casters vs assassins (discussion)

Dorin

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intercepting ml9 SM pet foookin ROX ASSASINS the little leeching fuxor m8s

keke xD
 

Chronictank

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so you cant mez poison then lay a dot mine to kill all the brittle pets?
 

Downanael

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This sounds too much for "Waa i cant kill casters anymore,giv more love" posts
 

Pipppi

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as much as i dont like jimmi, i gotto agree with him. its pretty boring that casters have gotten so many antimelee things its almost impossible to kill them for a solo meleer.
stuff like, lifetap, sm pet, cabby pet, any ml9 pet ofc is just /cry for meleers.


...wants his warrior back :<
 

Jimmi

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Lethul said:
to bad u didnt land that dragonfang on him! :p

you always press the DF button before garrote/achilles heel :) Ofc not nessecary (sp?) vs casters, but its a habbit.
 

Crimson LoneWolf

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jimmy, if you hit him with a dot mine, he should have lost all his brittle guards. unless he was moving about places where the brittles have a "hard" time figuring out what route to take and were a few paces behind the caster.
 

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you're pathetic small brain wouldn't understand so why should I bother.
 

Phule_Gubben

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Aussie said:
you're pathetic small brain wouldn't understand so why should I bother.

Just as i suspected, you can't. Instead you try to say something smart but failed miserably.

Sm's can't charm lvl 45+ mobs but Sorcs can. Sorcs have boltrange mess and Sm's don't so your point is?
 

-Freezingwiz-

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Phule_Gubben said:
Just as i suspected, you can't. Instead you try to say something smart but failed miserably.

Sm's can't charm lvl 45+ mobs but Sorcs can. Sorcs have boltrange mess and Sm's don't so your point is?

when a SM pet intercept it is like no one attacked them ie, no interupt, that + life drain = killer for melee classes


And Jimmy I found this pic for u :) SM pet intercepting my NS's PA on camlan ^^
(uber level 35 NS vs yellow con SM :p )

intercepting PA is kinda lame for a pet u always can have up CD is ok but PA, u attack from stealth the pet have no chance to see u before u attack him ^^ and as u see I just hit BT with CD.... that kinda suxx

SM%20pet.JPG
 

censi

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it is unbalanced. Theres certain classes (mage/pet based mostly) that are "unkillable" as an assasin(or archer). Thats why I hunt with friends.

pet classes were always ridiculously tough targets, but with that ml9 thing its just hopeless.
 

Aussie

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Phule_Gubben said:
Just as i suspected, you can't. Instead you try to say something smart but failed miserably.

Sm's can't charm lvl 45+ mobs but Sorcs can. Sorcs have boltrange mess and Sm's don't so your point is?
sucks to be clueless isn't it
 

Phule_Gubben

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censi said:
it is unbalanced. Theres certain classes (mage/pet based mostly) that are "unkillable" as an assasin(or archer). Thats why I hunt with friends.

pet classes were always ridiculously tough targets, but with that ml9 thing its just hopeless.

does it happen 100% of the times you attack a petclass, that you die? I doubt it, if it happens then i guess you suck at playing your own class.

Aussie: you still didn't reply to my question so I still don't see your point.
 

censi

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depends on the player. If they are like unbuffed newbies then sure, but im talking about people who are buffed middle tier RR and know what they are doing.
 

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Have to agree, I read a thread on another forum recently going along the same lines, casters nowadays are becoming harder and harder to kill, I suppose this it to 'balance the game' and enable a solo caster to survive in RvR, but nowadays its gone too far and casters are, as jimmi said, less desirable targets than heavy tanks in alot of cases.

As an archer I find that alot of caster targets nowadays have to be left alone, if they have more than one brittle guard up it is very usually too risky for me, if its a BD or SM I rarely bother.

I cant say how it looks from an assassins point of view, but for me I look at how many shots I need to fire to drop a target. say 2 shots for brittle guards, one for BT and then another 2 to actually do the damage, thats 5 shots, 7.5 seconds if i have capped draw time.

7.5 seconds where all the caster needs to do is hit /face, QC and mezz or root or someother CC spell, once i'm CC'd, even if i purge, I still need to draw another arrow to interrupt, and if the caster is fast enough and has a damage spell queued up after the QC'd CC, I'm very usually dead.

All of this without taking into consideration SM pet intercepts, or BD pet heals, or misses or fumbles. Let alone MoC or other RA's.
 

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you can shoot the brittle guards and not get any aggro though and mage wont get target. just rapid fire them off and RF the caster once to drop his GT. Then he is primed for killing after a quick restealth. Its risky business though if he gets pet lock or you shoot and his BT was already down you have to go banzai.

but you are lucky duckat because you dont have to contend with sorcs. they are just fooked.
 

Phule_Gubben

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sorc and caba with pets have to be the 2 worst classes to meet as a ranger/hunter but then again most petclasses isn't a desirable target nowadays.
 

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Dukat said:
Have to agree, I read a thread on another forum recently going along the same lines, casters nowadays are becoming harder and harder to kill, I suppose this it to 'balance the game' and enable a solo caster to survive in RvR, but nowadays its gone too far and casters are, as jimmi said, less desirable targets than heavy tanks in alot of cases.

As an archer I find that alot of caster targets nowadays have to be left alone, if they have more than one brittle guard up it is very usually too risky for me, if its a BD or SM I rarely bother.

I cant say how it looks from an assassins point of view, but for me I look at how many shots I need to fire to drop a target. say 2 shots for brittle guards, one for BT and then another 2 to actually do the damage, thats 5 shots, 7.5 seconds if i have capped draw time.

7.5 seconds where all the caster needs to do is hit /face, QC and mezz or root or someother CC spell, once i'm CC'd, even if i purge, I still need to draw another arrow to interrupt, and if the caster is fast enough and has a damage spell queued up after the QC'd CC, I'm very usually dead.

All of this without taking into consideration SM pet intercepts, or BD pet heals, or misses or fumbles. Let alone MoC or other RA's.

take into account an archer can shoot from outside face range and what you just said has practicaly no worth. All it comes down to is the fact you have stealth, therefore you can pick and choose to a greater extent than any visible class the opponents you will/won't attack, the only option a visible class has is to speedwarp and run or retreat to the bugged boats ;)
 

Kelio

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well common sense

Casters>stealthers
Casters>tanks
Tanks>stealthers
Stealthers>mobs :eek7:
 

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censi said:
it is unbalanced. Theres certain classes (mage/pet based mostly) that are "unkillable" as an assasin(or archer). Thats why I hunt with friends.

pet classes were always ridiculously tough targets, but with that ml9 thing its just hopeless.

You haveno idea of how many ns/infil wimps who keeps running through you, so you cant do the fantastic lifetap :D Anyway, i pretty much kill most stealthers if their purgeisnt up, unless i get killed in just afew hits. (pet intercept or not) Scouts though, is the easiest thing in the world if they start shooting from not their longest range... In fact, a scout that melee' you is alot harder to kill than one who shoots, as you just have to cast a couple of lifetaps to kill him.
 

Runolas

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Pet classes is overpowerd in 1 vs 1 with a large margin. This very true for those that tool up their toon for going assassin/archer hunting. With the current RvR situation there are quite a few of them out there. Best solution is simply to stay off them and w8 to they go away or die to a fg. Ofc is suxor not to attack, but atm one need to stay away from the most obviouse deathtraps.
 

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