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Bodhi said:
I think the eternal moan about funding the NHS is entirely irrelevant in this case:

1) NHS Finding has been going up in real terms year on year.
2) In order to build into the NHS capacity to deal with what we are currently facing (a once a century pandemic), we would have to have all that extra capacity being built in place permanently, so we would be funding god know how many extra hospitals and beds in order for them to sit empty. Not really going to fly.
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1 Did not know that

So again MSM and the hysterical demanding that the sun turns Sky Blue?

Please quote source.
 
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DaGaffer said:
Really? I don't share your confidence in the slightest.
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Luckily for you you don't rely on the NHS. I believe that that the Public will realise how important the NHS is.
 
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They only need to test the nhs workers and those in hospital. Anything more than that is throwing resources that could be used better for other things at it.

they need to do more nhs workers than they are today. A lot more and not just oncebecause if you are clear today you might get it tomorrow.

everyone else can be covered with antibody testing later.
 
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Bodhi said:
I think the eternal moan about funding the NHS is entirely irrelevant in this case:

1) NHS Finding has been going up in real terms year on year.
2) In order to build into the NHS capacity to deal with what we are currently facing (a once a century pandemic), we would have to have all that extra capacity being built in place permanently, so we would be funding god know how many extra hospitals and beds in order for them to sit empty. Not really going to fly.
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1. NHS funding has not only not kept up with population growth overall, it hasn't kept up with an ageing population. Just because the budget has gone up does mean its gone up anything like enough.

2. You can mothball capabilities for certain contingencies and there will undoubtedly be a new industry that springs up around rapid response strategies; the economic fallout from this is going to be so vast that it will be worth the investment to mitigate against future shocks.
 
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Deebs said:
Luckily for you you don't rely on the NHS. I believe that that the Public will realise how important the NHS is.
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The HSE over here is even more poorly funded than the NHS, but I actually have some hope over here; the pace of change and improvement in the HSE has not just been about money, its been about poor allocation of the resources available and constant politically-influenced delays. Events of the last few weeks have actually shown a lot of HSE inaction has been bullshit and politicians won't be able to use some of their historical excuses in the Post Covid-19 world.

Of course the economy will be utterly fucked for a while but I'm hoping we can bounce back quickly because unlike 2008 this isn't a structural problem with the economy.
 
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Scouse said:
Magic money tree.

The tree Corbyn wanted to plant and was ridiculed for.
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Yeah using the current circumstances to justify Corbynomics really isn't the slam dunk argument you think it is.
 
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Well i mean its obvious that the money market is completely fictitious. With every country owing or going to owe huge amounts of money against national product. Who is buying these debts and basically bankrupting the world ?

other countries or huge internationals.

We will get to a point of such stupidness that there will be a huge correction and we will all go back to the stone age ;)

if everyone stopped believing it would all crumble.
 
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Some more interesting news on isolation around the world...

In Panama men and women are allowed out on different days
Men - Mon Wed Fri
Women - Tues Thurs and Sat
Sunday all stay home.
I wonder where this leaves those who confuse gender and sex oO do they go out on their biologically assigned day or risk being fined by protesting and go out on their chosen gender day....

In the Phillapines the order has been given to shoot to kill for those not following isolation rules (brought about by increased riots and protesting due to food & essential shortages)
 
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Yoni said:
In Panama men and women are allowed out on different days
Men - Mon Wed Fri
Women - Tues Thurs and Sat
Sunday all stay home.
I wonder where this leaves those who confuse gender and sex oO do they go out on their biologically assigned day or risk being fined by protesting and go out on their chosen gender day....
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Interesting that that's your first thought rather than "WTF sex segregation?? Fucking catholics!!" :)
 
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no sure i understand your point is...
My first thought, not that you could possible know it, as I would have killed myself years ago if I had someone of liverpuddlian origin in my head :p poking about, was - do they have a point as this disese appears to be more lethal to men than women. My second thought was maybe they have done it as they have seen an an increase in assault..... Thoughts after that degraded dramatically..
 
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Yoni said:
no sure i understand your point is...
My first thought, not that you could possible know it, as I would have killed myself years ago if I had someone of liverpuddlian origin in my head :p poking about, was - do they have a point as this disese appears to be more lethal to men than women. My second thought was maybe they have done it as they have seen an an increase in assault..... Thoughts after that degraded dramatically..
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I wonder if it's intermediately lethal to non-binary people :)
 
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I went to our Big Tesco yesterday to get a few things, and it was remarkable how well everyone was keeping to the 2 metres - it was almost balletic the way people were moving round each other at the end of the aisles.
 
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