BW servers are anally configured

[old.BruZteR]

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
After readig all of the thread. 1 question, is anybody actually allowed to play tribes 2, if you haven't played tribes 1?

Don't you people fucking realise that your game, and major servers will die if the game doesn't get mass apeal that both dynamix and sierra, and indeed barrysworld, netgames ect.. are hoping for.

And in reply to this, I really do need to ask if you have any fucking clue. If it's an honest question then yeah, I might have some notion about not flaming you. I do, however, get the impression that you're being a cheeky c**t. If there's people coming into this community we meet them on IRC, and I can honestly say that not one newbie has shown to be a prick so far. This game will not die, this game was bought more than several Quake's in a compared timescale, so in answer to your question: yes, you are allowed to play T2 if you've not played T1. Secondly I have to say that us people want some semblance of a decent game thats not going to turn into something completely different from the original game. If you want to go frag each other play Quake or UT, or if you want a different game go play CS or something. This is Tribes. Noticed yet?

 

[old.Shaz_af_Tribes2]

I'd like it to go down in the book that I wasn't flaming Barrysworld, read my thread again and you'll see it's well mannered

I was just asking for at least one TD on server.

[Edited by Shaz_af_Tribes2 on 15-04-01 at 20:05]

 

[Guest]

The prams comment was in reference to this thread. If you read way up you will see that I said I have no problem playing either setting. However after stating an opinion on a community forum, and being roundly attacked, this does strike me as a 'toys exit pram' situation.

As for helping newbies, more are going to be entering BW servers through the game browser than your IRC channel. All I have seen on the servers since Wednesday is abuse and kick-voting and 'damn newbies'.

I suppose though if I joined #bwtl now I would be banned for being an unbeliever?

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

'My point'


Yeah but the word public means, for all players i spose or do you not understand that


I understand teamplay myself,(3 years of ctf) (nearly 2 TFC) but in truth putting down on people that don't is like i say pretty sad as your talking about public servers. Just save it for the clan wars, EVERYBODY has a right to play the game as they wish, you have yours, others have there's. I suggest you kinda like leave it at that. Because that is the bottom line in all truth, if you choose to accept that or not, you can't realy argue with it

One last quote "
in answer to your question: yes, you are allowed to play T2 if you've not played T1"

Just look at the thread and most stuff thats been posted

 

[old.Ego]

LOL @ speccy

Toys from a pram eh? Well ALL my toys are expensive and mostly imported so i can play them long before all the skavvy council peasants that wait for EB, game or PCworld to bother stocking them!

 

[old.BruZteR]

ok then

No speccy you wouldn't be banned for being an unbeliever, I judt think the prams thing was completely rubbish. And Kurt...everyone who played tribes settled on the one way of doing things, you saying that everyone was wrong? If they decided to take away weapons in TFC because the newbies didn't like being shot, woudl you agree with that becasue...everyone has a view, don't they! what you're saying is totally unreasonable. Play it like it was meant to be played. Some people might get the impression that we're a bunch of up-tight, serious minks after this thred. The only singular thing that pisses us off is newbies who think they know better. We're normally fairly nice and decent human beings. See what you ppl do to us?

Also I'm not going to edit the main body of text, I did just want to point out that I am aware of how bad my spelling is

[Edited by BruZteR on 15-04-01 at 20:23]

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Re: no.

Originally posted by BruZteR
it doesn't work like that, public games are there to be play for fun but under the same conditions as a league game

Are you for real

Christ iv'e played for clans at both the top and bottom of the leagues, q2/cs/tfc/ ukccl/savage ect... and iv'e never come across a game like that yet I realy can't belive you posted that

 

[old.BruZteR]

OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED TRIBES THEN!!!

Oops, posted tha in wrong bit, and backspace too far away...tab and return it is.

