casters vs assassins (discussion)

[Jimmi]

The following set of pictures is not meant to be a whine. It is just a documentation of the "Assassin vs Caster" situation we've seen, after TOA and NF.

I am a 5L7 ML10 Infiltrator, fully sc'ed, buffed etc ofc Have a look at the pictures below. I lined up for a perfect PA chain, was using str/con debuff on main hand and ML9 aoe mez poison on offhand (which mezzed both caster and pet). Also my poisonspike was triggered by the caster. - what do you think of the caster vs assassin situation?

I remember back in the days (before I even played on the EU servers) where a caster's (cloth wearer's) worst nightmare was a assassin. Why? Because assassins were designed to be able to take out weak / soft targets with their Critical Strikes line. Now its the total opposite. My worst nightmare is a caster. And the easiest targets (if you can call em easy) are heavy tanks, simply because they dont have ML9 pets, they dont have lifetaps, they dont have brittle guards, MOC, 1000 different sorts of mezzes, roots, dots, and sh*t like that.

Use this thread to DISCUSS, not FLAME or TROLL the current CASTER vs ASSASSIN situation. Personally I am getting very tired of this :/

 

[Jimmi]

 

[Jimmi]

/discuss

 

[Vodkafairy]

everyone already knows sm pets are retarded

 

[Aussie]

so you figured out only 2 images are allowed per post, so you posted 2 replies. to show the full fight. making 1 big picture sure was no option

 

[Helme]

Just as much fun as SoI+ML9 is for midstealthers I guess

Else, casters finally being able to fight back against what was free RP's before surerly isn't a bad thing? on the record thought the SM pet needs to be adjusted. And anyways, you can't say that all casters gets this chance, take wizards and runemasters for example they got 1 way to escape and that way is usally purged

 

[Eregion]

<3 plaid

 

[Plaid]

sorry

 

[Jimmi]

so you figured out only 2 images are allowed per post, so you posted 2 replies. to show the full fight. making 1 big picture sure was no option

so you figured you'd come and troll again to get your + postcount and your epenis enlarged?

 

[Arkian]

One question jimmi, why did you decide to attack an SM (knowing they have an intercepting pet and could be ML9) with brittle guards up? or could you not see them?

p.s. not having a go, just curious.

 

[Jimmi]

One question jimmi, why did you decide to attack an SM (knowing they have an intercepting pet and could be ML9) with brittle guards up? or could you not see them?

I thought mez poison would atleast help, as well as the DOT mine ticking for 100-150 x 5... lifebane as well... str/con debuff... you name it...

 

[Helme]

One question jimmi, why did you decide to attack an SM (knowing they have an intercepting pet and could be ML9) with brittle guards up? or could you not see them?

p.s. not having a go, just curious.

He was expecting it to fall over and give him RP's just as the "good ol' times"

 

[Jimmi]

He was expecting it to fall over and give him RP's just as the "good ol' times"

Let's stay on topic please.

 

[Helme]

Let's stay on topic please.

It is on topic, as it is what casters used to be and can be seen as an comparison to what they are now. More equally balanced, you win your share of assasin fights you loose some. Not like before when every caster just died.

 

[Arkian]

Helme does have a point to be honest, in the past if you got jumped by an assasin you were pretty much guarenteed to die. Now you can win, and so can the assasin if he choses the right time to strike (e.g. no brittle guards up etc), at least the assasin usually has the choice.

On the other hand it must be a pain when you get 'popped' and have an ml9 pet on your ass and a caster who can moc.

 

[Kalba]

It is on topic, as it is what casters used to be and can be seen as an comparison to what they are now. More equally balanced, you win your share of assasin fights you loose some. Not like before when every caster just died.

Helme, you do know what the assasin class is supposed to do to casters right?

The idea was that once an assasin does his critical strike moves he gets a huge advantage, it's the fucking idea of the class!

