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There will be NO herd immumity from vaccination in Europe until Q3 or Q4 next year.... EVen those who want vaccination will not be offered it until after the summer if they are young and / or fit and healthy
 

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There will be NO herd immumity from vaccination in Europe until Q3 or Q4 next year.... EVen those who want vaccination will not be offered it until after the summer if they are young and / or fit and healthy
Yep.

Still. Massively rapid development, massively rapid rollout. It's pretty damn cool that we can mobilise so quickly - it shows just what we can achieve with teamwork. :)
 

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It's his miserable attempt at hiding where the article has come from. So you need to click it first before dismissing it.
Yet another troll tactic.
Actually that's what google AMP does so I don't think Job is being deliberate, just sharing links on a mobile device.
 

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press searching for emotionally charged stories. When it should be you were trying to travel in a pandemic. If you managed it, it would be luck. And really you shouldnt be travelling internationally anyway. Thats how it spread to begin with

saw julie hartley-brewer tweeting her luck at being on a plane somewhere just before the lock down. Ppl have no common sense and just in their own little selfish bubbles.
 

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I said this in the summer and I’ll say it again now - those travelling for the sake of vacation get everything they deserve....
 

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press searching for emotionally charged stories.
Whilst I agree - these stories are still true.

We should be reporting on what people have had to lose in an effort to fight covid. We absolutely should be keeping sight on those things.

That woman who lost her husband, and wants to go see her daughter who also lost hers. That's horrible that she can't go to see them. And there are thousands of cases like that.

A mate of mine is fucked off that he can't go skiing. That's very different from the "emotionally charged" stories you're moaning about. The reason they're "emotionally charged" is because they're fucking horrible - and real.
 

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Anyone that has been on holiday in the last 9 months.

No vaccine.

Anyone that has visited Oxford street over the last month

No vaccine.

Anyone that has been to a BBQ party (because it's outside lol)

No vaccine.
 

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Expand it to people that pick shit up to read ingreadients etc in supermarkets.

No vaccine
 

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Bad 9 months to be fair.

Stupid is getting boring. I am so sick and tired of stupid people making this shit worse, it's tiring.
 

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I'm having a bit of a problem when people say it's the stupid people.
Who are they exactly? The people spreading it that dont know they have it?
The 2 million+ that have caught it?
Who?
There has been a massive outbreak in our local hospital with it popping up in wards where it shouldn't be even close, does that mean the NHS staff are a bit dim too?
 

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Mostly the people that climb over each other in supermarkets, or don't bother washing their hands, or think Bill Gates made it all up, those sorts of people.

You know, retards. There is zero point giving them the vaccine.

You don't need to know you have it, that is the entire point. Everyone should assume they have it and every other dickhead has it. Keep contact to a minimum.

I'm alright Jack doesn't work, I'm afraid.
 

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If everyone assumes everyone else has it, what your saying is anyone that catches it or even dies from it is and idiot and deserves it.
Nice.
 

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Err, no not really, no.

Please quote where I said anything like that.
 

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But you have to catch it to spread it, ergo if you've caught it your an idiot.
 

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No, again. I think it might be a learn to read issue here.

What I actually said, quite explicitly, was that if you refuse point blank to take precautions, you're a fucking spaz and quite frankly, deserve to get it.

Others would call it Darwinism.
 

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But clearly people are not taking precautions, If they were they wouldn't be catching it.
 

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Yes, well done, you've caught up.

You can't eliminate risk altogether but that risk would be minimised if 50% of the population weren't retarded. Unfortunately those mentally redundant people also help spread the virus with people that do take every possible precaution, because they don't think it affects them. As a species, if they were eliminated then it would be much safer for the rest of us.
 

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But clearly people are not taking precautions, If they were they wouldn't be catching it.

No actually you still can, precautions just lower the chances you will and the effect of more people not taking precautions is cumulative.
 

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Anyone that has been on holiday in the last 9 months.

No vaccine.

Anyone that has visited Oxford street over the last month

No vaccine.

Anyone that has been to a BBQ party (because it's outside lol)

No vaccine.
Not done any of them in 9 months. Lol
 

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US Mayo clinic was working on this back on Oct and now its revealed the government has paid for two feasibility apps to give you a QR code to prove in real time you are covid negative.



View: https://mobile.twitter.com/LutherBurgsvik/status/1340542705303228416


They claim its only exploratory, which I believe...bit I also believe it has every chance of being implemented.
 

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US Mayo clinic was working on this back on Oct and now its revealed the government has paid for two feasibility apps to give you a QR code to prove in real time you are covid negative.



View: https://mobile.twitter.com/LutherBurgsvik/status/1340542705303228416


They claim its only exploratory, which I believe...bit I also believe it has every chance of being implemented.


Or some ministers neighbor, with a company that has zero previous experience building this kind of thing, will get a billion pound contract, after a few months it gets scrapped and the next neighbor in line will get some "money spunked up the wall" to quote BoJo himself
 

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Yup, like all those media firms that suddenly got multi-million pound PPE deals, PPE that mostly went in the bin because it was not up to the job.
 

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Wishful thinking. He'll have contracted that out to India. Fuck our government.

Anyway...


...the current system was “unlikely” to contain the spread of the virus... “We need to reset our strategy and move rapidly to a zero Covid strategy of the kind that many have been proposing. This will involve stricter but more rational social distancing rules across the country, and finally doing what we should have done from the start – to build the kind of test, travel, isolate and support programmes they have in countries in the far east.
 

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9 months in and we still aren't doing what we should have been doing from day 1

The appetite for following the rules is getting smaller by the day, largely understandably so as nearly every week Bojo and chums come out and waffle on about some new rules that will help us turn the corner, but ultimately fail.

First lockdown, didn't go far enough, mismanaged, track and trace joke
Second lockdown, not really a lock down anyway, lifted too early
Third lockdown, not really a lock down anyway, free-for-all xmas
Fourth lockdown in the new year, way too little, way too late. Close the fucking schools!

Ultimately the blame can be laid at the doors of all politicians;

The Tories for being utterly useless and ineffective, preferring to hand out contracts like sweets to their mates rather than doing something useful, ordering cheap crap PPE that is unsuitable, laughable track and trace system, that still doesn't work.
The Scots for using it as a points scoring exercise and ultimately parroting the Tory strategy but with an ever so small change to something so they can say they are doing it differently.
Labour for being a weak opposition

All this shit so they can say "Protect the NHS" well, numbers are still rising at an alarming rate and hospitals are running out of beds, so even that aspect has completely failed. Oh and what was that cunt Hancock doing going on TV pretending to cry but actually giggling like the silly little wanker he is.

Bojo and his entire cabinet need to do the honourable thing and resign.
 

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I'd go a little further and have every member of parliment charged with treason, rather than letting them resign and go to work on the dinner speech circuit.
 

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I'd go a little further and have every member of parliment charged with treason, rather than letting them resign and go to work on the dinner speech circuit.

PURGE?

Love a good purge.
 

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The first thing they need to do is fully explain that masks are of practically zero benefit and as the Who correctly advised for decades until caving in to political pressure, they just cause bad habits.
People presume its OK to congregate..get in cars..sit on public transport because the mask is somehow magically protecting them...it isnt, the virus passes through the mask with ease and fills the space.

Heres a study on surgical masks in surgery.
 

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