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Calaen

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Guys your using extreme situations that I probably wont ever come across how do you expect me to even consider your views.

I mean there is more chance of me being asked to bone some hot chick on the bus on the way to the airport, than there is of me being stopped as a potential terrorist.

Go outside stop watching Michael Moore, meet some people preferably normal folk like Throd and Trem :p. your wasting valuable life minutes and caring about nothing. I can still prevent you from wasting more minutes inventing crazy government plans.. just close your eyes and click your high heels 3 times.
 

Ch3tan

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Cal do you not see that the apathy you are showing leads to the government being braver and bolder when they bring in new laws and regulations to stop people doing anything?

Small things you may not personally care about lead to much bigger things that affect everyone.
 

`mongoose

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bodhi said:
So yeah, speeding is terrible and must be punished. someone should probably tell the copper I followed into work yesterday doing 75 in a 60 without his flashers on though.

I agree 100% mate. Where I work there's a police 'admin' centre to convince wealthy people that it's safe to buy the expensive houses next door as there's police to keep em safe from the council flats 1/2 a mile away. They're regularly parked all over the double yellow lines. The fact that policemen regularly flout road laws makes it triply hard to get any drivers to obey them.

I suppose the fella on a straight road doing 150 was clocked by a camera then if there was no other traffic? If he'd left the road totalled his car and killed himself and 2 passengers I wonder if we'd be thinking he was driving safely? You could argue he's only killing himself but then equally you could argue about the strain him having to be cleaned up out of his car put's on the emergency services, just because he was confident he could drive at 150mph

eca said:
Mr Garvin explained: "I actually believe in casualty reduction and trying to make the roads safer but, having looked at the accident statistics in this area, we find that if you break down the 1,900 collisions we have each year only three per cent involve cars that are exceeding the speed limit. Just 60 accidents per year involve vehicles exceeding the speed limit.

That's what all drivers do when they've had an accident isn't it, tell the Police exactly what they're doing?


ECA said:
And he won't mind being detained for 24hrs under anti terrorism laws when an airport chemical detector is faulty and he's aggressively questioned by anti terrorism officers. Nor the strip search.

They are just doing their job.

Whereas he wouldn't mind being blown up by the terrorist who wasn't strip searched because anti-terrorism officers didn't have the power to strip search because people kept moaning about them going over the top or living in a Nanny State?

I'm not saying that what happened in that case was right, I know I would be very annoyed and probably humiliated by that experience but, I'd rather be annoyed and humiliated than blown up or flown into the side of a building.

dagaffer said:
You know what, I may be 'an aggressive cock' but at least I fucking care about what's going on, rather than being lead by the nose. Calean isn't stating an opinion, if anything he's absolving himself from the need to have any opinion at all. I feel no guilt at all about attacking apathy and pig ignorance.

and doing it in a pig ignorant way yourself - good game you eh?

M
 

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Calaen said:
Guys your using extreme situations that I probably wont ever come across how do you expect me to even consider your views.

I mean there is more chance of me being asked to bone some hot chick on the bus on the way to the airport, than there is of me being stopped as a potential terrorist.

Go outside stop watching Michael Moore, meet some people preferably normal folk like Throd and Trem :p. your wasting valuable life minutes and caring about nothing. I can still prevent you from wasting more minutes inventing crazy government plans.. just close your eyes and click your high heels 3 times.

http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk...29027&method=full&siteid=50002-name_page.html

More extreme crazy goverment plans just make sure you dont have a hooded jacket on next year coz it will cost you...and god help you if you smoke:)
 

Calaen

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Ch3tan said:
Cal do you not see that the apathy you are showing leads to the government being braver and bolder when they bring in new laws and regulations to stop people doing anything?

Small things you may not personally care about lead to much bigger things that affect everyone.

I do Ch3t but having read Goose post above he covers what I want to say in a much better way :) I would rather be delayed knowing that they could prevent the plane going bang. It is unlikely that this stuff is going to happen to me but if it did I would not be a dick about it thats just going to make it worse.
 