Now that PA is pretty much useless with brittle guards goin around it's no wonder that assasins are getting pissed since the target's that are supposed to be for them arent killable.

a RM with a brittle guard or two would prolly beat this guy aswell tho

 

[Helme]

Yes I do know that, the armsmans describtion tells that they are the true masters of weapons in Albion aswell

 

[Nalistah]

Thats why DAoC sucks so hard now. There is no logic to it at all. Be glad that u dont' face sorcs, it's a big fucking joke. Thank God for WoW. Mythic have totally fucked up, and they will notice that when they see that only 10% of the original players pay their subs.

I hope Mythic burn in hell.

They had the best mmorpg out there... still they had to totally fuck it up, destroying it totally.

Great work Mythic, I hope you enjoy your sub-payers now (the very few of them that are left)

I hope you make some drastic changes to it overall, so that an average player can play it, and enjoy it at the same time.

 

[AmeinoN]

everytime i find a sm while solo-ing the pet dies first ;(

/edit well as an assasin you better avoid to jump sms even w/o britthe guards.

 

[Gotmagi]

Stealthers with purge have no problem at all smacking down rm's, even if the rm has brittle guard and uses the great 10% evade.
Any random sm can pwn a stealther badly tho.

Nerf sm pets

 

[Tulkos]

everyone already knows sm pets are retarded

yep

And i mean that from my merc point of view well and the inf i have

 

[GrIrcSpammer]

sm pet is retarded and i can answer to ur question about the reason for him attacking... For the same reasoon i attack a retarded sorc with ml9 buffed pet 3 bts and moc-soi xD. cuz i hate the fucking class and there is no way i m ever letting him get away. tho its sad that i actually lose 9 in 10 times :E

 

[Watchh]

i don't see the problem, killed most sm's in duel with my sb :kissit: even kesa .. guess ae mezz poison > radar !!!1

 

[Leel]

Brittle guards can't be mezed anyways. One thing you can do is to use flaming spear charge from golden spear to kill brittle guards and vanish, then get sm 30 secs after. You can win vs an sm, but you your chances are much slimmer when he's got two brittle guards up. You jumped him when the odds were as favourable to him as they could be, and you wonder why you lost?

 

[Kais]

ik hou van je plaid !

 

[koun]

Brittle guards can't be mezed anyways. One thing you can do is to use flaming spear charge from golden spear to kill brittle guards and vanish, then get sm 30 secs after. You can win vs an sm, but you your chances are much slimmer when he's got two brittle guards up. You jumped him when the odds were as favourable to him as they could be, and you wonder why you lost?

and the sm will be waiting just for you to PA him or something

essence flare > bd, pets just sit and watch
essence flare < sm, pet steps in front and takes the blow

jump on sm pet with essence flare hoping sm's purge is down or.....



took 2 SMs down just with 2 poison spikes and javelins once (no brittle guards - no PAs)... do I get something? :worthy:

 

[Haldar]

if an Infi whines about his perfomance....then assasins are really screwed.

but there's nothing new here.

 

[Technodave]

I will hardly ever try and take on a SM there pets suck,but what gets me is why ppl moan about no fg vs fg fights ,when they all roam around bled bridge or beno bridge lookin for stealther v stealther fights to leech/add.
What great skills :touch:

 

[lofff]

^
as caster, i alrdy assume nearly everyfight i have to deal with 1-4 stealther adds on me depending on where we fight, some are actually cool and break mezz or vanish inside pb.. just rp bonuses, but some will simply trash the fight. I am so NOT gonna let them alone when i spot em fighting..


on topic:

attack a rr7 90% lifetap caster with britle up and ml9 intercept pet > get owned > cry = smart

britles should b penetrated by same blows that penetrate BT, agreed, but even if he had no brits up u had gotten owned neway.. not all casters get lifetap u c (well most of the active alb and mid ones but anis are quite rare xd - doesnt mean u have to pick on luris tho 8< )
and if that is fustrating imagine how it feels for a 2hand puretank whacking alone on a sm cause his bm buddie just dropped

 

[mightybunny]

dont whine runemasters get owned in 1v1 most of the time.
And kill brittlegaurds first caster gets a message he loses control of his brittle but not that it was by a stealther or so.