Chris Benoit and family found dead!

[old.Tohtori]

I'm sure he's a great image of a good man!

First, how he went out is still a questionmark.

Second, it doesn't change how he was as a man before.

A man is not judged only by his most recent events, that's narrowminded and petty.

Also, i would appreciate if you didn't take my condolences and use them as a stupid trolling attempt..

 

[Solo]

A man is not judged only by his most recent events, that's narrowminded and petty.

I think killing your wife and child pretty much supercedes anything.

 

[Ezteq]

putting the milk back when theres only like half a teaspoon left is worse



bad ez, bad bad!!!


i'm sorry

vague attempt to deflect impending flamification and fighting between members r.e. personal opinions, chance of success 0.00001

 

[old.Tohtori]

I think killing your wife and child pretty much supercedes anything.

So, no matter what the man has done, no matter how many inspired or lifes changed, they mean absolutely nothing if he snapped due to steroids?

Hell, why do anything for people, or be a nice guy at all when you -might- one day go coocoo and kill someone and then be dismissed as nothing but scum.

Sure, if he killed them, it's bad, but it doesn't change the fact of who he was.

Good, decent people snap every day, i have no doubt that this was any different(if at all the case). People sometimes loose it, due to stress or other issues, and for a brief moment they are not that human. We don't put them in the same murdering raping scumpile.

But from what Eq said, she's a bit right, shouldn't discuss it here. And CERTAINLY shouldn't take other peoples sympathy and condolence post and use it as a trolling device.

 

[Bahumat]

So do you think he did the Crippler Crossface?

yes im evil today

 

[old.Tohtori]

That's not evil, that's just in really really bad taste.

 

[Bahumat]

That's not evil, that's just in really really bad taste.

He was my favourite wrestler when i was a kid, but if he did kill them, i lose all respect for him.

 

[Thadius]

Reading the press conference reports, im saddened to say that it appears he DID kill his wife and kid before hanging himself.

All I can say, is why?

 

[Azurus]

People sometimes loose it, due to stress or other issues, and for a brief moment they are not that human. We don't put them in the same murdering raping scumpile.

You think all murderers and rapists are evil men who spend their life plotting these deeds?

Seems you are making excuses for this guy just cos he was your favourite wrestler.

 

[megadave]

what a scumbag coward

 

[old.Tohtori]

You think all murderers and rapists are evil men who spend their life plotting these deeds?

Seems you are making excuses for this guy just cos he was your favourite wrestler.

Actually he wasn't, not by a long shot, i respected what he did, both professionally and in regards to helping people, but as a wrestler he was quite boring to me.

What i'm saying is that we don't know all the facts, most is speculation and fox/cnn news coverage(of all people), who would like nothing more then for this to be a scandal instead of anything else.

Also am saying that as a person, he didn't seem like the type to just "go out and murder people", if there were psychological problems in combination with the steroids making him go ballistic, then most certainly he's not in the same group as the murderers and rapists. Who, by the way, do premeditate a bit most the time. But good people, who kill their wives and daughters, don't do ti without some serious aspects in play. I'd say temporary insanity is a good bet.(yes i know, not the best of terms, but clears my point a bit)

 

[cHodAX]

Some of the posts in this thread have been vile. Many of you are pre-judging something that has yet to be decided based on information that has yet to be confirmed. Others are trolling the thread looking to get a reaction. Frankly I wish I hadn't posted this thread now, it has descended into a flame war and no respect is being shown to what is a tragic incident no matter what has happened.

 

[cHodAX]

Can a mod please close this thread before these distasteful comments get any worse?

 

[Azurus]

Some of the posts in this thread have been vile. Many of you are pre-judging something that has yet to be decided based on information that has yet to be confirmed. Others are trolling the thread looking to get a reaction. Frankly I wish I hadn't posted this thread now, it has descended into a flame war and no respect is being shown to what is a tragic incident no matter what has happened.

Where's the flame war?

 

[Thadius]

Some of the posts in this thread have been vile. Many of you are pre-judging something that has yet to be decided based on information that has yet to be confirmed. Others are trolling the thread looking to get a reaction. Frankly I wish I hadn't posted this thread now, it has descended into a flame war and no respect is being shown to what is a tragic incident no matter what has happened.

I know what you mean, i was in tears when I found out last night he was dead. Someone who ive watched for the past 10 years gone.

Today has been on of the most surreal and tbh, it hasnt sunk in what he has alledegedly done. He seemed so normal and down to earth.

I just feel for his 2 other kids, lost a Mum, Dad and Brother

 

[soze]

I think if he did do it, it wont be a pre meditated it would have been an argument with his wife that went wrong. Then realising if he is sent to prision his kid gose to foster care and he did what he though was right??

Not excusing anything but like some people the ALLEDGED actions of this one day cant make me change my view of a wrestler that has had a reputation as a great man for over 10 years.

 

[Calaen]

Its all very weird Something has obviously been going on and until it does I will hold judgment. He will be missed regardless of the outcome he has given many people alot of enjoyment. It does not change who he was.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Can a mod please close this thread before these distasteful comments get any worse?

This is a wrong reaction really, many people on this thread still respect and have strong feelings they might want to discuss on the matter.

Don't stop something just 'cause some people are not acting, well, any different then with any other matter that wouldn't concern them.

If you wish to do a thread, that doesn't discuss the issue at all, and is simply there to show respects and to honor the man he was, might another thread be too much?

Ok

Stop the shit. Keep it nice and clean.

Or this. Nevermind the upper part.