 

[old.UncleCuba]

why is is so hard for u to absorb the fact that tribes ain't like quake or hl, and that yes unlike them public servers are still played like a league game only diff being, u dont have such good team work , but we all still practise our same posistions and work together even if everyplay is from a diffrent team,

If we want to piss about we join quiet servers or private ones , not ruin games for those who are there to enjoy the team play.

cos its the team play that makes tribes!

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Re: ok then

Originally posted by BruZteR
everyone who played tribes settled on the one way of doing things, you saying that everyone was wrong?

everybody? i think not, as this thread wouldn't be here if...

Originally posted by BruZteR


Some people might get the impression that we're a bunch of up-tight, serious minks after this thred. The only singular thing that pisses us off is newbies who think they know better. We're normally fairly nice and decent human beings. See what you ppl do to us.

Realy, looking at this thread, both the starter and many others


Btw im no newbie, just i don't like people who know certain things, putting down on people that don't

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Arrrrrr pointless, you don't get the word 'public'

this is over, i will carry on playing the game the way i want, im sure many others will do the same

If you don't like it then Tough, soooooooooooooooooory for the 13 year old teenager reply but after an hour of trying to get you lot to understand the meaning of the word public iv'e lost my head Realy i mean that arrrrrrsahndoahsodhasidiashdsjdlixdbhvisdiufsfbbsd;vb;isdbvbsidfbsfblsdb;fhsdhf;sdbfb;sdf;bsd;fbbsdfsdf

 

[old.BruZteR]

The problem there is: we set up lots of websites telling them what was what, and, thank god, dynamix even included a proper manual this time! w00p! it's there. sitting in front of them, and yet them seem to be able to a) read the f*in' manual b) read a website telling them all about it, taking them 2 minutes, and the one that pisses me off most c) not being able to EITHER hear or read the perfectly audible warning in game for their benefit. i.e. "our flag is mined" it's even an automatic occurence this time round.

 

[old.BruZteR]

we get the meaning of public, the only thing YOU'RE not getting at all is that we have a decent definition of public. I shall give u an extract from our dictionary:
Public Game (Pub-bee): A game where you do exactly what you do in a league game, except you're not playing with the regular arranged group, and you get people not knowing that running over mines kill them. same level of serious competition as in league (none). stress levels higher because no-one seems to know what they're doing. makes it more fun. not lame like quake or anything where public games differ so hugely from private ones.

getting the point yet?
in tribes league games ARE public games, just with people who are silly enough to sometimes shout over roger-wilco "haha u died. oh by the way someoen coming in from the left".

nada. we get your point perfectly, you're just wrong.

 

[old.sjp]

WOW

what a bunch ot twats .................

i was thinking of getting t2, but after reading some of these posts i dont think ill bother.

the games been officially on sale for 2 days, is a long bank holliday weekend and yet you are all jumping up and down like all the servers had crashed and you cant play .......

Think ill stick to Q3

 

[old.Crunchy]

What just because of a few comments you'll not play a game? It's not like there isn't flame wars in Quake 3 or something?

 

[old.Rezonator]

Quake3 is a pile of shit, feel free to keep playing it and keep T2 llama free

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

All you seem to want is everybody to play the game YOUR fucking way, to that i say No fucking way



Got it yet, what you gona do beat people with sticks if they don't?????????????????

why don't you go fucking live in china, or some shit. Since you want people to do exactly the same things over and over Man you realy are off this planet, if EVER expect all people all of the time to play the prefect game on publics. i used to train 4 nights a week to do that over 8 dm maps never mind the massive scope of tribes 2

PS why not fuk off to netgames, team damage ect.... iv'e seen non of the things your talking about over the 7 hours iv'e been playing on there servers today. It was more of a mele, and a frag hunt Surley not i hear you cry

 

[old.Sly2k]

Well for the good of the newbies TD should be on. They have to learn one way or the other that you cant do daft things. They will become better players for it and eventually become "Team players".

