BUNNEYHING!!

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old.feigned innocence

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My 2p on the Subject.

TFC is a class based game where the game balance is derived from the in-built Character Weapons + Abilities. Class speed is clearly one of the key differntiating Abilities by class, as it's used to balance the hwguys massive kill-power against the scout's piddly kill-power.

On top of these classes with their inherent weapons / abilities, we add whatever skill we have acquired through playing the game. Key word here is ADD. Getting better at aiming / evasive tactics /dm'ing are skills. Bhopping however doesn't add, it CHANGES the core Ability balance between the classes by allowing even slow classes to move aroud the map much faster, killing the whole class balance effect in one fell swoop. That's why I think it's wrong, because it very clearly unbalances the game totally. That's why in Clan matches no-one I've ever played for or against uses it (don't play bwtfcl adn if it's prevalanet here, I simply won't bother). I too have been chased and caught up on a pubby server while concing out of the enemy base with teh falg by a bhopping hwguy. It's not funny. What it means is that person hasn't had to try and think within the skills of his class at how best to deploy himself to best defensive impact, because with bhopping he can catch anyone.

Technically it's a bug expoloit, rather than a script cheat. That valve have said it's against the spirit of the class based game they created + that they will tune it down in a patch ASAP (can't switch it off unless they re-write major parts of engine physics which they'd be mad to do for a game with no future revenue income for them !) should be enough for it to be banned for match use imho.



My 1/2p to Kez
I think you should be lauded for reminding us how to notice when someone has ended discussing something and is just picking a fight. That you repeatedly post personally-aimed offensive messages in a forum for a game that you don't play shows real diligence in winding people up. You're doing a good job. I'm not suggesting you go off to post anywhere else, but that everyone here takes your posts at face value for what they are and replies only to the valid points you make relevant to the Thread.
No replies.
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Meatballs

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well they are removing it in 1.3 so they consider it bad, and I dont really think we need to clamp down on it cos most of the time you dont see any bhing, just hold your horses for 1.3 :\
 
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-AP-

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Old question i expect. But when is 1.3 out?
I never could bunnyhop, doesn't really do much in CS i don't think. Just makes it more fun killing people. Can't speak for tfc.... never played it.
 
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]SK[

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TFC is damn full of em. A very slow HWGUY can run as fast as a scout can normally. Kinda makes the game less enjoyable.
 
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Moön

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Yes TFC is badly affected by it and the 1337 online g33k's will defend it to the last maybe because its the only way they have some affect in a clan match by finding an exploit in a game and using it to its fullest affect .

When sentry guns can't track a hwg fast enough to even get a shot off the games fuked in imo
 
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Moön

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I don't use any scripts, I don't use any exploits and I curtainly don't bunny hop .

I consider rocket jump and concusion jump constructive use of weapons of the game

I use only any skill I have or reactions etc to play and I get a good feeling if I've played well .

Its a shame people think they need to bunny hop to win any matches and as if winning is every thing .
 
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old.Kurt_Angle

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Originally posted by feigned innocence


it's against the spirit of the class based game



My point exactly, there's nothing more to it.
 
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old.Kamen

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Personally, I can't BunnyHopp, and I can't be arse learnin Either. The way I see it each to their own, but the classes in the game were designed with indivdual characteristics, and I find that BunnyHoppin just detracts from the game play. Granted there is skill involved in learnin to BH, but what after ???, I cant see why people feel the need to gain this kinda advantage.. How the hell do u get some kinda kick outta the game jumpin around like ur on springs ???, I dont mind em, just I would ask em to stop and play the game as it should be played..

ps. (Why don't we have th BunnyHopppin Olympics ??)
 
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]SK[

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This page has demos of one of the UK's best clans (My frav tbh). The bottom demo shows how fast a scout can run when carrying a flag on CZ2. If you play tfc then you know that on his map whilst holding a map it slows you down and a scout will walk as slow as a Hwguy when hes running. The demo is to show different ways a scout can conc his way though the map.

If you get chance look at their win history and some of the other demos. You will see how skillful these guys are!

http://www.babeloueb.com/lifeless/demos.php
 

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