 

[Deebs]

Ok

Stop the shit. Keep it nice and clean.

 

[megadave]

I think if he did do it, it wont be a pre meditated it would have been an argument with his wife that went wrong. Then realising if he is sent to prision his kid gose to foster care and he did what he though was right??

why would you rather your kid die than be in foster care? it's not that bad ...

 

[soze]

why would you rather your kid die than be in foster care? it's not that bad ...

Most american kids would arguee that you get horrible parents who only want you for the check. I mean about foster care not being that bad not death.

 

[Thadius]

WrestlingNewsWorld: Cops say Benoit murdered wife, son, then killed himself

Theere is the Press Conference.

 

[old.Tohtori]

WrestlingNewsWorld: Cops say Benoit murdered wife, son, then killed himself

Theere is the Press Conference.

Seems like there's nothing REALLY incriminating yet, though suspicious at some ways.

So mixed signals, taking into account they say that steroids didn't have anything to do with it, which is again totally contradictory to his persona.(as in a sense that in full mind he couldn't have done anything like that)

Have to wait and see.

Especially with all the "hands tied" and "emergency at home" to avoid a PPV match...it's just..well..silly to declare it a murdersuicide.

 

[Thadius]

Seems like there's nothing REALLY incriminating yet, though suspicious at some ways.

So mixed signals, taking into account they say that steroids didn't have anything to do with it, which is again totally contradictory to his persona.(as in a sense that in full mind he couldn't have done anything like that)

Have to wait and see.

Especially with all the "hands tied" and "emergency at home" to avoid a PPV match...it's just..well..silly to declare it a murdersuicide.

Exactly, Benoit was noted for his professional conduct with regards to wrestling. Almost never missed a match

 

[old.Tohtori]

Exactly, Benoit was noted for his professional conduct with regards to wrestling. Almost never missed a match

Noticed that my "avoid" was a bad choice for words.

Yes, he was a devoted fighter, and also a devoted husband(as told by countless of people, including his wife on several occasions).

To imagine, that this kind of man would be cabable of killing his wife, after bounding her hands and feet, then proceed to kill his kid and kill himself, after overcoming huge obstacles in his life before, without anything else to the story...it's just absurd.

 

[DocWolfe]

Noticed that my "avoid" was a bad choice for words.

Yes, he was a devoted fighter, and also a devoted husband(as told by countless of people, including his wife on several occasions).

To imagine, that this kind of man would be cabable of killing his wife, after bounding her hands and feet, then proceed to kill his kid and kill himself, after overcoming huge obstacles in his life before, without anything else to the story...it's just absurd.

Maybe he's been playing too many violent video games.

 

[BloodOmen]

wow..lost for words.. was my fav wrestler as a kid

still are a kid ain't you but yes it is indeed a tragic loss.. i don't think it would have been a double murder suicide tho :/ if it was however there must have been something bad happend that pushed him towards it... no excuses for killing his own family tho "IF" it was that...

 

[Marc]

Some of the posts in this thread have been vile. Many of you are pre-judging something that has yet to be decided based on information that has yet to be confirmed. Others are trolling the thread looking to get a reaction. Frankly I wish I hadn't posted this thread now, it has descended into a flame war and no respect is being shown to what is a tragic incident no matter what has happened.

why? He did kill his wife and kids. We knew this last night. He is a scum bag as I said last night and Its good to see WWE have removed his memory from their website and merchandising. Good to hear Vince McMahon is to apologise for holding a memorial on raw in his honour.

People are saying it was the steroids. Other known steriod users and HGH users are Kurt Angle, Edge, Rey Mysterio, Shane Helms and Randy Orton

 

[soze]

why? He did kill his wife and kids. We knew this last night. He is a scum bag as I said last night and Its good to see WWE have removed his memory from their website and merchandising. Good to hear Vince McMahon is to apologise for holding a memorial on raw in his honour.

People are saying it was the steroids. Other known steriod users and HGH users are Kurt Angle, Edge, Rey Mysterio, Shane Helms and Randy Orton

Vince McMahon will not apologise for anything as according to the story line he is dead at the moment.

People said Eddie was steroids too its the typical responce when a wrestler dies. But it was proved Eddie was clean when he died but abusing drugs earlier in life was the cause. We will have to wait for his blood tests ect to find out the truth.

And your list of known users is bogus i Will believe Kurt and Orton. But the other two do not have the bodies of steriod users. And if i had to accuse any body it would be the huge guys with loads of mucel who spend there life traveling not in a gym. Batista Lashly ect. Mysterio who has been out injured for 6 months no.

 

[Marc]

Vince McMahon will not apologise for anything as according to the story line he is dead at the moment.

People said Eddie was steroids too its the typical responce when a wrestler dies. But it was proved Eddie was clean when he died but abusing drugs earlier in life was the cause. We will have to wait for his blood tests ect to find out the truth.

And your list of known users is bogus i Will believe Kurt and Orton. But the other two do not have the bodies of steriod users. And if i had to accuse any body it would be the huge guys with loads of mucel who spend there life traveling not in a gym. Batista Lashly ect. Mysterio who has been out injured for 6 months no.

Dude, Vince McMahon has alread appeared on TV. They have scrapped the him being dead storyline, and yes he will apologise, on the ECW broadcast. As for the steriod and HGH users I mentioned, do I really have to go find the link to prove you wrong? There is an ongoing investigation about steriod and HGH abuse and they have found the names ive listed to be using them. Edge has already made a statement on his myspace about it, admitting it.