAR for MP plate turso
((im givin up craftin after this order
old.windforce
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always do mp orders on a retry base or you will seriously feck yourself 
Have sold several plats of stock armour, weps now from our CM, usually sell something every other day, it's better than having all those 99s sat in the vault
I also find it fun running round the various villages seeing who does what, and who sells what.
I now know the fastest way to Tesla's house for them ablatives
Quite a few of us now have a list of 10-20 CMs that we check daily for the items we usually need or want.
The listmerchant feature will make this much quicker and easier, the only downside I see is prices being driven down still further.
I've definately experienced more pain in making 99s and MPs when in housing, whether that's just down to my bad faction with the God of Crafting, I dunno.
#1745 in Birkwith, Erikstaad for Chain, Studded and Weapons btw
Cheers
Azo
I also find it fun running round the various villages seeing who does what, and who sells what.
I now know the fastest way to Tesla's house for them ablatives
Quite a few of us now have a list of 10-20 CMs that we check daily for the items we usually need or want.
The listmerchant feature will make this much quicker and easier, the only downside I see is prices being driven down still further.
I've definately experienced more pain in making 99s and MPs when in housing, whether that's just down to my bad faction with the God of Crafting, I dunno.
#1745 in Birkwith, Erikstaad for Chain, Studded and Weapons btw
Cheers
Azo
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Well...
I needed 2 chain armour parts for my Cleric, 99% quality AF102. At first I decided to go to some well known places, but didn't have much luck. However today I decided to take the time to go to every merchant in all 3 zones to see the cheapest chain I could find.
For the chain boots I managed to get them for just 130g, which is about the cost of 1 retry for the armourcrafter with absolutely no profit %'s added on. I managed to find some chain gloves for 110g which is about 6g over the cost of making them for 1 attempt. On average I'd say the gloves/boots were selling for about 200g, with some 150g's about.
As for the chain hauberk I managed to get one for 600g. Cost for 1 attempt is about 515g, with 2 attempts costing about 637g. All other hauberks were priced above 1p, usually within the 1p-1.2p range. Some ripoff GoP house was selling one for 1.8p.
I got my bargains.
However!
There are far too many tailors, fletchers and weaponcrafters by the looks of things. Far too many cloth/leather parts, especially considering most of Albions strongest/popular characters wear plate/chain. If you're one of these crafters then you'll probably have to face facts - you aren't going to get much business unless you drop your prices to something very low.
If you want business then start an armourcrafter. I know its not the easiest of trades however the amount of chain/plate is lower compared to cloth/leather. Theres possibly more profit to make out of it.
I needed 2 chain armour parts for my Cleric, 99% quality AF102. At first I decided to go to some well known places, but didn't have much luck. However today I decided to take the time to go to every merchant in all 3 zones to see the cheapest chain I could find.
For the chain boots I managed to get them for just 130g, which is about the cost of 1 retry for the armourcrafter with absolutely no profit %'s added on. I managed to find some chain gloves for 110g which is about 6g over the cost of making them for 1 attempt. On average I'd say the gloves/boots were selling for about 200g, with some 150g's about.
As for the chain hauberk I managed to get one for 600g. Cost for 1 attempt is about 515g, with 2 attempts costing about 637g. All other hauberks were priced above 1p, usually within the 1p-1.2p range. Some ripoff GoP house was selling one for 1.8p.
I got my bargains.
However!
There are far too many tailors, fletchers and weaponcrafters by the looks of things. Far too many cloth/leather parts, especially considering most of Albions strongest/popular characters wear plate/chain. If you're one of these crafters then you'll probably have to face facts - you aren't going to get much business unless you drop your prices to something very low.
If you want business then start an armourcrafter. I know its not the easiest of trades however the amount of chain/plate is lower compared to cloth/leather. Theres possibly more profit to make out of it.
Most of our crafters seem to be getting good MP hit rates in our house...one did a full MP Studded AF102 for 3.3p... me ? I had 114 tries just to make the damned sleeves...
The jury is still out on the RNG in the housing zone !
Perhaps I am not offering the right sacrificial offerings to the relevant crafting gods.
Cheers
Azo
The jury is still out on the RNG in the housing zone !
Perhaps I am not offering the right sacrificial offerings to the relevant crafting gods.
Cheers
Azo