cheating? you may want to read this........

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old.The Nullifier

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I dont fail to understand anything.... your posts are always badly written and not thought out, and I still see through the BS

I imagine you wont 'screw' your ef up if you test your aimbot that you claim to have. You dont need to join a server it will work on bots - and if it doesnt you can use an alias surely?

Dont tell me to use my brain I have one trust me, its interesting that you seem to returning to silly insults like this... kinda lame. You have a right to do what you want and tbh I dont care... but what I do care about is someone announcing to everyone that he's used and has an aimbot and 5% of people use them online.. especially when theres not a shred of evidence.

Get it into your head - this is doing EF no good.... if you do 'discover' a cheat nothing will be done about it - so all you are doing is a) giving lame cheat accusers an excuse to have a go at good players b) alerting people that cheats are available and will encourage them to look c) make people unwilling to play Ef because of alleged cheating... So tell me whats the point?
 
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old.crashpaddy

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im sick and tired of this shit from you null.like it or lump it cheats are out there! and the EFPA will research them like it or not!deal with it asshole.if you can't handle people calling you a cheat on public servers you know what to do don't you!.anyone else who gets accused of cheating has the common sense to laugh it off.if you know that you not cheating then why be bothered about it huh?

do you think i haven't been accused of cheating before? knowing you you'll probably say "no you haven't because you are crap compared to the likes of me" but you would be wrong.i have been called a cheat 3 times before,twice because of a scores alot higher than anyone else on the server and another because of photon jumping.the people who said it were new players i guess because of no colour in thier name.but do you know what...........i laughed it off and explained the photon jump to the one person and told the others to look at the length of time i had been playing in that game compared to others.
so my advice to you is next time someone calls you a cheat explain to them how long you have been playing etc maybe then they might understand.

so this is doing no good to EF?....................right just like the cheaters on Q3,CS and nameless other games did no good to those games,but did the normal players of those games sit back and watch it happen? no! people mailed the game designers,told them what was happening on servers and thats how they got a patch.
now im only doing the same but with a bunch of people i know and trust and doing it through an organised group.getting info together so rather than send them off one by one we can send them as one package to show raven how bad it is or how bad it can be!

quote " alerting people that cheats are available and will encourage them to look" lol..................OMG your telling me that you have never ever looked into it before? everyone at some point in thier playing time on one game or another has searched for cheats.chances of finding them available on a website/page is as slim as you actually managing to make me dispanned the EFPA.
most cheats are created by several people who know coding,the chance of them actually making that cheat available to everyone is very,very slim.what would they gain if everyone had that cheat? the whole playing community would be level wouldn't they and then they wouldn't have an advantage to everyone else.

take Q3 for example,there are so many aimbots about there is even an aimbot league!

why are there so many aimbots? because there are an awful lot of people who can manipulate game coding!

do you not belive that some of these Q3 players haven't came over to EF?theres no doubt in my mind that some have,and what have they brought with them......................the entire arsenal of thier cheats which work on Q3 or something based around the Q3 engine!

and approximatly what percentage of player would you think know how to manipulate game code enough to make lots of cheats?

hmmmmmmm im taking a rough guess at 5% !!!!!!!!
 
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old.The Nullifier

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Why cant you post without insulting me calling me thick or an asshole, or having a go because I have a differing opinion to you... cool guy.


l8rs
 
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old.crashpaddy

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because thats the way i am......................like it or lump it.

i have researched this for numerous hours,had people telling me that they have experienced cheats and others tell me they know cheats.for someone to come along and say there are no cheats and make it sound like im doing the wrong thing and makes it sound like what you are saying is that these people (who have told me they feel they have be cheated on and the people who have told me they know cheats) are bullshitting!

when im only doing what other people did in other games to get something done!
it kind of annoys me you know!i
f i was only only one complaining about it i could understand,but im not the only person am i!
 
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old.crashpaddy

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not on here!!!!!!!!!

bloody hell use more sense please!
 
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watcher

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FFS all were trying to do is help EF. If anyones killing it null its you all uve done is bitch about there are no cheats when quite clearly there is.Whats the point of you and crash slagging each other off, the EFPA will carry on researching in to aimbots and any other cheats and no one no matter how much bitching there is nothing will stop this! As crash says get over it please all were trying to is make EF enjoyable again!! Whats wrong with that??
 
