When things are this bad you just roll the dice. ANY port in a storm.Don't disagree, just struggling to see any other options out there tbh.
Wouldn't go as far as a shitshow, as we have got a lot right over the last 18 months - Vaccine Rollout, Freedom Day, resisting more restrictions this Christmas, increasing testing capacity amongst others. There's been plenty of bad as well - abandoning the original pandemic plan and going for lockdown instead, all the parties and confusing messaging, so once we're fully out the other side I'd say he should stand down and let someone else handle the incoming cost of living crisis.When things are this bad you just roll the dice. ANY port in a storm.
Maybe they won't be world-beating - but they literally can't do any worse, and they argue (correctly) that they need to be judged in the job.
Boris has been judged in the job. He's a fucking shitshow.
Mate of mine is a massive stoner. Daily use.
Sod the booster, let's all just hit the bong instead
Sorry to hear about your friend, however I'm not sure if you noticed that it was a joke?Mate of mine is a massive stoner. Daily use.
Was really really ill with covid. His O/H was dressed and had the car ready to take him to hospital, kids with her mum. He woke up, felt a little bit better so they hung fire. But it was touch and go.
I'd still get the booster.
Edit: And the abstract of the actual publication starts with the words " As a complement to vaccines ... "
I'd like to see the evidence of that. The vast majority of people in hospital are the unvaccinated. Has been very clear and stable for a long time on that (and I've provided the evidence to prove it previously. If it's changed, I'd very much like to see the new evidence).considering the vaccines aren't helping keep everyone out of hospital, even with the boosters at this stage.
Of course, you could do what you did last time, and say "what about today/December"? But A) you have no evidence for today so I'd be interested how you get to your very controversial assertion above, and B) you used that argument last time - so I've blown your old argument out of the water as I've provided the additional...ONS said:Over the whole period (1 January to 31 October 2021), the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving COVID-19 was 96% lower in people who had received a second dose at least 21 days ago compared with unvaccinated people
Latest numbers from the UKHSA, courtesy of the former head of Health Stats for the ONS:I'd like to see the evidence of that. The vast majority of people in hospital are the unvaccinated. Has been very clear and stable for a long time on that (and I've provided the evidence to prove it previously. If it's changed, I'd very much like to see the new evidence).
For deaths? Other than elderly with severe co-morbidities, practically zero vaccinated people.
Probably worth reading my post properly before you start furiously frothing and typing a reply - I said they weren't keeping everyone out of hospital, so more treatment options for those they didn't help sounds like a good thing - no?You said the vaccines aren't helping keep people out of hospital - if it's 41% unvaccinated admittance then it shows that you're VASTLY more likely to be admitted in your unvaccinated (because of relative numbers). So your own facts contravene your own argument.
And as far as deaths go - which is the important thing - see the ONS above.
Bit of a difference between suggesting they aren't worth it, and pointing out they aren't quite perfect, so having some more treatment options isn't a bad thing.Not frothing at all. Gently pushing back at your general "boosters/vaccines aren't worth it" crap - which has been wrong since day 1.
Death is the important stat. The vast majority of people dying are unvaccinated. If you're bothered about "everyone" being kept out of hospital then you're a fantastist - but what is clear that, once again, the best way to keep people out of hospitals is getting the vaccine. By far.
The impact of the unvaccinated on continued lockdowns and NHS strain is leading some countries to charge extra tax for their idiocy. Now I don't agree with that at all - but they are idiots who are having an undue burden on the rest of society.
If the unvaccinated had all had their vaccines the NHS would be fine, and we wouldn't really be talking about Covid any more. Now it's literally ALL THEIR FAULT.
No frothing. Dispassionate assessment of the data shows that to be the case. If the unvaccinated were vaccinated then the NHS would be fine, we'd have zero restrictions and all the suffering businesses would be on BAU.
I don't understand the resistance to have one form of medical intervention but willingness to explore other avenues of medical intervention?Bit of a difference between suggesting they aren't worth it, and pointing out they aren't quite perfect, so having some more treatment options isn't a bad thing.
But then, if you can't have a debate without misrepresenting the other person's position, there probably isn't too much point, so I'll just say
I'm not really misrepresenting your position though am I? Over the past two years you've been down on lockdowns, dismissive of the benefits of vaccines, dismissive of their efficacy, you've overstated the mental health effects on suicide rates, you've been against pragmatic mask wearing, you've taken every opportunity to post something that may be like the above - a poor choice of language that can be picked at but in general the gist is correct (if you're unvaccinated you're the vast majority of the problem).But then, if you can't have a debate without misrepresenting the other person's position, there probably isn't too much point, so I'll just say