Cleric Spec AFbuff = free Perma Avoid Pain 2

Solid · Aug 23, 2003

Yup

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=55191655&replies=37

Tested, Proven, Confirmed

Cleric Bot spec AF buff = Avoid Pain 2 + harder to be hit via increased AF.

Its about 14% melee damage reduction.

Falcon · Aug 23, 2003

How does 14% = the 20% that AP2 is?

succi · Aug 23, 2003

With Mota4 , its very close to AP2

old.Emma · Aug 23, 2003

Not quiet AP2 but more like AP1.5 rougly the equivelant of a NS spending 13-19 RA points all for free.

What does mid get exactly to counter that ?

Ahh right end regen that is range limited to only 1500 units basicly bugger all.

imho spec AF and druid haste should be range limited just like end regen is.

Falcon · Aug 23, 2003

Mid gets you to bs and whine everyone to death.

Talen · Aug 23, 2003

Dont bring this into a classic SB/INF/NS whine thread... Anyway I'm not really that impressed when people post logs of 15-20 blows, though I will make some testing on my own using that "uber" spec afbuff to check on it closer ~~

old.mattshanes · Aug 23, 2003

Originally posted by Falcon
Mid gets you to bs and whine everyone to death.

Hahahaha

Xest one of the best quote's ever!:great:

Garaen · Aug 23, 2003

Originally posted by old.Emma
Not quiet AP2 but more like AP1.5 rougly the equivelant of a NS spending 13-19 RA points all for free.

What does mid get exactly to counter that ?

Ahh right end regen that is range limited to only 1500 units basicly bugger all.

imho spec AF and druid haste should be range limited just like end regen is.

Zzzzz Whining again.

tildson · Aug 24, 2003

Nerf Clerics !!!

Really, who cares? Only noticeable is on casters with spec AF imo.

Pin · Aug 24, 2003

75 value AF charges. you all have access to them.

old.m0000 · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by old.Emma
Not quiet AP2 but more like AP1.5 rougly the equivelant of a NS spending 13-19 RA points all for free.

What does mid get exactly to counter that ?

Ahh right end regen that is range limited to only 1500 units basicly bugger all.

imho spec AF and druid haste should be range limited just like end regen is.

all buffs should be range limited, say 6000 range?

thats enuff for legit grps, and for xping.

even though it means significant monetary reduction for mythic and goa, i do think they'll consider it sometime - simply because as other games come out people are going to ask themselves, why do i have to pay for 2 accounts just to remain competative? - oh look i dont have to do that in xxxmmorpg.

old.LandShark · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by Pin
75 value AF charges. you all have access to them.

Also, hi there, meet AP3, IP, 770 AF, evade2, 310dex, and pulsing health buffers.
/em loses to some random assassin
/em sighs

Lanceloc · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by old.Emma
What does mid get exactly to counter that ?

Why you get insta stun of course! The insta-win button you shouldnt have....

Danya · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by old.Emma
Not quiet AP2 but more like AP1.5 rougly the equivelant of a NS spending 13-19 RA points all for free.

What does mid get exactly to counter that ?

Celerity.

NEXT

klavrynd · Aug 24, 2003

free ap2 for celerity (which has 0.000004 range and as much duration)

alb the defencive realm, hib the magic realm, mid the 1s aestun realm

hellraisermk2 · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by Lanceloc
Why you get insta stun of course! The insta-win button you shouldnt have....

Yup, all 2- 3 seconds of it once every 30 minutes and on a 150 radius for well over 90% of healers. Ubar!111

Arnor · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by Danyan
Celerity.

NEXT

yeah, if thats not comparable, what is?

Shike · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by old.Emma
Not quiet AP2 but more like AP1.5 rougly the equivelant of a NS spending 13-19 RA points all for free.

What does mid get exactly to counter that ?

Ahh right end regen that is range limited to only 1500 units basicly bugger all.

imho spec AF and druid haste should be range limited just like end regen is.

hmm, yea give savages to hibb imo and i dont give a flyin feck about haste or endregen... oh wait, they have their own version of it....

doesnt sounds so bad does it? For Hib i mean..

acei · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by old.Emma
Not quiet AP2 but more like AP1.5 rougly the equivelant of a NS spending 13-19 RA points all for free.

What does mid get exactly to counter that ?

Ahh right end regen that is range limited to only 1500 units basicly bugger all.

imho spec AF and druid haste should be range limited just like end regen is.

Tanks that can 2-3shot people even with this newly found AP1.5? That's what mids get!

granny · Aug 24, 2003

Make spec AF a timed buff like mid end regen. Alb is desperately short of clerics as it is, I would estimate over 50% of the cleric population are buffbots. If more buffs were timer based maybe it'd encourage people to get real clerics more.

succi · Aug 24, 2003

Realms are balenced , quit fucking whining.

Eliz · Aug 24, 2003

Originally posted by Danyan
Celerity.

NEXT

Hahaha...good one.

Aussie- · Aug 24, 2003

klav is without a doubt the jester of daoc/eu

Solid · Aug 24, 2003

sorry this game is highly governed on the abilities of your buffbot these days, whether we like it or not.

Cleric >> Druid >> Shaman in that sense.

Means its yet another proof that solo buffbotting infiltrators need a nerf, directly and indirectly (via there bots).

Considering Alb has the best armours in the game as well, adding a spec AF buff that DOES go over cap, and DOES add 15+% damage reduction, I especially think Healers need an equivalent in their Aug line.

faderullan · Aug 24, 2003

You are not kiding when you are saying healer need better buffs?

Solid · Aug 24, 2003

go check their aug line and rethink your reply Fadeh

faderullan · Aug 24, 2003

Go look at how healers perform in rvr solid and rethink your post

living · Aug 24, 2003

Im sure he meant in the sense of solo'ing. Also i culdent agree more with the 6000range buff limit. Would work perfectly cuz u can then kill their buffbot if they bring it with them.

Solid · Aug 24, 2003

i meant in the sense of offfering Aug spec healers (yes the ones who will therefore relinquish their Mezz or Healing skills) an extra useful buff for group based RvR.

Someone please tell me how a extra buff in the AUG line is gonna overpower PAC healers?

klavrynd · Aug 24, 2003

You are not kiding when you are saying healer need better buffs?

and

Go look at how healers perform in rvr solid and rethink your post

are two completely different things

healers have the same base buffs as the other realms support (af,str,con,dex) , ghettohaste and resistbuffs in aug and conc based mr (pox) in pac

The fact that you have a hard time killing groups with 3 healers has nothing to do with buffspells (in which imo mid takes the bottom spot again)

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