Casters

[adams901]

Are these any good at 1v1 or am I just shit.

My lvl 8 Sorcerer just got chopped up into little bits by 1 lvl 9 with 2 swords and I didnt even get them to half health.

Plus they did something to interupt my spell casting.

 

[Vintersorg]

Depends on what you were fighting.
Every class is strong versus some other classes, but bad versus others.
If you're going to try to go 1 vs 1 versus melee dps'ers, such as White Lions and Witch Hunters, you're going to get owned real good. (I'm not saying it's impossible to beat them, but they're just a big problem for casters).
At least that's the impression I have at the moment

 

[Dredge]

It gets much easier as a sorc when you get 'Grip of Fear'. (level 10 I believe) It roots all enemies within 30 feet. Those pesky melee chars will be a lot easier after that. Doombolt, Chillwind, gloomburst, grip, run away, refresh chillwind, doombolt, gloomburst, etc. White lions are surprisingly easy once you get the hang of them. The worst of the melees for a sorc are easily the witch hunters.

 

[adams901]

not sure what it was to be honest, it was a high elve and it has 2 swords and I assume a spell to interupt spell casting.

I am enjoying my sorc though, more so than the Magus i had during open beta

 

[Aada]

Sorcs are easy pickings for White Lions i am Guardian spec which means my pet does more damage then me at times i just sick the pet on the Sorc and /laugh if they root the pet i got feline grace which unroots it and makes it immune for 10seconds My Lion can tear a sorc to peices.

I think for people playing a Sorc White Lion must be the bane of their class.

 

[adams901]

ok so who is the Sorc annoying to.. i want to bully elves and get easy kills

 

[Aada]

ok so who is the Sorc annoying to.. i want to bully elves and get easy kills

Sorcs are powerful if left alone however if you get to the point where you are making the sorc run around trying not to get hit then that sorc is out of the picture to be fair atleast that is what i try and do in Scenarios.

I always aim to pester a sorc until they have had enough.

 

[adams901]

but i never run away, i just stand there tapping my buttons and trying to cast...

I guess this is my downfall.

 

[krilly]

I had a 1 on 1 earlier tonight in high elf tier 1 rvr zone with my rune priest vs a zealot

we gave up after 15 minutes

 

[Umilard]

I had a 1 on 1 earlier tonight in high elf tier 1 rvr zone with my rune priest vs a zealot

we gave up after 15 minutes

Healer vs healer 1on1 is always a stalemate if you don't make mistakes (atleast on lower levels, dunno about higher).

 

[rynnor]

Healer vs healer 1on1 is always a stalemate if you don't make mistakes (atleast on lower levels, dunno about higher).

The combat healers like Warrior priest will generally beat the runepriest/zealots though as we cant keep up with their dps.

My bane class as a zealot is the witchhunter - I have no real defense against them their sustained dps is just too high - maybe there are tricks at later levels but so far its no contest at all.

 

[Libh]

ya playing as RP I dont even try to kill *anyone* unless they are alteast blue con to me
If they are'nt blue I can't kill them before they heal/run away.

 

[Umilard]

The combat healers like Warrior priest will generally beat the runepriest/zealots though as we cant keep up with their dps.

My bane class as a zealot is the witchhunter - I have no real defense against them their sustained dps is just too high - maybe there are tricks at later levels but so far its no contest at all.

Not so sure about that, i seem to be able to outheal equal level WP/DoK on my RP and zealot, might be that i've fought at low level so far tho. But i won't do much damage against them while keeping alive and beating them is just out of the question.

And yeah, meleedps is the healerbane for sure (just as it should be)..

 

[Muylaetrix]

ok so who is the Sorc annoying to.. i want to bully elves and get easy kills

sorcs and bright wizards are not really good solo classes. they shine when they are grouped with support who knows how to protect them.

 

[Raven]

On a personal note I would like to see all casters ground into the dust for payback at being such retard mode in DAOC

 

[Tiani]

but i never run away, i just stand there tapping my buttons and trying to cast...

I guess this is my downfall.

Thats definately your downfall and you know what ? You do 0 DPS and kill 0 people when your dead. Play smart as a caster, run when you need to run (which would be any time melee are coming at you full force)

I have only so far killed one melee person in melee range and that was because i managed to get a couple of fireballs off before he got to me, then popped the smoke debuff, shield buff and cast sear +meltdown while my dot finished him off.
I came out on top, but only barely with about 40 HP ;p

Always run, no point trying to go toe to toe with warrior types, the classes arent designed in that way.

As someone else said the caster classes arent really built to be solo power houses, they are extremely powerful but only when supplimented by good support.

 

[Muylaetrix]

On a personal note I would like to see all casters ground into the dust for payback at being such retard mode in DAOC

it`s all pov really.

my ice wiz with almost perfect equipment and over 1800 HP got oneshotted more than enough by 2h SB`s like fujiwata. that made me go WTF also...

rock / paper / shotgun

 

[Earl]

Sorcs are effective when you can build some dark magic. Can only really do that in a group with support. Even in solo pve it can be hard work because of the need of dark magic to do lots of damage.