Hell, TD on did no harm to us Tribes Vets (well most of us )

oh, Kurt_Angle , d00d chill. Its a game . dont get so worked up about it. Go have a b33r

T1
[CL]Sly
[CL]Siven
[CL]Sly2k
Evolution is the way of life.
T2
[CL]*??*

 

[old.R3]

Mental

 

[SAS]

Comments like: "Newbies play on TD on server they do one of two things...die.....or get better...well if they die a lot through stupidity then they deserve it..." really pisses me off :|

You where all newbies once, and although a newbie might screw up it's not there fault half the time. To learn you need information and just because you know all about the game and the newbie has limited info does not make it right for players to swear, abuse and genearlly tell newbies to piss off.

How about helping one out for a change? Yesterday I made a comment about newbies on bombers, and said they should really grab a shirke and practice first. A t2 newbie in #barrysworld said that was a good idea...

It's all about educating the newbies and like it or not there are lots of them out there and more to come. How about cutting them some slack for once?

 

[Guest]

From Grilla :

Oh and BTW what has happened to the Tribes 2 liason people ? Not seen either in #bwtl or elsewhere all weekend.

Grilla - As Crunchy repsonded earlier I have been offline for 8 days (bar one day mid week) due to probs with my cable connect. Just got it back up today thanks to a fat cable engineer working on Bank Holiday Monday .

Also - even if my connect HAD been working - I spent Easter weekend visiting my kids..hope thats ok?

As for TD on/off/whatever and servers - /me is config llama, I'm aiming to help the community side and as Deathace etc have already posted...

as for pubbies being like LEAGUE servers...cough WTF lol.
Give BW some time to get private/booked servers up for proper pracs etc.

Anyway I am going to test my connect some more...cya in a server, sorry I have been away etc etc.

Regards

Xtro

Barrysworld T2 Community Liasion and BWTL admin

 

[Jace]

As an Ex-BW employee I know the effort that goes in behind the scenes to try and keep as many people happy as possible and all I can say is that you don't deserve ANY Tribes 2 servers.

I've never seen such an utterly piss poor attitude from the community of ANY game, and yes this includes Counter-Strike! Keep up your intollerance and watch the game die, it's what you deserve.

 

[Meatballs]

I was playing on the megagame server the other day (which has default vote settings and stuff), piloting a gunship, it was full of people, and I was taking off wiv the thrusters, when someone jumped on top and he got killed by the teamdamage. Not my fault. I then get a vote to be banned? This was my first incidence - I had only been on the server max 3 mins. All the clever tribes2 players, who are so fucking perfect at voting people and can all be responsible to do it, vote yes? 'Your connection to server has been lost'

This is tribes 2, not tribes 1, so that makes all of you newbies obviously, you may be good but with only 1-3 days of playing I think your still in that category... Oh apart from that lame sod who thinks he's better than everyone cos he got it imported (how many other people got it imported? not a lot). There may be a whole new crowd for tribes2, all the newbies may turn into regular players, if all these new players (and if there is a much larger quantity of them than from tribes1) decide they dont like teamdamage after a couple of weeks of playing, why should it be enabled? They would be the majority. As of this moment I think they are the majority, however most of the newbie players havn't found their way to the forums so dont have a voice.

Just because your community decided how it liked to play tribes1, there may be a new community for tribes2 who decide how they like to play it. Shit happens - change happens - deal with it.

And whats this rubbish about having a proper manual this time? It doesn't cover half the stuff a newbie needs to know - Where does it say theres a limit to the number of turrets they can place? So how are they suppose to know that putting them on some hillside doesn't help. How are they suppose to know that they blow up their own teams mines?

[Edited by Meatballs on 16-04-01 at 14:48]

 

[old.UncleCuba]

Im sorry but u BW moderators obviously have no idea wot we have to put up with!


we have Q3 LLamas playing death match on Bounty servers , even after we explain the rules nicely, they still carryon killing eveyone regardless,

And they find it highly amusing to pack bomb inv rooms full of people!, his excuse " im practising so fuck u"


Why should we have to put up with this they wouldnt on their servers all we ask for is a newbie server, were they can go practise, like in most other games.

cuba

 

[old.Ewan]

Hmm, thats nice Jace, a grand total of about 15 people post in a thread, most of whom are actually pro-newbies, and you decide that we don't deserver any servers.