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I think the number of visitors went up by 23% the weekend after they banned hoodies.

Tory councillor Tim Huxtable said that omg lol :wanker:
 

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`mongoose said:
Whereas he wouldn't mind being blown up by the terrorist who wasn't strip searched because anti-terrorism officers didn't have the power to strip search because people kept moaning about them going over the top or living in a Nanny State?

Actually, interestingly enough I'd rather run the risk of being blown up than have my freedoms (and others) tampered with. I'm not sure if you've read 1984 but in it we're always at war because a nation at war is more willing to give up its freedoms in order to remain safe.

Terrorists are just the new boogy men - give up your freedom or they'll gitcha!
 

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Ormorof said:
if no one bloody votes of course its not going to change!

Actually the opposite is true - if nobody voted the Government would have no legitimacy and things would HAVE to change - by most people continuing to vote in a system they have no faith in it ensures political stasis!!!
 

nath

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Next time I may just scap my vote. I'll turn up and just void it so they can't put it down to voter apathy but I've still not given any support to people who I really don't care for.
 

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DaGaffer said:
You know what, I may be 'an aggressive cock' but at least I fucking care about what's going on, rather than being lead by the nose. Calean isn't stating an opinion, if anything he's absolving himself from the need to have any opinion at all. I feel no guilt at all about attacking apathy and pig ignorance.

I dont agree with Cals views but they are reasonable enough yet one might get the impression that he has come here with some race hatred post or something from some of the reactions.

Its an honestly held view and hes willing to discuss it reasonably so why not discuss it reasonably rather than rant - your destroying your own arguement by your method of delivery...
 

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nath said:
Actually, interestingly enough I'd rather run the risk of being blown up than have my freedoms (and others) tampered with. I'm not sure if you've read 1984 but in it we're always at war because a nation at war is more willing to give up its freedoms in order to remain safe.

Terrorists are just the new boogy men - give up your freedom or they'll gitcha!

In fairness mate 1984 is a book not a bible. George Orwell also said -

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.

- George Orwell

(Im a bit of a fan)
 

nath

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throdgrain said:
In fairness mate 1984 is a book not a bible.

That's true, but it's eery just how accurate it is, has been and most likely will continue to be.
 

DaGaffer

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Calaen said:
Bah I thought it was going to be a dummies guide on walking round with your head up your own arse....

You wouldn't need a Dummies Guide to do that, you're clearly an expert.
 

TdC

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clear and present argumenting please, or I shall use my scabby handses to tamper with your freedoms :eek:
 

Trem

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throdgrain said:
(Im a bit of a fan)

I'm more a fan of Orville, you know, the duck. He touched my heart.
 

Trem

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Calaen said:
meet some people preferably normal folk like Throd and Trem

WTF!!!

You take that back, I aren't normal :eek:

Only yesterday I told you I was wearing a boy.
 

Calaen

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DaGaffer said:
You wouldn't need a Dummies Guide to do that, you're clearly an expert.

Thats why I said what I said. You are clearly unable to hold a discussion and instead resorting to childish links, although it makes me smile that Tom actually spent time doing that. Go Team Anti Government!!!!!!
 

Calaen

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Trem said:
WTF!!!

You take that back, I aren't normal :eek:

Only yesterday I told you I was wearing a boy.

I still wub you :-*(
 

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omg I thought it was just the Daoc section that had this kind of flames :)
 

TdC

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hehe this is nothing! in the olden daze, people would explain in extreme detail why others were fools without even entering into debate ;)
 

Calaen

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TdC said:
hehe this is nothing! in the olden daze, people would explain in extreme detail why others were fools without even entering into debate ;)

TDC you fool organise Gamesday 2 :p
 

TdC

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Feel like helping me with that Cal?
 

TdC

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I have done so! You may now change your title to "TdC's loveslave" ;)
 

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Democracy doesn't work. What we need is a benevolent dictatorship.
 

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