 

[Tiani]

Same with BW.

off-topic! Please everyone go write a small story about your char at https://forums.freddyshouse.com/roleplayers-tavern349/232026-character-bios.html

would be very cool! Maybe FH could make this a competitoin ?

 

[VidX]

It's not a 1v1 game!

The entire mechanic is based around group combat or larger. You shouldn't even be thinking about what classes can beat any other class in a 1v1.

 

[Raven]

Its actually a sandbox game but designed for large scale pvp, people will do and indeed have the right to play how they like (except for cheating ofc) Obviously some classes will be stupid mode in 1v1 but you just have to live with it if you want to solo

Its like the casters in DAOC which used to be plain stupid to fight solo, root, mez, bubble, cast shields etc etc but usually pretty well balanced in large scale fighting.

It would be impossible to balance the game for solo play there are a huge amount more variables in 1v1 that zerg vs zerg, you cannot balance 20 odd classes to all be equal vs each other and still remain different in feel and style. It doesn't matter so much if you have a class designed for the feeble minded in the zerg (sorc, warlock, vamp etc, using daoc classes as I have no idea how the ones in WAR perform in real PvP) because for the most part numbers=win and it will not be noticed quite so much or have so much of an impact.

Your best bet is to make a class that you enjoy playing, get it to 40 then decide if its for you or not, you will be able to make a much better judgement call when you know a bit more about the top end PvP, that's what i have done anyway

Anyway, I for one will be playing the game solo (if i can) whether people like it or not Dipping into the zergs when i fancy it. I also do not plan to play it anywhere near to as hardcore as I did in DAOC

 

[Javai]

Don't overlook your detaunt when playing Sorc in rvr. If I'm playing in a scenario and one melee type comes at me I detaunt it and carry on nuking the support while whoever is close to me chops the meleer up for me

Detaunt will make them do you 50% less damage but will break if you fight back.

1 vs 1 though a Sorc won't beat many classes as you'll end up blowing yourself up with dark magic.

 

[ramathorn]

We had a few runs in morkauns temple with two sorc's. their damage potential with some healage is awesome, the consistently finished top of damage / death blow counts.

As zealot, witch hunters are hell, I wouldnt even try to fight em, just run for your life, i think its much the same for any caster when they come up against them.

 

[Earl]

We had a few runs in morkauns temple with two sorc's. their damage potential with some healage is awesome, the consistently finished top of damage / death blow counts.

As zealot, witch hunters are hell, I wouldnt even try to fight em, just run for your life, i think its much the same for any caster when they come up against them.

Indeed

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

We had a few runs in morkauns temple with two sorc's. their damage potential with some healage is awesome, the consistently finished top of damage / death blow counts.

Which says really nothing at all if you're consitently fighting randoms.

 

[Ogen]

Im abit disapointed with all this heavy AOC CC.. (BW´s ad Sorcs)..
Thought Mythic promised a non CC game, so i chosed to play a melee class for a change. Now, again and again, i stand chain rooted against the 4-5 BW´s we are usually facing in every scenario, being unable to do fuck all for 30 seconds...

This needs fixing imho.. Should get some sort of imunity buff if you´ve been rooted before, within a sertain amount of time. I seem to remember this was how those things was fixed before..

Maybe this changes at higher tiers, who knows.. Just really annoying atm.

 

[Dredge]

This needs fixing imho.. Should get some sort of imunity buff if you´ve been rooted before, within a sertain amount of time. I seem to remember this was how those things was fixed before..

Maybe this changes at higher tiers, who knows.. Just really annoying atm.

I believe they do have some sort of diminishing returns on CC....at least numerous abilities reference it. I have yet to actually see it kick in though.

 

[Ogen]

I believe they do have some sort of diminishing returns on CC....at least numerous abilities reference it. I have yet to actually see it kick in though.

Exactly. Never seen it either, AND the root says it have 50% chance to breake on any damage taken.. This is clearly bugged and dosent work at all..

 

[ramathorn]

Which says really nothing at all if you're consitently fighting randoms.

randoms fighting randoms, both have the same advantages (?) and disadvantages.....

you ever hear the saying "if you have nothing good to say then say nothing"? everything you post seems to be with a serious attitude towards people, seriously, get off your high horse. It simply an observation I have made through t1 and t2 scenarios, any time a relatively sensible sorc gets relatively sensible support they finish consistantly high.

 

[Muylaetrix]

randoms fighting randoms, both have the same advantages (?) and disadvantages.....

It simply an observation I have made through t1 and t2 scenarios, any time a relatively sensible sorc gets relatively sensible support they finish consistantly high.

yeah, but to really `score` as a sorc or BW, you need someone to look after you, heal you and all that stuff, and that person will not score high.

yes, sorcs and bw`s with good support are awesome but it asks a bit of teamwork.

it`s a bit like the pbaoe classes in daoc, a pbaoer will not wipe a lord room if he doesn`t have healers keeping him alive.