Politics Coronavirus

[Raven]

Hang on though, should we be allowed to find that funny or not?

 

[Raven]

Shitty government website has rather unsurprisingly crashed after they announced lockdown areas.

I'm just hoping I get out of having to drive down to the inlaws on Xmas day!

 

[Job]

Hang on though, should we be allowed to find that funny or not?

Well it is completely fake...whats it trying to be?

 

[Job]

Wayyy Tier 2.

 

[Moriath]

Tier 1. Go Cornwall.

basically no one can travel any where to visit ppl in the uk.

 

[Scouse]

I'm just hoping I get out of having to drive down to the inlaws on Xmas day!

We've already told them that we're not coming.

YAY!

 

[Bodhi]

We were Tier 2 before lockdown, now in Tier 3.

That worked well then.

 

[Moriath]

We've already told them that we're not coming.

YAY!

Same. Staying home for xmas. Kinda nice cause first xmas hols havent had to drive since i left home

 

[Job]

AstraZeneca’s best COVID vaccine result was a fluke. Experts have questions

The “how?” and “why?” are open questions—along with “what now?”…

arstechnica.com

 

[Raven]

Have you actually read it...?

Silly question, I realise.

 

[Job]

Yes, but it does turn into 'never gonna give you up' halfway through.

 

[Moriath]

Everyones trying to deal with covid

Nicola Sturgeon wants indyref2 'early in next parliament'

Scotland's first minister says a referendum should be held "in the earlier part" of the next Scottish Parliament.

www.bbc.co.uk

except her. I saw a program where they think many who voted leave last time have changed their minds. I guess theres some on both sides though

 

[Raven]

She couldn't give the smallest shit about anything but FREEEEDERRRRM at any cost.

At this point, now that Scotland aren't in the EU either, leaving the UK would be suicide, but with a St Andrew flag draped over the coffin.

She needs to stfu for 5-10 years.

Grotty nationalist.

 

[Aoami]

I mean, the SNP win a vast majority of seats in Scotland every election, based on a ticket that doesn't consist of much more than "we are going to make Scotland independent", not sure why it's a massive shock to anyone when she bangs on about indyref2.

 

[Scouse]

Fact is, she's been clear and up front about this since day one.

It's the aim of the party - I don't know why people care?

 

[Job]

The graphic on ITV news tonight said the 57K covid deaths is for deaths for any reason up 28 days after a positive test result.
Is that the official line?
I cant be arsed searching on my phone.

 

[caLLous]

Everyones trying to deal with covid

Nicola Sturgeon wants indyref2 'early in next parliament'

Scotland's first minister says a referendum should be held "in the earlier part" of the next Scottish Parliament.

www.bbc.co.uk

except her. I saw a program where they think many who voted leave last time have changed their minds. I guess theres some on both sides though

Brexit.

 

[Moriath]

Brexit.

What about it? We had a vote and a choice was made. They had a vote and the choice was made.

 

[caLLous]

What about it? We had a vote and a choice was made. They had a vote and the choice was made.

You're criticising Sturgeon for something which you think could wait while "everyone's trying to deal with COVID" but on the other hand, the UK is about to barrel into something that Johnson and co could very easily have delayed.

As for "they had a vote and the choice was made"... you don't think Brexit changed the landscape enough to justify revisiting devolution? By your logic, the UK voted to be a member of the EU in 1972 so they made their choice...

 

[Deebs]

You're criticising Sturgeon for something which you think could wait while "everyone's trying to deal with COVID" but on the other hand, the UK is about to barrel into something that Johnson and co could very easily have delayed.

As for "they had a vote and the choice was made"... you don't think Brexit changed the landscape enough to justify revisiting devolution? By your logic, the UK voted to be a member of the EU in 1972 so they made their choice...

Um in 1972 we voted to join the ECC not the EU.