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wadada

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heya

yes there are cheats, i met players who have at one shot enough to kill me and when i try to kill them i need 4 or 5 shots, once i had my health on 100 and my other health on 200 from green shields someone shot me once and i died that is normally not possible, and yes when you get the flag and then freeze i had also many times, i know a few persons who use aimbot cheat but they will always deny it, well poor cheating buggers if this is how they wanna win , i hope they all die for real soon. LOL

and yes there are also honest very good players and clans and nothing then respect for them, but all the cheaters out there you know who you are , and you are all stupid ass losers , stop cheating ! ! !

waddy :p

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( sorry for my bad english language nulli i am dutch ) lol
 
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old.The Nullifier

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one word: Proof

you should bring some before making accusations, then people will listen. And yeah you keep saying that you are doing it blah blah... but you should have gotten the proof 1st I think.

I keep saying it and ill say it again - and maybe you will be able to give me a clear reason for once , if youve got an aimbot why cant you make a demo to show us that it actually exists : if you need help then Ill be happy to help and you can use the aimbot on me whilst we make a demo.. If you cant make a demo tell us why.
 
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mr.Blacky

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he cant Nulli he is too busy answering your posts ;)
So give him sometime please. He might be not be good at writing scripts so he asked someone else to do him a favor. It is impossible to make someone rush if he/she is doing him a favor. Also he perhaps didn't think about the short term and the fall out. But as I see it he wanted to make playing ef more fun. You can criticise his discisions but not his motive. I wish more people dared to do the same.

Crash I said it once and I will say it again no foul mouthing please, it works counter productive.


If you 2 aren't going to act like people that love to play ef I am going to wash your mouths out with "Oranjeboom" Crash you ask Wadada what good beer that is. Nullifier ask Monolith he's dutch aint he?;) rofl
 
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old.The Nullifier

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another unclear answer :( If theres an aimbot in your possesion then no hard work needs to be done - make a demo very very simple.

If you are actually making the cheats just to prove a point... then thats (as ive said before) the dumbest thing ive ever heard - you are then the bad guys imo.
 
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old.ccc^krak3n

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Ok.......all we ask is the following :

a) A demo, use this aim bot u have, join a pure server and use efrec or something and post it up to d/l.

b) These aimbot websites.......erm...links plz?

c) Send this aimbot to reven so they can investigate it;s uses in ef, they are the experts, not this 'Q3 guy'

if u give us tho's 3 things, then we will beleive u...all we ask. :)

Like in court, no case can be won without eveidence.
 
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old.crashpaddy

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lol with all the bitching i've had about it the general EF public can go screw themselves if they think we are going to share information.from now on it's just EFPA and raven that will deal with this issue.thats the best way to do it i belive!the website will now be dedicated to helping new players learn things about EF that they wouldn't know if they don't join a clan.and don't start going on about "oh he isn't sharing information anymore because he hasn't got anything"...........well think what you want,i know i have,other members have also,so say what you want it's not going to make us feel bad or anything.in reality it will be your loss not ours.

all i did was post on here to drum up some help but some people had to take it further,they wanted proof,then they should of joined EFPA while i was still in a good mood to let everyone in.and btw i don't know how many times i have said this before,but after shy-FX's little ditty post i may as well make it clear........im not the only person in EFPA remember.i may run on 56k but we have members with cable,adsl,isdn.......i may not have the fastest computer in the world but we have members that have got everything available to them at the moment.so it's not just one person with the problem it's many o.k.

we started researching this with the best intensions in mind,now people saying we are researching it because we want the cheats to use for ourselves and that totally FUBAR!I have no need for cheats because personally i couldn't care if i was the highest or the lowest scorer in a game unlike some people.i just like playing for fun as do the rest of the EFPA members (some respected players as well might i add which leads me to my next comment)


btw watch the piss taking people!you may be indirectly insulting a fellow clan member or friend who is a member of the EFPA,just a warning o.k.
 
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old.The Nullifier

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still no demo then?........ kinda backfired didnt it oh well, keep your cheats to yourself - thats a good idea anyway.
 