Breaking news, this isn't anywhere near the total community of tribes1 let alone 2, and for you to tar us all with that brush is quite disappointing to say the least.

Ewan

 

[old.{ velvet }]

Its not the case of hating newbies. Its a case of wanting them to learn to play the game properly. The only difference is Tribes 2 takes a bit more learning than other games.

[*]What can a newbie do wrong in Q3? Very little.
[*]What can a newbie do wrong in CS? Team kill (although I don't even think they can do that on BW servers).
[*]What can a newbie do wrong in Tribes2? Team kill, place turrets in dumb places, steal/crash vehicles, jump on mines, stand in inventorys, etc etc.

Yes Tribes 2 is harder to learn because of all these things, but to say that the whole game should be newbified, and people who understand how to play it should play a modded version where all the things above don't apply is ridiculous.

Dynamix have written this game with an intention of how it should be played, and all that the people posting here want is to play it in that manner. Turning team damage off might be fine for Counter-Strike, as it stops the majority of lameness. But for Tribes 2 team damage is a far more important part of the game. It encourages people to defend properly and not spam, it allows the team to reposition misplaced turrets etc etc.

I doubt you'll find many ex-Tribes players who don't want newbies in this game. Myself and many others have been waiting for Tribes 2 since leaving Tribes 18 months ago. I certainly don't want to discourage people from playing, but it does get frustrating playing on a server with no teamwork, and little chance for new players to learn as they're not playing the correct game to learn what to do. How many people joined this weekend and thought mortaring their own base was okay cause it didn't do any damage?

As for being kicked, don't blame Tribes players for that. I've been banned twice from BW servers this weekend, not for team killing or being lame, but either for being good or simply because some newbie wanted to see how to vote, and everyone else just voted yes cause they don't know what things do.

We do need to give new players time to get into the game, but I think all people here are asking is that the public servers reflect how the game is supposed to be played. At least then we can start to help new players, rather than them learning a completely different game.

And for those of you who believe the above is crap, well come play on my Q3 server that doesn't have a rocket launcher, cause newbies can't rocket jump. And come play on my CS server that only has sniper rifles, cause after all newbies only like to snipe..

[BR]velvet

 

[Jace]

Ewan - apologies m8, I should have been clearer in that I was directing my annoyance at those with the attitude.

I don't mean to tar you all with the same brush but as a Tribes 2 newbie who has experienced abuse from the "Tribes Community" for making honest mistakes I was annoyed.

 

[Meatballs]

"As for being kicked, don't blame Tribes players for that. I've been banned twice from BW servers this weekend, not for team killing or being lame, but either for being good or simply because some newbie wanted to see how to vote, and everyone else just voted yes cause they don't know what things do."

Erm, thats exactly what your meant to blame people for
and it wasn't a kick ffs it was a ban. How are tribes players meant to stop the tking by voting etc if they dont know how to vote properly was the point.

 

[Meatballs]

a nice FF off 'Newblood' server as the manual puts it would be good tho innit

 

[SAS]

Sod it this game needs a guide :|

I'll use the tribes1 guide as a platform and make sure I cover everything for tribes2. Been busy atm, but throwing everything else aside to start the guide tuesday / wednesday (was going to say tuesday, but remembered I have 4 days of support mails to sort out on that day ).

If I can do a decent guide and get it noticed, a newbie should have no problem. If he gets shouted at for placing turrets in the wrong place he can go to the guide and head to the turrets page which will show what he was doing wrong and give him some tips, and so on...

Education is what the newbies need and atm unless they know fellow t2 players (meatballs has been asking me questions left right and centre ), it's hard for them to pick up things.

If Sierra did a decent manual in the first place then maybe all this newbie bashing would not be as bad as it is atm?