 

[Ormorof]

Wrong thread guys

 

[Bodhi]

Everyones trying to deal with covid

Nicola Sturgeon wants indyref2 'early in next parliament'

Scotland's first minister says a referendum should be held "in the earlier part" of the next Scottish Parliament.

www.bbc.co.uk

except her. I saw a program where they think many who voted leave last time have changed their minds. I guess theres some on both sides though

It's a squirrel / dead cat to distract the faithful from

a) Her shocking handling of the pandemic (yes, worse than Boris) - Subscribe to read | Financial Times

b) The incoming shitshow between her and Alex Salmond - Nicola Sturgeon accused of 'cynical obfuscation' and 'sheer hypocrisy' over Alex Salmond inquiry

 

[Moriath]

It's a squirrel / dead cat to distract the faithful from

a) Her shocking handling of the pandemic (yes, worse than Boris) - Subscribe to read | Financial Times

b) The incoming shitshow between her and Alex Salmond - Nicola Sturgeon accused of 'cynical obfuscation' and 'sheer hypocrisy' over Alex Salmond inquiry

Scottish numbers are still going up aren’t they.

 

[Bodhi]

Scottish numbers are still going up aren’t they.

Sort of flat-lining from what I can tell on the official website:

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

Plummeting in England however:

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

 

[Raven]

Trouble is, she can do no wrong with the nationalists.

She could could murder a puppy live on TV and it wouldn't matter, so long as she banged on about indi ref 2 while doing it.

 

[Scouse]

Funny that @Bodhi is constantly having a pop at Jimmy Kranky but reserves criticism for Johnson for the same thing, instead blaming PHE.

 

[Job]

This medical talking head drones a bit , but he gives a very exact and study backed detailed explanation of what it takes to be healthy and how it relates to your chances against covid.

View: https://youtu.be/klwwN6KDBDc

 

[Scouse]

Paused the video - the waist circumference "normal" they've considered at 41.3 inches for men is hella huge. If you're a mail adult and have a waist over 36" you are bigger than you should be.

Looks like they've defined normal as "average" American - and since the average American is overweight or obese that's not really "normal" in a healthy sense.

But really, it's a very good (if strangely delivered) message. Good on him.

Interesting to see that only 12% of yanks are metabolically healthy - but that 70% of those who keep to a healthy BMI are. It shows that, for most, the efforts involved in sticking to a healthy BMI have payoffs in other areas of metabolic health. (most people who watch their weight will eat better and exercise - so blood pressure, triglycerides, cholesterol etc are positively affected).

 

[Job]

When Dr Roger Hodkinson rang in to a Canadian council covid meeting to declare the whole thing an over reaction of epic levels, the entire system went into overdive to rudicule him, all the usual 'fact checkers' were put on the front page with carefully constructed replies to myddy the waters.
No one seems to know if it was realkly him..or at least they keep suggesting that.
Anyway the actual guy does have some pretty impressive credentials though they are challenging one of them as a way to dismiss his entire point.
Its here anyway, goes a bit too far, but as an ceo of a viral testing company his assertion that a pos covid result is not a clinical diagnosis is quite telling.
He does have something to do with that multi academic announcement last month against lockdown.


View: https://streamable.com/4ouyff

 

[Raven]

Paused the video - the waist circumference "normal" they've considered at 41.3 inches for men is hella huge. If you're a mail adult and have a waist over 36" you are bigger than you should be.

Looks like they've defined normal as "average" American - and since the average American is overweight or obese that's not really "normal" in a healthy sense.

But really, it's a very good (if strangely delivered) message. Good on him.

Interesting to see that only 12% of yanks are metabolically healthy - but that 70% of those who keep to a healthy BMI are. It shows that, for most, the efforts involved in sticking to a healthy BMI have payoffs in other areas of metabolic health. (most people who watch their weight will eat better and exercise - so blood pressure, triglycerides, cholesterol etc are positively affected).

Meh, I'm 38 waist 45+inch chest and 6.2, I used to be 42 bordering 44 waist 5 years ago. People come in all shapes and sizes