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old.SHY-FX

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Crash if you have an aimbot for EF which you keep saying you have, even though I know you dont, see me in gamespy and we shall go for a duel in a barrysworld servers you do a demo and I'll do a demo. No need to tell anyone where you got it from, just post the demo of you hitting me 100%, or even hitting me 10% of the time.

When you show us the proof that you keep banging on about having, then you can speak, until then its a load of BS. If you had this proof what kind of a monkey are you not to make a demo of it?...................I know, a bullshiting tosser

There no point saying you have an aimbot but you deleted it, when all it is is a quake 3 aimbot that wont work with EF now is there?


And I agree with AchtzeHne whoever he is, thats why you dont see many UK decent UK players online and so many abusive alias's its because there sick to death of been called cheat and whatever other crap springs to a n00bs mind by wankers they dont even know, I dont go into servers and start abusing people I dont know. Just like I dont walk down the street giving shit to people I dont know, but then I'm a normal person with some sort of social skills.
 
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old.crashpaddy

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couldn't care how much you guys keep going on and i don't care about your choice about if i have or not,certain people in EFPA know we have and thats all that matters.

like i said this ain't going public anymore,it isn't going to be demonstrated to people who aren't with either EFPA or raven so just deal with it.maybe going public that cheating can be done on EF wasn't a good idea in the first place and i am sorry for this.

btw if shy if you had read all the post instead of just skimming through them then you would know why i haven't done a demo.like i said before all cheats are being researched in game by one guy who knows all this stuff inside out,all the other members do whatever they want,if the find cheats they can either research them or pass them on to the EFPA community and someone else picks it up.i only have the copy to pass onto ravengames as i am dealing with them.i personally am not going to use the aimbot myself due me not wanting to forget to delete it etc and tarnish my clans name.he can do it as he isn't in a clan and has no worries about it.

understand:confused:
 
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old.crashpaddy

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Originally posted by SHY-FX
And I agree with AchtzeHne whoever he is, thats why you dont see many UK decent UK players online and so many abusive alias's its because there sick to death of been called cheat and whatever other crap springs to a n00bs mind by wankers they dont even know, I dont go into servers and start abusing people I dont know. Just like I dont walk down the street giving shit to people I dont know, but then I'm a normal person with some sort of social skills.
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well what you have to understand that has always came with any game,like i have said before i have never accused anyone directly of cheating in any game i have played on!


why the hell do i have to keep repeating myself?
 
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old.SHY-FX

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Look your full of it and it is totally obvious to everyone here.
You keep repeating yourself because you have nothing to back up your wild claims apart from its been tested by your imaginary freinds, and your not going public with a demo because......errr the demo would be to dangerous lol. You havent directly accused someone because your a ghastly lounge lizzard, that just makes ridiculous accusations with no evidense, why not do a demo of the said players?....oh yea.....to dangerous

I am begining to think you are just having a laugh, cause no one would talk this bull with out showing some proof, either that or your a nut case
 
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old.Soupeh

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crash, i've lost count of the number of times you've contradicted yourself in these posts. Although I think that forming this group is a generally good idea I have to say I'm not too impressed with the way you're trying to make it appear to be some sort of elite organisation that has the confidential ear of folk at raven. Maybe this is due to your reaction to some peoples comments about it and/or you - that's immaterial in my opinion.
Basically, if you have the means to cheat, and you are part of a group dedicating themselves to letting new people know what to expect from the game, and to expose any such cheating that can be accomplished in the game, do you not owe it to other gamers to post this proof? Even if it is only on your own site, and not in answer to this thread.
Ultimately, i think your quest for action from raven will be in vain. It's been nearly a year since the last patch was released and a lot of people have complained to raven about things that they broke with the patch - such as the vote rigging "bug" amongst many other things. If nothing has happened since then, I can't honestly see it happening at all. As Kenn said, they are busy working on Jedi Knight 2 and Soldier of Fortune 2 and probably a few other things as well, plus they'll have to do the post-release patches for those 2 games, to fix the things they missed/had to botch to get the game out of the door on time/couldnt be bothered with.

