Catacombs NDA lifted

Ilienwyn

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well, gogo Fingoniel.
Although tbh my fears of alb getting the gimpiest class of all 5 seem to prove true after all! :(
 

Smilewhenyousaythat

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Oh my freaking god!

Hib just got 2 completely awesome classes - bang goes stealth as defence with the wall climbing stealth hunting pre buffed vampiir.

And fear the hibzerg with bainshees. Ow ow ow ow ow!
 

Culanan

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Well the stealth lore on vampiirs confirms my theory they would be anti-stealth, although ofc you have to spec for it.

1.5x skill points per level, well I suppose 50 pierce (since your regaining mana depends on your melee dmg) and a sort of 35+/- for second line and 20+/- on a third if split spec works out fairly well :D

Ok the lack of buffing (apart from AF, haste and dmg shield) sucks a wee bit, the stat bonuses are nice although you'll never have the stats of a fully buffed toon so it'll be interesting to see who they underperform against!

I reckon the choice of spec changes what classes you are more effective against, one for anti-stealth, one for reducing magic dmg and taking out mages and another for facing up to tanks (weaponskill buff etc).

Never do them all brilliantly but will do very well against particular targets, anyway, I likeski :D
 

Culanan

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Arnor said:
lol, lies! heretic sounds kung!

I found the 5% and 10% abs spells a bit dissapointing myself, playing a VW I see how much of a lifesaver 33% absorb is when wearing cloth versus melee (bolts are nasteh), hope it comes with some nice tools to survive 1v1 tho, just so albs can see that just because it wears cloth doesn't mean it is of the gimpeh.

Oh Doh, just noticed they can get up to 30% absorb with 49 enhance, includes a bunch of self buffs and so on, guess I'll try one of them on alb/pryd then :D
 

Jpeg[LOD]

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Ilienwyn said:
You should go to a doctor to check your nose :D

from what i can gather from reading threads on various boards prior to the nda being lifted. heretics are uber and completely fuck up friars . as they have much more to give, (aint looked into it personally. might fire up my old usa acc n check if any 50 heretics etc can duel me in cs or summin n see how strong they r
 

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Cloth armour and small shields from level 5. Ability to wear leather is lost upon becoming a heretic.

What of we slap leather SC armour on before lvl 5 and then PL em to 50? :>
 

Gordonax

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Xplo said:
What of we slap leather SC armour on before lvl 5 and then PL em to 50? :>

Nope - if it's the same as the Vamp, any "illegal" armour you're wearing when you convert is placed in your back pack :)
 

Watchh

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Pete's Guide said:
Also note that the semi-focus spells will interrupt the target constantly.
Pete's Guide said:
the vampiir is able to both move and attack in melee while using a semi-focus spell, and the spell only drops if the target moves out of range.
:eek2:
 

Kagato

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Not in the least bit interested. Will see what an utter fuck up the latest expansion is when its released and finally on euro servers.
 

Tharion

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Xplo said:
What of we slap leather SC armour on before lvl 5 and then PL em to 50? :>

DOH! you know you can't go passed Lvl5 if you don't choose a profession? :)
 

Glottis

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Vampirre sounds fecking nuts.
The Heretic also has a focus spell, but it will be perma interrupted...
Why not the same with the vampirre, or that focus spell has to be THE suck to start with.
Fun reading up on the classes though, Mythic just had to make another reason for people to lvl yet another new toon :)
Regards, Glottis
 

Garbannoch

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All classes sound interesting more or less. Lots of new concepts is basically a good idea. Every class has the potential to be overpowered or suck completely (even after the NDA has been lifted there are a lot of open questions: master level paths, RR5 ability, also most are not 50 yet and very low RR to say how they perform at higher RR). Imo the only class that could be insanely overpowered is the Warlock.

I will try a bainshee for sure - vampiir doesnt sound as good as I imagined it to be.
 

WiZe^

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Jpeg[LOD] said:
Pierce



The vampiir’s Pierce line is similar to the normal Hibernian Pierce line, however it has a few additional styles. The vampiir specific styles are:



6: Vampiir’s Sting – Taunt

11: Head Shot - +50% chance to strike the head <--- LoooooL !

12: Torso Shot - +50% chance to strike the torso

13: Leg Shot - +50% chance to strike the leg

41: Vampiiric Feint – anytime style

43: Eye Shot - +50% chance to strike the head [Chain off 41]

44: Lung Shot - +50% chance to strike the torso [Chain off 41]

45: Knee Cap - +50% chance to strike the leg [Chain off 41]
 

Night

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Spectral Force (baseline)
* DD
* AF buff

Phantasmal Wail (spec)
* 3 sec PBAE pulse that hits roughly as hard as an Enchanter PBAE. Downside is pulse time is stuck at 3 seconds. Upside is you can cast other spells while it pulses, you can move to center on a stack of mobs, and you can sit while PBAEing to use less power (thanks to regening power faster ).
* PBAE Monster scare spell that chases mobs away from you...if the mob doesn't resist and the mob isn't aggroed too much. Kind of like a reverse taunt. The monster runs away for a while, and right now, it will ignore other players beating on it for ~30 seconds before it re-aggroes.
* PBAE dex/qui debuff.
* PBAE root

Spectral Guard (spec)
* 750 range cone AE bolt that shoots a bolt at ALL mobs in the cone area. If there are 10 mobs in front of you, it shoots 10 bolts. 20 sec recast timer.
* 600 range cone AE DD.
* 600 (?) range cone snare (maybe root, can't remember)
* 2300 range taunt

Ethereal Shriek (spec)
* AE focus nearsight (I really wish I remembered the range on these...sorry)
* AE DD
* AE bolt
* AE snare

AE nearsight? its a nightmare come true :(
 

Ckiller

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Can u say "this game just got fucked over more than SI classes did before nerfs" omg ffs :(
 

Tilda

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The nearsight is focus. So its a simple matter of interpting/mezzing the person focusing and then you all lose NS.

Tilda
 

Arnor

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Ckiller said:
Can u say "this game just got fucked over more than SI classes did before nerfs" omg ffs :(

this game just got fucked over more than SI classes did before nerfs
 

Ilienwyn

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Culanan said:
I found the 5% and 10% abs spells a bit dissapointing myself, playing a VW I see how much of a lifesaver 33% absorb is when wearing cloth versus melee (bolts are nasteh), hope it comes with some nice tools to survive 1v1 tho, just so albs can see that just because it wears cloth doesn't mean it is of the gimpeh.

Oh Doh, just noticed they can get up to 30% absorb with 49 enhance, includes a bunch of self buffs and so on, guess I'll try one of them on alb/pryd then :D


Well, Heretic is supposed not to have evade and with cloth, absorb buffs and speccable shield it won't be that good. At least it should have some low evade and more importantly, change raising stats to dex,con,pie or dex,pie,con! :)

PS: Hmm, getting con with levels. That means that it will probably have even more hps than reavers although worse defence!
 

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