Apologies for my english if it is bad - feel free to talk to me in my native language if you want a better version :)
 
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mr.Blacky

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hmmm thought we already one the namecalling bit lol. Imho a decent player also doesn't have to call people names. People can be good fraggers but lousy people...
This is getting to be a very boring and silly thread nobody is convincing anyone.
Have to say funny link SHY.
ps what does JFHC mean??? And before you say yeah I am n00b so what rofl
 
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old.ccc^krak3n

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Originally posted by crashpaddy

like i said this ain't going public anymore,it isn't going to be demonstrated to people who aren't with either EFPA or raven
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so if i join EFPA can i see this aimbot of yours? or these websites u vist about aimbots?

And erm, if what your doing is for the decent and honest ef players, why should your infomation be confidential?, if it is proven cheats exist we should all know, not just your EFPA or Raven. it effects us all.

I think your trying to back out of it know cos u'r out of your league.
 
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old.crashpaddy

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sorry soup but my anger does get the better of me sometimes,thats the reson why some of these posts have come out the way they have.the reason why it's so angering is that i have put so much time and effort into it and all im getting (from most of the "better" clans/players) is abuse.
i have a few people on my side who are very good players.and own quite a few asses and they recognize that there is something wrong.
maybe it would of been better if some of these people who are complaining about it would of been better off registering at the EFPA forum and having it out there rather than here.i wanted alot of oppinions wether they be for or against and we could of worked on it from there instead of making it a thread of abuse and counter abuse.unfortunatly it's gone beyond that now for some people.
as for making the cheats public that was our original idea.to find,research and then let the community know.but from the abuse i have been reciving i "personally" am not willing to do that anymore.the reason? well even when we get the demo through from our guy your still going to get people say oh thats bullshit!
if any of the other members want to post the results then they can do.but until said demo is in our hands nothing is going to be said.
i know that ravengames are busy with thier various projects,thats why we are looking into cheats rather than saying to them "hey there are cheats guys",they are less likely to do something about it if they had to do all the research as well as making a patch/program.not only that people know game coding,thats why they can make cheats,but that can also be reversed and theres a possiblilty they can counter those cheats through coding as well.so raven get the research done for them and (even though the chances of this happening are very slim)they may end up with a half/100% complete patch in thier hands.
btw the vote rigging is now noted along with the invisible player server prob.thanks i forgot about that one :)

===blacky===

lol if i put what JFHC was on here i would probably get banned :)
 
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old.ccc^krak3n

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To be honest crash.....efr';s already dead, i only play it for amusment now and when Jedi Outcast comes out, it hink it will be all over. Many ef players are waiting for JO, it's just like ef but 10 times better.....once it's out.....goodbye ef. for me anyway.
 
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old.SHY-FX

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listen

Me and your dude with the cheat enable, 1 on 1 duel in a barrysworld server, end of story.

We will both do a demo of this epic revelation, but its not gonna happen is it? cause your full of crap.

We will do a demo in a pure server, if not, stop talking bullshit, jesus your so full of crap its unreal, and your dumb assed excuses for not revealing these imaginary cheats border on ludicrous
 
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old.crashpaddy

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basically krak3n............no.
before all this hassle came along maybe things could be different but im ony allowing people who i know personally from now on.people have said that making it public was a bad choice......so what do i do......make it private.

plus the aimbot isn't in the forum as it's not downloadable from a website.no cheat coding,no programs etc are put up on the forum at all (obviously to stop them getting in the wrong hands) only an explaination of them will ever be put up and that was then going to be put on the website once everything had been researched.then again i've spent most of my time on here try to explain things to no avail.not really getting much research done am i?

aim bots aren't easy things to come by,most are handed down (so to speak) between friends.hardly anyone puts up decent aimbots anyway regardless of what game it is.but i know aimbot is possible because for one,i have one sat on my harddrive and two,i have been told by three Q3 experts that they are very easily converted.
 
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old.crashpaddy

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bloody hell shy you've had my answer!jesus can you not understand plain english?????my choice............not yours,think what you want to think...........basically couldn't care less i know i've got it,others know i have got it and thats all that matters.

krak3n that maybe the case but there will still be people playing this regardless and no doubt even you will pop in now and again.maybe it will be fruitless in the end (i don't care either way)but if you don't try you will never know.

i actually used to play EF until i found myself stuck on this damn forum lol
 
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old.crashpaddy

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yay........hes falling asleep,at last i can get on with normal life with out having to put up with his annoying moaning!
 
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